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If you believe in God (in the Creator sense), I can't see how you're polytheistic. Only because those who believe in God (the Creator) follow the "worship no other gods" commandment. How does that vibe with your belief in goddesses, etc?

I'm not beholden to the Christian commandments because I am not a Christian.

Different PP here. That's fair enough. I think the question is, are you

1. monotheistic, in terms of the God and goddess being different aspects of one universal, godly power,

Or

2. polytheistic, because the Wiccan God and goddess are seperate beings. If that's the case, what are their different attributes? I imagine a Zeus/Hera analogy is completely wrong. In what attributes do these gods differ?

That's a really gray area and a tough semantic question to answer. I believe in one higher power that has two faces, so take that as you will.

The Goddess is the moon. She represents fertility and her three forms, the Mother, the Maiden, and the Crone, represent the stages of life. She is associated with birth and life.
The God is the sun. He represents masculinity and is associated with nature and death and rebirth.

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If you believe in God (in the Creator sense), I can't see how you're polytheistic. Only because those who believe in God (the Creator) follow the "worship no other gods" commandment. How does that vibe with your belief in goddesses, etc?

I'm not beholden to the Christian commandments because I am not a Christian.

Yes, but this commandment is OT, so not Christian.

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If you believe in God (in the Creator sense), I can't see how you're polytheistic. Only because those who believe in God (the Creator) follow the "worship no other gods" commandment. How does that vibe with your belief in goddesses, etc?

I'm not beholden to the Christian commandments because I am not a Christian.

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If you believe in God (in the Creator sense), I can't see how you're polytheistic. Only because those who believe in God (the Creator) follow the "worship no other gods" commandment. How does that vibe with your belief in goddesses, etc?

I'm not beholden to the Christian commandments because I am not a Christian.

Different PP here. That's fair enough. I think the question is, are you

1. monotheistic, in terms of the God and goddess being different aspects of one universal, godly power,

Or

2. polytheistic, because the Wiccan God and goddess are seperate beings. If that's the case, what are their different attributes? I imagine a Zeus/Hera analogy is completely wrong. In what attributes do these gods differ?

I'm not PP but I think I understand the question (I hope the snark directed at the Chrisrtian is beneath you). PP is asking about the Wiccan gods' traits and powers.

For example, did the Wiccan gods create earth and living beings? Or do the Wiccan gods have a role that is more about bringing about the natural change of seasons, fertility, an abundant harvest, and so on?

Do the Wiccan gods have a role in reincarnation or in determining when someone dies/goes to the underground?

When something bad happens, was it the will of a Wiccan God or a normal event of nature? What is the explanation for a bad harvest - is it that the Wiccan gods don't control the weather? That is, are the Wiccan gods omnipotent?

Do Wiccan gods grant OP's prayers, or determine whether her spells are effective?

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If you believe in God (in the Creator sense), I can't see how you're polytheistic. Only because those who believe in God (the Creator) follow the "worship no other gods" commandment. How does that vibe with your belief in goddesses, etc?

I'm not beholden to the Christian commandments because I am not a Christian.

If you believe in God (in the Creator sense), I can't see how you're polytheistic. Only because those who believe in God (the Creator) follow the "worship no other gods" commandment. How does that vibe with your belief in goddesses, etc?

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Yes, but what "God"? Defined how? Even if most folks don't believe in God (in the Christian form), they acknowledge that version of God is who they don't believe in. I never really get an answer about what God folks believe in if not the Christian God.

Are we talking God, the Creator?

No. Not if you're referring to the Christian God.

I'm not sure there is an answer OP can give that will satisfy you.

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Anonymous wrote:OP,

From what I know (which admittedly is very little), spells are done to result in an action, not simply as a form of prayer. Is this just a movie thing?

You say you believe in God. Are we talking the Christian God?

Are prayers not said with the end goal in mind to chance a specific circumstance? I cast spells for healing, insight, happiness, peace.

I believe in a Goddess and a God, two forms of one cosmic higher power.

Not in the context I mean. For instance, you cast a spell for a guy to fall in love with you. After the spell, the action immediately follows. Same as the insight you "prayed" for on behalf of your friend. I'm Christian and our prayers are not meant in the same "instantaneous" context. In fact, the prayer is more for God's favor and not necessarily that, because we prayed, it will be answered. Spells seem to suggest a "just ask and it shall be" sort of vibe. Maybe I'm wrong?

Again, God in a Christian sense. If not, what "God"? Or perhaps it's god?

Not OP.. but if you look above you will see that she believes in a Goddess and a God. IIRC it's already been stated that it is not the Christian God.

That's correct. I don't believe in the Christian God. I believe in a God that is connected to his female counterpart, the Goddess.

Where does he come from? What has he done? Is he the Creator?

In simplistic terms, I'm polytheistic. God is one part of the Creator, the diving being who created all of Earth's creations. He is the lord of the hunter and the hunted and protects the spirits of the vegetation in nature. He's lord of the light and the sun is used to represent him, but because of the great cosmic balance he is also lord of darkness and shadows.

Anonymous wrote:I think spells send that vibe to people whose only exposure to this sort of thing is what they see in movies or observe theatrical young adults doing. The rituals my Wiccan friends have performed are not dramatically different in intent than the part of a Christian service where people extend prayers to community members who need them for whatever reasons. Think of them as targeted prayers, with ritualistic objects, gestures and words. Such things exist in many religious sects, in my experience.

Anyone who has attended a yoga class has participated in that spiritual ritual, for example. I don't think that many of the OP's workings would be unfamiliar to most religious people in "vibe" and intent, even if the props and words are unfamiliar.

- PP with Pagan rekative, still enjoying thus thread

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Anonymous wrote:OP,

From what I know (which admittedly is very little), spells are done to result in an action, not simply as a form of prayer. Is this just a movie thing?

You say you believe in God. Are we talking the Christian God?

Are prayers not said with the end goal in mind to chance a specific circumstance? I cast spells for healing, insight, happiness, peace.

I believe in a Goddess and a God, two forms of one cosmic higher power.

Not in the context I mean. For instance, you cast a spell for a guy to fall in love with you. After the spell, the action immediately follows. Same as the insight you "prayed" for on behalf of your friend. I'm Christian and our prayers are not meant in the same "instantaneous" context. In fact, the prayer is more for God's favor and not necessarily that, because we prayed, it will be answered. Spells seem to suggest a "just ask and it shall be" sort of vibe. Maybe I'm wrong?

Again, God in a Christian sense. If not, what "God"? Or perhaps it's god?

Not OP.. but if you look above you will see that she believes in a Goddess and a God. IIRC it's already been stated that it is not the Christian God.

That's correct. I don't believe in the Christian God. I believe in a God that is connected to his female counterpart, the Goddess.

Where does he come from? What has he done? Is he the Creator?

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Anonymous wrote:OP,

From what I know (which admittedly is very little), spells are done to result in an action, not simply as a form of prayer. Is this just a movie thing?

You say you believe in God. Are we talking the Christian God?

Are prayers not said with the end goal in mind to chance a specific circumstance? I cast spells for healing, insight, happiness, peace.

I believe in a Goddess and a God, two forms of one cosmic higher power.

Not in the context I mean. For instance, you cast a spell for a guy to fall in love with you. After the spell, the action immediately follows. Same as the insight you "prayed" for on behalf of your friend. I'm Christian and our prayers are not meant in the same "instantaneous" context. In fact, the prayer is more for God's favor and not necessarily that, because we prayed, it will be answered. Spells seem to suggest a "just ask and it shall be" sort of vibe. Maybe I'm wrong?

Again, God in a Christian sense. If not, what "God"? Or perhaps it's god?

Not OP.. but if you look above you will see that she believes in a Goddess and a God. IIRC it's already been stated that it is not the Christian God.

Yes, but what "God"? Defined how? Even if most folks don't believe in God (in the Christian form), they acknowledge that version of God is who they don't believe in. I never really get an answer about what God folks believe in if not the Christian God.

Are we talking God, the Creator?

No. Not if you're referring to the Christian God.

I'm not sure there is an answer OP can give that will satisfy you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

From what I know (which admittedly is very little), spells are done to result in an action, not simply as a form of prayer. Is this just a movie thing?

You say you believe in God. Are we talking the Christian God?

Are prayers not said with the end goal in mind to chance a specific circumstance? I cast spells for healing, insight, happiness, peace.

I believe in a Goddess and a God, two forms of one cosmic higher power.

Not in the context I mean. For instance, you cast a spell for a guy to fall in love with you. After the spell, the action immediately follows. Same as the insight you "prayed" for on behalf of your friend. I'm Christian and our prayers are not meant in the same "instantaneous" context. In fact, the prayer is more for God's favor and not necessarily that, because we prayed, it will be answered. Spells seem to suggest a "just ask and it shall be" sort of vibe. Maybe I'm wrong?

Again, God in a Christian sense. If not, what "God"? Or perhaps it's god?

Not OP.. but if you look above you will see that she believes in a Goddess and a God. IIRC it's already been stated that it is not the Christian God.

Yes, but what "God"? Defined how? Even if most folks don't believe in God (in the Christian form), they acknowledge that version of God is who they don't believe in. I never really get an answer about what God folks believe in if not the Christian God.

Are we talking God, the Creator?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

From what I know (which admittedly is very little), spells are done to result in an action, not simply as a form of prayer. Is this just a movie thing?

You say you believe in God. Are we talking the Christian God?

Are prayers not said with the end goal in mind to chance a specific circumstance? I cast spells for healing, insight, happiness, peace.

I believe in a Goddess and a God, two forms of one cosmic higher power.

Not in the context I mean. For instance, you cast a spell for a guy to fall in love with you. After the spell, the action immediately follows. Same as the insight you "prayed" for on behalf of your friend. I'm Christian and our prayers are not meant in the same "instantaneous" context. In fact, the prayer is more for God's favor and not necessarily that, because we prayed, it will be answered. Spells seem to suggest a "just ask and it shall be" sort of vibe. Maybe I'm wrong?

Again, God in a Christian sense. If not, what "God"? Or perhaps it's god?

Not OP.. but if you look above you will see that she believes in a Goddess and a God. IIRC it's already been stated that it is not the Christian God.

That's correct. I don't believe in the Christian God. I believe in a God that is connected to his female counterpart, the Goddess.