Anonymous wrote:When one presents oneself as an "expert", it is expected that he/she explain WHY he/she is an "expert".

Where did that poster say he/she was an expert? How do you manage to lie in every single post? There should be some dcum award for this. She's just stating facts that you could get from anywhere. Years after removing Saddam, quality of life is still terrible, the government is pathetic, sectarian violence is rampant.

When one presents oneself as an "expert", it is expected that he/she explain WHY he/she is an "expert".

Anonymous wrote:So, you are NOT from Iraq--but you are speaking about how it is worse there than before.

No, I very well may be from Iraq. I'm saying that you don't know and you don't have any right to know. Why would I share any information about myself on a website filled with unhinged, ignorant people? Where are you from and why should anyone listen to you? What is your agenda? Have you not read reports about the current conditions in Iraq? Are you outright admitting your ignorance on this issue? There is PLENTY of information about the deterioration of Iraq available in English, on mainstream news websites and publications. There are plenty of Iraqis living in the U.S. that have shared their concern for their friends and family in Iraq, and if you sought them out, they would tell you.

Let's share with you the facts about Iraq. Do you dispute them? You don't seem to have any facts of your own. Do you dispute what is below? Or do you concede that it is the truth?

The Iraq war resulted in thousands of U.S. soldiers maimed, thousands killed, hundreds of thousands, possibly a million Iraqis dead, millions of Iraqis displaced, sham "democracy" in Iraq with endless sectarian violence, billions of American taxpayer dollars down the toilet, Iraqi's vulnerable Christian community decimated. And no one has ever been held accountable.

So, you are NOT from Iraq--but you are speaking about how it is worse there than before.

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You would be wrong about the Saddam thing. He was an EVIL man. You really need to talk to those from the region to find out the truth.

I AM from the region. Good luck attempting to lie to me.

This is the person to whom I was responding. I guess you are a different poster.

That says region. Not Iraq. Is Iraq a region or a country? I'm pretty sure Iraq is a country, and the Middle East is a region.

Let's stick to the facts, since you seem perpetually confused. Do you dispute this:

The Iraq war resulted in thousands of U.S. soldiers maimed, thousands killed, hundreds of thousands, possibly a million Iraqis dead, millions of Iraqis displaced, sham "democracy" in Iraq with endless sectarian violence, billions of American taxpayer dollars down the toilet, Iraqi's vulnerable Christian community decimated. And no one has ever been held accountable.

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You would be wrong about the Saddam thing. He was an EVIL man. You really need to talk to those from the region to find out the truth.

I AM from the region. Good luck attempting to lie to me.

This is the person to whom I was responding. I guess you are a different poster.

Anonymous wrote:The poster said he/she was from Iraq--not that he was an Arab.

Nope, you are mistaken.

The poster said he/she was from Iraq--not that he was an Arab.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not the prior poster, but it does beg the question of why you come here. I agree that the war was not good, but, still, there must be a reason for you to come here.

Why are you here? Why is it any of your business or relevant to the discussion? There are people of Arab origin in this country whose ancestors came here a hundred years ago. You can assume I'm one of them, since recent immigrants don't seem legitimate to you.

I'm not the prior poster, but it does beg the question of why you come here. I agree that the war was not good, but, still, there must be a reason for you to come here.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, then, I assume you are not a Kurd.

Do you want to continue in this? Really? Are you going to assert that Iraq is better off now? That is flat out wrong. It is a living nightmare for the vast majority of people living there. Go ahead, dig in.

I'm sure for those that got preferential treatment from Hussein, this is much worse. That's the way it is when the ruling class is reduced to that of the other people.

Go ahead, keep bullshitting, it's pretty obvious. Life in Iraq is horrible for regular, everyday people, the same people we were supposedly "liberating." So again, thousands of U.S. soldiers maimed, thousands killed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead or displaced, billions of taxpayer dollars down the toilet, but I guess Kurds are less miserable? Yeah, that seems worth it.

You live in the US, right, and are Iraqi? Why are you here?

Sorry, none of those facts are any of your business, and you're addressing more than 1 poster as the same person. Facts are facts, if you want to get personal, maybe you should share more about yourself and what your agenda is.

I am simply wondering why some folk from other countries come here and then bash our way of government, call us murderers, etc. Seems counter-intuitive.

I can see why you are now aiming for the messenger, since lying has not worked out well. And although I'm an American citizen, even a foreigner is entitled to speak the truth. "Bashing" is stating things which are not facts or using inflammatory language, which is what you do above.

Which part of the facts here are bashing, in your opinion: thousands of U.S. soldiers maimed, thousands killed, hundreds of thousands, possibly a million Iraqis dead, millions of Iraqis displaced (thank you pp above for the correction), sham "democracy" in Iraq with endless sectarian violence, billions of American taxpayer dollars down the toilet, Iraqi's vulnerable Christian community decimated. Is that mission accomplished in your opinion?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, then, I assume you are not a Kurd.

Do you want to continue in this? Really? Are you going to assert that Iraq is better off now? That is flat out wrong. It is a living nightmare for the vast majority of people living there. Go ahead, dig in.

I'm sure for those that got preferential treatment from Hussein, this is much worse. That's the way it is when the ruling class is reduced to that of the other people.

Go ahead, keep bullshitting, it's pretty obvious. Life in Iraq is horrible for regular, everyday people, the same people we were supposedly "liberating." So again, thousands of U.S. soldiers maimed, thousands killed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead or displaced, billions of taxpayer dollars down the toilet, but I guess Kurds are less miserable? Yeah, that seems worth it.

You live in the US, right, and are Iraqi? Why are you here?

Sorry, none of those facts are any of your business, and you're addressing more than 1 poster as the same person. Facts are facts, if you want to get personal, maybe you should share more about yourself and what your agenda is.

I am simply wondering why some folk from other countries come here and then bash our way of government, call us murderers, etc. Seems counter-intuitive.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, which talks about the Ha'aretz article from PJ Media. It's the interwebs - everything is linked.

Were this not the same thing I was hearing from my own friends and loved ones, I'd have refrained. But it is. So I consider it to have some weight.

Considering the MSM's record on these current three scandals, I'd say yeah, they are ignorable.

The most implausible part of this whole thing is that you have time for friends and loved ones, what with your prolific dcum hobby.

I think lying about the Iraq war is an insult to our soldiers, and to the millions of Iraqis whose lives were changed forever by the war. We need to remember why so many died and were injured, and it wasn't for WMD. It was because of lies.

Did Hussein target his own people maliciously and wantonly? Or was he a great guy...

And life in Iraq is now arguably worse than it was under a malicious dictator, in addition to the billions of dollars lost, and the thousands of American soldiers dead and maimed. In addition, the Iraqi people might have risen up on their own as part of the Arab Spring without any of our involvement, money, or lost lives, but that's something we'll never know. Mission accomplished?

Stop whining about dead Iraqis at the hands of Americans when Hussein killed many more. They would have risen up? LOL. With what, wet noodles? How's that Arab Spring working for you, now that Russia has sent warships to defend their interests in Syria?

In Iraq, some brave attempts to collect and analyze data about war-related mortality have at least given us a sense of the scale of mayhem. Several household surveys, the state-of-the-art method favored by epidemiologists, indicate a death toll reaching well into the hundreds of thousands. (This includes all Iraqis, not just civilians, from direct violence and indirectly due to other factors – so-called excess deaths above the pre-war mortality rate.) Even the oft-cited tally of Iraq Body Count, a U.K.-based NGO, holds that more than 100,000 civilians have died as a result of violence. IBC’s method is crude and incomplete—it gathers data mainly from English-language newspapers—and they acknowledge an undercount by at least a factor of two. The lowest estimate of all the household surveys—a large, randomized sample conducted by the Ministry of Health in the spring of 2006—was 400,000 excess deaths in the 2003-2006 period, and there was still a lot of killing to come. By using data on widows, displaced persons (up to 5 million), and the household surveys, I estimate the number of war-related dead to be at least 600,000 and possibly as much as one million.

(http://mit.edu/humancostiraq/)

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Anonymous wrote:Well, then, I assume you are not a Kurd.

Do you want to continue in this? Really? Are you going to assert that Iraq is better off now? That is flat out wrong. It is a living nightmare for the vast majority of people living there. Go ahead, dig in.

I'm sure for those that got preferential treatment from Hussein, this is much worse. That's the way it is when the ruling class is reduced to that of the other people.

Go ahead, keep bullshitting, it's pretty obvious. Life in Iraq is horrible for regular, everyday people, the same people we were supposedly "liberating." So again, thousands of U.S. soldiers maimed, thousands killed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead or displaced, billions of taxpayer dollars down the toilet, but I guess Kurds are less miserable? Yeah, that seems worth it.

You live in the US, right, and are Iraqi? Why are you here?

Sorry, none of those facts are any of your business, and you're addressing more than 1 poster as the same person. Facts are facts, if you want to get personal, maybe you should share more about yourself and what your agenda is.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, then, I assume you are not a Kurd.

Do you want to continue in this? Really? Are you going to assert that Iraq is better off now? That is flat out wrong. It is a living nightmare for the vast majority of people living there. Go ahead, dig in.

I'm sure for those that got preferential treatment from Hussein, this is much worse. That's the way it is when the ruling class is reduced to that of the other people.

Go ahead, keep bullshitting, it's pretty obvious. Life in Iraq is horrible for regular, everyday people, the same people we were supposedly "liberating." So again, thousands of U.S. soldiers maimed, thousands killed, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead or displaced, billions of taxpayer dollars down the toilet, but I guess Kurds are less miserable? Yeah, that seems worth it.

You live in the US, right, and are Iraqi? Why are you here?