Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 21:07     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:

The problems that they will fix are the problems that come from having inadequate standards or no standards.


Where is it documented that this has been a problem?



If there were no standards in education, what would education be like? Anybody can teach whatever they feel like, and whatever the students learn or don't learn is fine?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 21:05     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Standards-or lack of standards --is not the problem. Common Core is just making it worse.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 21:05     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:

It makes as much sense as the idea that because publishing companies will make money off the Common Core, the Common Core standards must be bad.


Well, it does beg the question of how they were written and who wrote them. This leads to question their value.



And the opposition by Koch Industries and the Heartland Institute leads one to wonder what Koch Industries and the Heartland Institute think they are gaining by opposing them.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 21:04     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, how is Common Core going to help?


How will Common Core hurt?

The Common Core standards are not going to fix every problem in education, and nobody should expect them to. The problems that they will fix are the problems that come from having inadequate standards or no standards.


If the standards aren't implemented properly, they can hurt plenty. Why on earth can't you see that standards are just words on papers unless they are implemented and you can prove results?


The first step towards implementing standards and demonstrating results is having standards.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:38     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

It makes as much sense as the idea that because publishing companies will make money off the Common Core, the Common Core standards must be bad.


Well, it does beg the question of how they were written and who wrote them. This leads to question their value.




Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:37     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

The problems that they will fix are the problems that come from having inadequate standards or no standards.


Where is it documented that this has been a problem?

Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:35     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, how is Common Core going to help?


How will Common Core hurt?

The Common Core standards are not going to fix every problem in education, and nobody should expect them to. The problems that they will fix are the problems that come from having inadequate standards or no standards.


If the standards aren't implemented properly, they can hurt plenty. Why on earth can't you see that standards are just words on papers unless they are implemented and you can prove results?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:21     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:So you think because conservative groups oppose Common Core, that the Common Core standards must be good? That's great independent thinking.


It makes as much sense as the idea that because publishing companies will make money off the Common Core, the Common Core standards must be bad.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:14     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
So you think because conservative groups oppose Common Core, that the Common Core standards must be good? That's great independent thinking.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:09     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples

Do you think that Koch Industries, the Heartland Institute, etc. are opposing the Common Core standards out of the purity of their souls?


I have no clue what you are talking about. Perhaps, they recognize what a failure they are.




Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:08     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Then, by your own logic, bringing up the article talking about corporate linkages to Common Core is a red herring.


Hardly. The connection there is that the publishing companies profit from this. Do not understand how the people you cited profit.



Do you think that Koch Industries, the Heartland Institute, etc. are opposing the Common Core standards out of the purity of their souls?


Lots of people on the left hate the standards too -- like me.


But that doesn't answer the question.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:08     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't bother you that standards were not written by true experts?


I think that the "true experts" thing is a red herring (since the PP brought them up).
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:08     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Then, by your own logic, bringing up the article talking about corporate linkages to Common Core is a red herring.


Hardly. The connection there is that the publishing companies profit from this. Do not understand how the people you cited profit.



Do you think that Koch Industries, the Heartland Institute, etc. are opposing the Common Core standards out of the purity of their souls?


Lots of people on the left hate the standards too -- like me.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:07     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
Anonymous wrote:

Then, by your own logic, bringing up the article talking about corporate linkages to Common Core is a red herring.


Hardly. The connection there is that the publishing companies profit from this. Do not understand how the people you cited profit.



Do you think that Koch Industries, the Heartland Institute, etc. are opposing the Common Core standards out of the purity of their souls?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 20:05     Subject: Re:How Common Core is wrecking kindergartner -- with SPECIFIC examples
It doesn't bother you that standards were not written by true experts?