Not sure many of the NFL hall of famers were playing tackle football in elementary and middle school. It's simply not recommended as athletic policy. No one controls what you do in your backyard though. I bet archie did fling the pig skin around with his boys!! Tag/flag or tackle football.

I'm a soccer player (in the day) but I played a lot of tackle football in the back yard with the gang in an era when kids just played and there was no such thing as a "play date" or SAT prep.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't find what you don't look for.

From the FCPS website:

How can I prepare my child to take the tests? Can I see sample questions or practice sheets?



Sample questions are practiced by students as part of the test preparation. Sample tests are not commercially available. The best test preparation is a good night's sleep and a healthy breakfast.

Your quote does NOT say don't prep. Please find the quote that says don't prep. It doesn't exist....

It doesn't say "don't cheat" either, so does that make cheating okay?

It also doesn't say don't have your older sister take the test for you. So does that make that okay?


Perhaps there's no convincing literalist lunkheads such as yourself. But those of us with half a brain can read between the lines. My AART also told me no prep was needed before my child took the test. If you need an outright ban in order to do what's right, I wonder about other choices you're making.

I stick with my theory. Parents who feel the need to prep don't have faith in their kids' abilities.

Archie Manning confirms: Peyton didn't even start playing football until 7th grade. http://thebiglead.com/2012/09/13/q-a-with-archie-m...scenter-commercial-came-about/

This is true for many of that era. Many played soccer in elementary and middle school and laced up the cleats and put on the helmet in high school. Peyton was a little early in my estimation at 7th grade. Even today interscholastic sports don't begin until 7th or 8th grade.

No point here. Peyton was a baller early on.

The best test preparation is a good night's sleep and a healthy breakfast.

Hey, homie, tell that to a lawyer or surgeon studying for the Bar or Boards. Unlike your strategy, serious students do not begin prep the night before the test. EvenPeyton doesn't leave his prep until the night before the game!

Archie Manning confirms: Peyton didn't even start playing football until 7th grade. http://thebiglead.com/2012/09/13/q-a-with-archie-manning-peytons-tough-decision-elis-great-year-and-how-that-sportscenter-commercial-came-about/

Anonymous wrote:You don't find what you don't look for.

From the FCPS website:

How can I prepare my child to take the tests? Can I see sample questions or practice sheets?



Sample questions are practiced by students as part of the test preparation. Sample tests are not commercially available. The best test preparation is a good night's sleep and a healthy breakfast.

Your quote does NOT say don't prep. Please find the quote that says don't prep. It doesn't exist....

"Prepping" does not equate with stealing AAP exams and memorizing answers to questions. That is not preparation in the least...it's stealing the test and memorizing answers. It is far simple to call the latter what is is than to equate stealing the answers to the test as "preparation" or"prep". Is prep for the lawyer, debater, public speaker or brain surgeon stealing answers to the test?

Any child will give this crowd a better definition of "prep" and preparation for a test --- then stealing the answers to test questions. Grow up and move on.

If Peyton was so "gifted" why the "prep". Perhaps all children should "prep" like Peyton to reach for those results. If Peyton, so truly blessed and gifted, feels the need to prep like a dog only a fool would dream of success by drinking beer and playing lacrosse. Imagine being one of his lazy and ungifted teammate forsaking "prep". Kids, go ahead and work hard and prep. It's ok. It will do wonders for your game and performance...just like Phelps and Peyton. They swear by prep and hard work. Do not be fooled by these Starbuck winos. Preparation in school is great ... for games, classes and exams. It will serve you well in the workforce and life too. "Prepping" must have absolutely nothing to do with giftedness if the chosen like Phelps and Peyton prep and work hard.

You don't find what you don't look for.

From the FCPS website:

How can I prepare my child to take the tests? Can I see sample questions or practice sheets?



Sample questions are practiced by students as part of the test preparation. Sample tests are not commercially available. The best test preparation is a good night's sleep and a healthy breakfast.

Anonymous wrote:New poster here.

It's funny no matter how many times, reasonable people try to explain prepping, the obtuse, the gamers, the clueless and others fearful that their children can't make the grade or will be left behind, come up shrieking that prepping is okay no matter what. For the umpteenth time, the prepping referred to in this thread is specific preparation for an aptitude test used to screen for AAP-- one that FCPS has recommended not prepping for. There appear to be differing degrees of prepping involved -- the out and out wrong kind and the control-freak, pushy or insecure parent kind. It's well known that FCPS had to change FxAT specifically because some people had obtained actual copies of the test. That is out and out wrong. I know this from speaking personally with Carol Horn and from reading court papers from a semi-related lawsuit. There's also prepping by drilling kids using workbooks made sold by companies like Mercer Publishing where problems are similar enough to test questions that the CogAT publishers filed a lawsuit. I personally think this is unnecessary, as does FCPS, but apparently some people feel they have to do this in order to get their kids into AAP and they really don't care whether it's ethical because they are going to get theirs for their kid. Some come from cultures where prepping is a way of life and I'm sympathetic to that, but I really wish FCPS would devise a better screening process.

When people talk about prepping on this thread they are NOT talking about preparing and studying for tests, doing homework, doing extra work or supplementing to master a math concept or training to play pro football or other sport.

I think all the references to Peyton, do highlight the fear though that your kid might not have the stuff. As a PP noted, the Manning brothers were gifted with the right genes at birth --probably the reason their Dad felt no need to push or prep them (can you even do this?) in football. I think some of those trying so hard to prep their kids to do well on a screening test need to ask themselves if their child is truly an intellectual Peyton or whether they're trying to make them into something they're not. Have a little faith folks. Those with kids who easily make the AAP grade typically aren't prepping. That should tell you something.

Isn't that the whole reason why these threads keep reappearing? FCPS has never said this- now, having a copy of the actual test is so blatantly a reason to dismiss any scores (like any other test like sat, gmat etc)

I meant change "to" FxAT....

New poster here.

It's funny no matter how many times, reasonable people try to explain prepping, the obtuse, the gamers, the clueless and others fearful that their children can't make the grade or will be left behind, come up shrieking that prepping is okay no matter what. For the umpteenth time, the prepping referred to in this thread is specific preparation for an aptitude test used to screen for AAP-- one that FCPS has recommended not prepping for. There appear to be differing degrees of prepping involved -- the out and out wrong kind and the control-freak, pushy or insecure parent kind. It's well known that FCPS had to change FxAT specifically because some people had obtained actual copies of the test. That is out and out wrong. I know this from speaking personally with Carol Horn and from reading court papers from a semi-related lawsuit. There's also prepping by drilling kids using workbooks made sold by companies like Mercer Publishing where problems are similar enough to test questions that the CogAT publishers filed a lawsuit. I personally think this is unnecessary, as does FCPS, but apparently some people feel they have to do this in order to get their kids into AAP and they really don't care whether it's ethical because they are going to get theirs for their kid. Some come from cultures where prepping is a way of life and I'm sympathetic to that, but I really wish FCPS would devise a better screening process.

When people talk about prepping on this thread they are NOT talking about preparing and studying for tests, doing homework, doing extra work or supplementing to master a math concept or training to play pro football or other sport.

I think all the references to Peyton, do highlight the fear though that your kid might not have the stuff. As a PP noted, the Manning brothers were gifted with the right genes at birth --probably the reason their Dad felt no need to push or prep them (can you even do this?) in football. I think some of those trying so hard to prep their kids to do well on a screening test need to ask themselves if their child is truly an intellectual Peyton or whether they're trying to make them into something they're not. Have a little faith folks. Those with kids who easily make the AAP grade typically aren't prepping. That should tell you something.

In desperation, S*** for brains ignores the subject of the thread, and does not understand that test prep for the aap exams by buying the exams is fundamentally different from Peyton Manning preparing for a game. It is different than studying for an algebra test....unless studying means steeling a copy of the test, and memorizing the answers.

No one is saying kids shouldn't study in general. We are saying that this one test -- the FxAT -- should not be prepped for. Nor should the WISC. It invalidates the score/measurement. It gives an unreliable assessment of the children.

I am sure that even the great Peyton Manning would agree.

The poster can't stand those children who study, work and prepare hard without buying exams for AAP or playing lacrosse at the Country Club. These children and parents do not buy AAP examsand do not know where to buy them. They teach and tutor their children who work hard and "prep" just like Peyton. Neither Peyton not these children are cheating. This type of prep does not require stealing the exam. Tricky Dick Nixon broke into the school law offices at Duke to steal exam grades. Only Bush-lite steals exams and tests (frat bros) in my experience share them with the bros. The rest of us prep and work hard. Peyton would endorse this.

Only folk with supratentorial feces would equate hard work and prep with stealing an exam and memorizing the answers. Space head...are you from outer space?

Anonymous wrote:

yes they should. And Peyton does not cheat, unlike the people that buy copies of the test to have their kids memorize the answers.

In desperation, hard work and preparation is now translated to mean buying copies of the test and memorizing the answers. I now see what you mean by preparation in your household. Sorry, we do not subscribe to your warped definition of preparation and neither does Peyton. Our preparation is much deeper and thorough (like Peyton). It does not require buying tests, cheating, stealing and simply memorizing answers. Try it and you will have no reason to lie, steal and cheat. Do it the Peyton way.

In desperation, S*** for brains ignores the subject of the thread, and does not understand that test prep for the aap exams by buying the exams is fundamentally different from Peyton Manning preparing for a game. It is different than studying for an algebra test....unless studying means steeling a copy of the test, and memorizing the answers.

No one is saying kids shouldn't study in general. We are saying that this one test -- the FxAT -- should not be prepped for. Nor should the WISC. It invalidates the score/measurement. It gives an unreliable assessment of the children.

I am sure that even the great Peyton Manning would agree.

Anonymous wrote:

yes they should. And Peyton does not cheat, unlike the people that buy copies of the test to have their kids memorize the answers.

In desperation, hard work and preparation is now translated to mean buying copies of the test and memorizing the answers. I now see what you mean by preparation in your household. Sorry, we do not subscribe to your warped definition of preparation and neither does Peyton. Our preparation is much deeper and thorough (like Peyton). It does not require buying tests, cheating, stealing and simply memorizing answers. Try it and you will have no reason to lie, steal and cheat. Do it the Peyton way.

Wow, you are entertaining, and not in a good way. You obviously have no clue what this thread was about in the first place as your "responses" are so far out there. Bizarre.