Anonymous wrote:Whatever PP said Brown is completely crazy. admission rate last year 9.6%, lower than Cal Tech, Penn, Dartmouth, just about everywhere except HYPS and some unusual places like the service academies and Julliard.

Northwestern 2017 admit rate = 9%.

Penn State

Elon

Auburn

Anonymous wrote:Here's a bit of info regarding Michigan and UC schools. One huge difference is that while going to school in Michigan you can NOT convert to an instate tuition even if you never leave the state after starting. While in CA, you can convert to an in-state tuition after the first year.

Here's a few more tidbits from my experience both as an alum as well as an interviewer for prospective students (UM College of Engineering):

1) There's a lot more competition than a couple decades ago.
2) Roughly 50% of TJ kids whom I interviewed were accepted. It does look like some kids hit a cap as inferior ones from other high schools were accepted over them.
3) UM still gives a huge advantage for children of alumni, especially if both parents went there.
4) NY/NJ has generally been the feeder states into UM, but DC metro is picking up steam last few years.

Does this count for alums of the graduate schools also? How much of an advantage can it be when there are 400,000 graduates. My friend is a graduate and his son is an instate white male with a 3.8 from a very competitive school district and did not get in. Another is a white male with a 3.9 and declined. However, he went to Michigan State for a year and is transferring. California is another big feeder state as the # of competitive instate and upper Midwest candidates decreases.

Barnard and Wellesley are not easy to get into.

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Anonymous wrote:The Seven Sisters that are still women's colleges. Bryn Mawr, Smith and Mount Holyoke.

My mother is a Bryn Mawr alumna and was active in her local alum organization and did many local interviews. Even she has admitted that the quality of girls going to Bryn Mawr today is not what it was in the 1960s. The Ivies hurt the Seven Sisters when they went coed, as did the other top LACs. Hillary Clinton would never have gone to Wellesley had she been born five years later.

But they still offer top notch education and excellent facilities.

WTF are you talking about?

As a child, Rodham was a favorite student of her teachers at the public schools that she attended in Park Ridge.[13] She participated in sports such as swimming and baseball, and earned numerous badges as a Brownie and a Girl Scout.[13] She has often told a story[14][15][16] of being inspired by U.S. efforts during the Space Race and sending a letter to NASA around 1961 asking what she could do to become an astronaut, only to be told that no women were being accepted into the program.[17] She attended Maine East High School, where she participated in the student council, the school newspaper, and was selected for the National Honor Society.[4][18] She was elected class vice president for her junior year, but then lost for class president for her senior year against two boys, one of whom told her that "you are really stupid if you think a girl can be elected president".[19] For her senior year, she and other students were transferred to the then new Maine South High School, where she was a National Merit Finalist and was voted "most likely to succeed". She graduated in her class's top five percent in 1965.[20]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

Five years later, she could have gone to Yale.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYU
Penn State
the all women's schools (e.g., Mt Holyoke, Smith, Bryn Mawr)
Tulane
Syracuse

Since when is Tulane, Penn State and Syracuse prestigious? Did I miss something? Prestigious is top 50, Ivies, etc....these are good schools but more average, no?

Here are the current USNRW rankings:

NYU: 36
Penn State: 50
Mt Holyoke: 36 (LAC)
Smith: 12 (LAC)
Bryn Mawr: 31 (LAC)
Tulane: 39
Syracuse: 60

So, according to your criteria, only one of these schools would not be "prestigious."

Anonymous wrote:The Seven Sisters that are still women's colleges. Bryn Mawr, Smith and Mount Holyoke.

My mother is a Bryn Mawr alumna and was active in her local alum organization and did many local interviews. Even she has admitted that the quality of girls going to Bryn Mawr today is not what it was in the 1960s. The Ivies hurt the Seven Sisters when they went coed, as did the other top LACs. Hillary Clinton would never have gone to Wellesley had she been born five years later.

But they still offer top notch education and excellent facilities.

WTF are you talking about?

As a child, Rodham was a favorite student of her teachers at the public schools that she attended in Park Ridge.[13] She participated in sports such as swimming and baseball, and earned numerous badges as a Brownie and a Girl Scout.[13] She has often told a story[14][15][16] of being inspired by U.S. efforts during the Space Race and sending a letter to NASA around 1961 asking what she could do to become an astronaut, only to be told that no women were being accepted into the program.[17] She attended Maine East High School, where she participated in the student council, the school newspaper, and was selected for the National Honor Society.[4][18] She was elected class vice president for her junior year, but then lost for class president for her senior year against two boys, one of whom told her that "you are really stupid if you think a girl can be elected president".[19] For her senior year, she and other students were transferred to the then new Maine South High School, where she was a National Merit Finalist and was voted "most likely to succeed". She graduated in her class's top five percent in 1965.[20]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

^ Point taken. Had grad school on the mind. Michigan won't allow grad conversions.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a bit of info regarding Michigan and UC schools. One huge difference is that while going to school in Michigan you can NOT convert to an instate tuition even if you never leave the state after starting. While in CA, you can convert to an in-state tuition after the first year.

Here's a few more tidbits from my experience both as an alum as well as an interviewer for prospective students (UM College of Engineering):

1) There's a lot more competition than a couple decades ago.
2) Roughly 50% of TJ kids whom I interviewed were accepted. It does look like some kids hit a cap as inferior ones from other high schools were accepted over them.
3) UM still gives a huge advantage for children of alumni, especially if both parents went there.
4) NY/NJ has generally been the feeder states into UM, but DC metro is picking up steam last few years.

Not unless you are an orphan, a ward of the Court, in the US military, married with kids (or other non-spousal dependents), or married and were not claimed as a dependent by your parents in the year previous to your request to be classified as a CA resident for tuition purposes.

http://ucop.edu/residency/establishing-residency.html

Here's a bit of info regarding Michigan and UC schools. One huge difference is that while going to school in Michigan you can NOT convert to an instate tuition even if you never leave the state after starting. While in CA, you can convert to an in-state tuition after the first year.

Here's a few more tidbits from my experience both as an alum as well as an interviewer for prospective students (UM College of Engineering):

1) There's a lot more competition than a couple decades ago.
2) Roughly 50% of TJ kids whom I interviewed were accepted. It does look like some kids hit a cap as inferior ones from other high schools were accepted over them.
3) UM still gives a huge advantage for children of alumni, especially if both parents went there.
4) NY/NJ has generally been the feeder states into UM, but DC metro is picking up steam last few years.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYU
Penn State
the all women's schools (e.g., Mt Holyoke, Smith, Bryn Mawr)
Tulane
Syracuse

With all due respect would not consider Syracuse, Penn State and to a lesser degree Tulane prestigious. Yes they are known but not prestigious...lets not confuse the two.

I went to Penn State. Prestigious is not a word that comes to mind. Dafuq?

But for the "prestige" part.

NYU has best prestige to ease of acceptance ratio, by far.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYU
Penn State
the all women's schools (e.g., Mt Holyoke, Smith, Bryn Mawr)
Tulane
Syracuse

Since when is Tulane, Penn State and Syracuse prestigious? Did I miss something? Prestigious is top 50, Ivies, etc....these are good schools but more average, no?

Psu is in top 50 or near that iirc?

Maybe but also has the most recent past president and 2 admin sentences with jail time for failure to protect children. Sure, the whole school is not bad, but it will never be considered elite.

The Seven Sisters that are still women's colleges. Bryn Mawr, Smith and Mount Holyoke.

My mother is a Bryn Mawr alumna and was active in her local alum organization and did many local interviews. Even she has admitted that the quality of girls going to Bryn Mawr today is not what it was in the 1960s. The Ivies hurt the Seven Sisters when they went coed, as did the other top LACs. Hillary Clinton would never have gone to Wellesley had she been born five years later.

But they still offer top notch education and excellent facilities.