Muslima
Post 08/09/2014 20:08     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:I shared this video with a friend who said:

So...you want to like being in a free society like the UK, but you don't want to give up the symbol of repression and terrorism you have left behind?


I think that says it all.




Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:lol @ the comment about the niqab "differentiating" her from the rest!


Muslima wrote:


why is that funny?



Then again, 8 Muslim Women have been head of state in Muslim countries while America is still waiting for its first female president in 2014.... the idea that there is even a discussion in the US that Hilary Clinton may be problematic for the office merely because she is a woman is a sign of how backward US politics is but hey, here in America women are "FREE", they wear bikinis and miniskirts, talk about messed up priorities.... But what do I know, Muslim women are oppressed
Muslima
Post 08/09/2014 20:04     Subject: S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:Any religion that
- claims a burqa (or any other level of covering) is "freedom" and
- abuses any person who is homosexual

is not a religion.

It's a cult meant to reign in as many idiots as possible. Idiots are the easiest to control.

Yes, I hope to ANY god you never have children.



Alhamdulilah, Praise be to God, He has blessed me to be a mother, so you won't get your wish. I will not wish infertility to you, those are not the teachings of my prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him. I wish that Allah in his infinite mercy bless you with as many children as you wish who will be submitted to their Lord. As far as religion is concerned, unfortunately for you , you do not get to define what religion is for the rest of us. Peace be upon you ~
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 17:27     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

I shared this video with a friend who said:

So...you want to like being in a free society like the UK, but you don't want to give up the symbol of repression and terrorism you have left behind?


I think that says it all.




Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:lol @ the comment about the niqab "differentiating" her from the rest!


Muslima wrote:



why is that funny?
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 17:25     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
There are female rabbis at some Reform synagogues. There are female priests at many Episcopal churches. I don't see them anywhere else. And they have required a change in the way they interpret religion in order to get to that point. To me, that makes them much less strict.


... So, we disagree on what strict means but I think we both agree that there is some huge variation in Christian and Judaic practice, and therefore none of these religions look "the same" as Islam or each other. To someone who is not that interested in religion probably all religions look the same but they are not.



look - bottom line

The more removed you are from the extremist views (Islam, Judaism, Christianity), the closer you are to becoming an atheist.

been there, done that

believe in a higher being but will NOT allow some silly text to guide my life
not following any Lamb of God . . .
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 15:35     Subject: S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:Any religion that
- claims a burqa (or any other level of covering) is "freedom" and
- abuses any person who is homosexual

is not a religion.

It's a cult meant to reign in as many idiots as possible. Idiots are the easiest to control.

Yes, I hope to ANY god you never have children.




Islam is a cult of violence against humanity.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 13:22     Subject: S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Any religion that
- claims a burqa (or any other level of covering) is "freedom" and
- abuses any person who is homosexual

is not a religion.

It's a cult meant to reign in as many idiots as possible. Idiots are the easiest to control.

Yes, I hope to ANY god you never have children.

Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 13:22     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:
There are female rabbis at some Reform synagogues. There are female priests at many Episcopal churches. I don't see them anywhere else. And they have required a change in the way they interpret religion in order to get to that point. To me, that makes them much less strict.


... So, we disagree on what strict means but I think we both agree that there is some huge variation in Christian and Judaic practice, and therefore none of these religions look "the same" as Islam or each other. To someone who is not that interested in religion probably all religions look the same but they are not.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 13:09     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.


Muslima is a huge troll.


+1.

I think she's an "accidental" troll. She's on a one-woman mission to rehabilitate the image of Islam, but little does she know she's sort of making things worse.


I disagree. I don't think she's trying to rehabilitate anything, just trying to explain her view of it. Better, worse, none of the above.

Strictly following any Abrahamic religion looks pretty much the same. There "are" liberal Muslims (I'm married to one) but nowhere near the numbers like Reform Jews or more modern denominations of Christianity.


I very strongly disagree with you that strictly following all the Abrahamic religions looks "the same." Maybe to you, but not to me.



None of them, traditionally, extends equal rights to women. I'm not talking about modern versions like Reform Judaism or recent Episcopal church..


"Modern" versions of Judaism or Christianity are not any less Judaism or Christianity. Just because to an outsider they seem less "strict," that really doesn't mean anything. You may find that they are actually very strict.


There are female rabbis at some Reform synagogues. There are female priests at many Episcopal churches. I don't see them anywhere else. And they have required a change in the way they interpret religion in order to get to that point. To me, that makes them much less strict.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 12:57     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Take out the word "other" in the second to last sentence.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 12:55     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

For Jews and Muslims, the Christian concept of Christ (fully human and fully divine) is incomprensible and abhorent. For we Christians, it is our consolation and strength. The Eucharist for Lutherans, Orthodox, Catholics, and some other Protestants involves the actual presence of the Lord in the bread and wine. We are eating and drinking the body and blood of Christ. Again, this is abhorent to Jews and Muslims, but a source of strength for other Christians. And I could go on.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 12:51     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.


Muslima is a huge troll.


+1.

I think she's an "accidental" troll. She's on a one-woman mission to rehabilitate the image of Islam, but little does she know she's sort of making things worse.


I disagree. I don't think she's trying to rehabilitate anything, just trying to explain her view of it. Better, worse, none of the above.

Strictly following any Abrahamic religion looks pretty much the same. There "are" liberal Muslims (I'm married to one) but nowhere near the numbers like Reform Jews or more modern denominations of Christianity.


I very strongly disagree with you that strictly following all the Abrahamic religions looks "the same." Maybe to you, but not to me.



None of them, traditionally, extends equal rights to women. I'm not talking about modern versions like Reform Judaism or recent Episcopal church..


"Modern" versions of Judaism or Christianity are not any less Judaism or Christianity. Just because to an outsider they seem less "strict," that really doesn't mean anything. You may find that they are actually very strict.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 12:45     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.


Muslima is a huge troll.


+1.

I think she's an "accidental" troll. She's on a one-woman mission to rehabilitate the image of Islam, but little does she know she's sort of making things worse.


I disagree. I don't think she's trying to rehabilitate anything, just trying to explain her view of it. Better, worse, none of the above.

Strictly following any Abrahamic religion looks pretty much the same. There "are" liberal Muslims (I'm married to one) but nowhere near the numbers like Reform Jews or more modern denominations of Christianity.


I very strongly disagree with you that strictly following all the Abrahamic religions looks "the same." Maybe to you, but not to me.



None of them, traditionally, extends equal rights to women. I'm not talking about modern versions like Reform Judaism or recent Episcopal church..
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 12:04     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

I would agree that the Abrahamic religions are not all the same.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2014 11:59     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.


Muslima is a huge troll.


+1.

I think she's an "accidental" troll. She's on a one-woman mission to rehabilitate the image of Islam, but little does she know she's sort of making things worse.


I disagree. I don't think she's trying to rehabilitate anything, just trying to explain her view of it. Better, worse, none of the above.

Strictly following any Abrahamic religion looks pretty much the same. There "are" liberal Muslims (I'm married to one) but nowhere near the numbers like Reform Jews or more modern denominations of Christianity.


I very strongly disagree with you that strictly following all the Abrahamic religions looks "the same." Maybe to you, but not to me.

Muslima
Post 08/09/2014 11:45     Subject: Re:S/O Let's just talk about Islamic headscarves/hijabs/abayas here, shall we?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Once again Muslima, this is an anonymous forum yet you choose to put your religion out there and I assume you are a woman since you are speaking of all of the coverings, etc. but let's be real you could be ANYONE. And even a MAN for example. If you truly are Muslim you may not get the western reference, but my spidey sense has been tapped since you have joined and let's call it way too late on a Friday, call me suspicious, call me whatever you'd like. Something is up with you. Good night and God Bless.


Muslima is a huge troll.


+1.

I think she's an "accidental" troll. She's on a one-woman mission to rehabilitate the image of Islam, but little does she know she's sort of making things worse.


I disagree. I don't think she's trying to rehabilitate anything, just trying to explain her view of it. Better, worse, none of the above.

Strictly following any Abrahamic religion looks pretty much the same. There "are" liberal Muslims (I'm married to one) but nowhere near the numbers like Reform Jews or more modern denominations of Christianity.



Thank you! That would be a huge task to try to rehabilitate the image of Islam behind a keyboard. The irony is , I answer to questions directed at me, or when I read someone saying something that is completely incorrect/false, I did not start this thread or any Islamic threads on this forum. People are free to believe whatever they want and live their lives however they want