Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 21:05     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:This is significant and gets more to the original theme of the thread:

Anonymous wrote:
Research published in today's Washington Post reports that only 47% of African Americans in DC over the age of 16 are actually working... compared to 80% of whites.
[drops mic and exits stage]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-will-dcs-next-mayor-tackle-inequality/2014/03/14/69256ee6-aae1-11e3-af5f-4c56b834c4bf_story.html


Yes, well the unemployment rate is almost 20 points higher in black wards vs. white. Also it's easy for both parents to work when you make enough for child care.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 20:12     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
This is significant and gets more to the original theme of the thread:

Anonymous wrote:
Research published in today's Washington Post reports that only 47% of African Americans in DC over the age of 16 are actually working... compared to 80% of whites.
[drops mic and exits stage]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-will-dcs-next-mayor-tackle-inequality/2014/03/14/69256ee6-aae1-11e3-af5f-4c56b834c4bf_story.html
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 20:06     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"There's also deadbeat white trash on welfare."

Whoa. I agree that there are a lot of white people on welfare, but calling them "deadbeat" is pretty severe. Ryan did not say that black people on welfare are "deadbeats," and if he -- or anyone else -- said that I'll bet a lot of people on this forum would go ballistic,


+1

You gotta love a poster who thinks the solution to an accusation of racism is to spit the same venom at white people.

The Bible treats the poor with respect and dignity. We should do no less.


The venom wasn't directed at the color of anyone's skin. Nor was it directed at the mere fact of anyone's poverty. You evidently missed that.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 20:05     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthcare the way it was is vastly superior to obamasewage.

Ryan's statements are less racist than joe bidens and more articulate than B O's


I don't see how it can be "vastly" better. I have the same health plan and probably so do you. The biggest difference is that a bunch of uninsured people have healthcare, too.


+100
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 20:04     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:Healthcare the way it was is vastly superior to obamasewage.

Ryan's statements are less racist than joe bidens and more articulate than B O's


Anyone who is incapable of proper capitalization or punctuation or who throws around ridiculously awkward and kludgy words like "obamasewage" couldn't find "articulate" with both hands if it were his own ass, let alone presume to tell anyone else what is or isn't articulate. And, I don't think I need to even get into the utterly ridiculous statement about "healthcare the way it was."
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 19:55     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:Healthcare the way it was is vastly superior to obamasewage.

Ryan's statements are less racist than joe bidens and more articulate than B O's


I don't see how it can be "vastly" better. I have the same health plan and probably so do you. The biggest difference is that a bunch of uninsured people have healthcare, too.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 19:54     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:"There's also deadbeat white trash on welfare."

Whoa. I agree that there are a lot of white people on welfare, but calling them "deadbeat" is pretty severe. Ryan did not say that black people on welfare are "deadbeats," and if he -- or anyone else -- said that I'll bet a lot of people on this forum would go ballistic,


+1

You gotta love a poster who thinks the solution to an accusation of racism is to spit the same venom at white people.

The Bible treats the poor with respect and dignity. We should do no less.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 19:41     Subject: Re:Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:For all the liberals - you believe this law is going so well? You wouldn't make any changes?


Which law? I thought the subject was poverty in America.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 19:26     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Mr. Ridiculous Republican obviously has nothing to offer here... back to the topic at hand.

Research published in today's Washington Post reports that only 47% of African Americans in DC over the age of 16 are actually working... compared to 80% of whites.
[drops mic and exits stage]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-will-dcs-next-mayor-tackle-inequality/2014/03/14/69256ee6-aae1-11e3-af5f-4c56b834c4bf_story.html
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 19:03     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
"There's also deadbeat white trash on welfare."

Whoa. I agree that there are a lot of white people on welfare, but calling them "deadbeat" is pretty severe. Ryan did not say that black people on welfare are "deadbeats," and if he -- or anyone else -- said that I'll bet a lot of people on this forum would go ballistic,
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 18:57     Subject: Re:Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
And - you will love this - the ACA uncovered $4.3 billion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud! The Tea Party fiscal conservatives should be standing up and cheering!

http://www.examiner.com/article/affordable-care-ac...d-amount-from-healthcare-fraud




Gee. I just read the article. The whole source of information was Sebelius and DOJ. Very little actual detail except for their word. I question both sources.


You "question" the sources based on what exact reasoning and based on information from what authoritative source? Just because some loudmouth like Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity said you shouldn't believe it? Ha ha ha...

What is YOUR authoritative source? Come on, admit it... all you have is facts-optional right wing talk-radio/FNC bloviators who just make it all up as they go along. If you are truly an independent minded critical thinker, you should start with questioning THEM... particularly as they get caught in whoppers of lies just about every day. ROTFL!


PP probably thinks that Sebelius and Holder got together over drinks and wrote the entire 107-page report (linked in the article, PP! You can see the data for yourself!) out of whole cloth, right before they started plotting to use all of that huge ammunition buy to start executing seniors.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 18:54     Subject: Re:Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Leadership?

"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan". Now that is leadership!
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 18:40     Subject: Re:Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
For all the liberals - you believe this law is going so well? You wouldn't make any changes?
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 18:29     Subject: Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Healthcare the way it was is vastly superior to obamasewage.

Ryan's statements are less racist than joe bidens and more articulate than B O's
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2014 18:23     Subject: Re:Was Paul Ryan's remark inarticulate or racist?
Anonymous wrote:
From another post which frames it quite well, with citations:

The language in the Affordable Care Act forcing people to buy insurance came almost verbatim from the 1993 GOP healthcare reform proposal. To quote from the 1993 GOP healthcare bill: "Subtitle F: Universal Coverage - Requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program by January 1, 2005."
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/103/s1770/text

Prior to that, the individual mandate came from the Heritage Foundation in 1990 - http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/1990/07/U...te-an-Affordable-Health-System where the Heritage Foundation's own proposal says “government would require, by law every head of household to acquire at least a basic health plan for his or her family.”

You should be quite embarrassed to not even know your own party's history on the subject.




Then, I guess they wised up. Funny, you must know what a fiasco this bill is now that you are trying to blame it on the GOP.


Of course they didn't "wise up" - after all, it's now been 5 years since the debate started and the GOP *STILL* hasn't managed to come up with anything meaningful in terms of healthcare reform to replace their idea of the individual mandate.

The problem with the GOP is that they have nothing to offer - no leadership, no plans, no direction - the only thing they ever do is knee-jerk reactionary opposition to Democrats. Whatever it is the Democrats support, they automatically oppose. Even if it was their own idea. That is not leadership. It is a complete GOP disaster.