I love these threads that exponentially increase the likelihood of students both domestic and international developing severe anxiety regarding college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares what foreigners think about American universities. They're desperate to come here not the other way around.

What an ignorant America first attitude. It really depends on the country. In the former British commonwealth countries, Oxbridge still holds a lot of prestige and England is considered safer to send your kids than America. In Korea and China, there’s more interest in American universities, particularly the Ivy League, those in California and those with high quality STEM programs. In South East Asia, many students parents more focused on Australian universities.

I agree that UCLA has unwarranted international name recognition because of its sports programs (basketball? gymnastics? swimming?).

Here are some of the non-US news rankings: https://www.ucla.edu/about/rankings#:~:text=Global%20Rankings&text=UCLA%20ranked%209th%20out%20of,academics%20from%20around%20the%20globe.

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Anonymous wrote:Conversely what foreign universities do Americans consider prestigious...or even have heard of?

When I did int'l hiring, we were told that U of London/LSE, Oxford, Cambridge, Edinburgh, St Andrews, Hague, Leiden, Sorbonne, Bologna, Jagellonian, McGill, Toronto, Dalhousie, UC Dublin and TC Dublin, Ljubljana, Cape Town, Witwatersrand, Moscow GU, and someplace I don't recall were the top 20 that were presumptively as good as a high-end US university, if not better.

I am surprised about LSE. We call it Let's See Europe and think it is mostly a boondoggle.

Yes, we heard you the first 5 times.

Foreigners think NYU is prestigious. That's all that needs to be said.

Anonymous wrote:I teach international students, and a lot of them only know Harvard, Yale, MIT, and UCLA (just because they've heard of it). Of course, none of them can actually get into those schools - if they could, they'd probably know more schools than that begin with.

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None in the US. I’d also heard of Oxbridge, uni of Tokyo and a few others around the world.

Faber College

Hopkins School if Public Health was brilliant. They gave Masters degrees to like the entire public health ministry in Taiwan (in batches, over years). Talk about a way to get your name out there!

Oxford

Who cares what foreigners think about American universities. They're desperate to come here not the other way around.

Anonymous wrote:All the Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Northwestern, maybe Duke.

Colleges like Rice, Emory, Babson, random no names that cost 60k/year are not considered prestigious by the outside world, nor are the UC schools with the possible exception of UC Berkeley.

I went to LSE for undergrad and grad school.

Random no names yet you named them. Also I hope you don't think that people know what LSE is. If it's not Oxbridge who cares.

Wharton - UPenn

I thought the grand idea of taking in wealthy students from China originated with that enormous price tag they pay in tuition costs to elite US universities.

I used to think it was a good thing if top American universities had a large contingent of foreign students, but I've reconsidered this. US taxpayers tremendously subsidize even the most well endowed universities, whether through federal research grants, direct aid or the tax code for charitable bequests. With demand for admission so great from U.S. applicants, it seems insane that 15-20% of university classes are made up of non-US students. Moreover, the grand thinking behind taking students from China -- that it would inculcate them in Western values of intellectual freedom and democracy, which they would take with them when they returned to begin careers at home -- was flawed. That experiment didn't turn out so well, as the princelings of the Communist and oligarch elites don't have much interest after all in seeing change in an established system that already privileges them.