Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey Marylanders, how many wineries do you guys have? Crabs sure are yummy (unless they itch), but you can't beat VA's rolling hilltop wineries. BTW, VA has over 200 wineries, arguably top 5 in the country for wine behind the West coast and my beloved NY.

The beauty of LOUDOUN County.

Former Californian, current Marylander here. I'm sorry, but I will never get "Virginia wine" as a reason to look past legalized discrimination based on sexual orientation, racism, legislated vaginal ultrasounds, and personhood conferred on what - fertilized eggs?

I do appreciate that NoVA is different from the rest of the state, but the wingnuts in the rest of the state legislate much of this garbage.

If you really care about the things you mention, move to VA so you vote to make a change.

Anonymous wrote:Hey Marylanders, how many wineries do you guys have? Crabs sure are yummy (unless they itch), but you can't beat VA's rolling hilltop wineries. BTW, VA has over 200 wineries, arguably top 5 in the country for wine behind the West coast and my beloved NY.

The beauty of LOUDOUN County.

Former Californian, current Marylander here. I'm sorry, but I will never get "Virginia wine" as a reason to look past legalized discrimination based on sexual orientation, racism, legislated vaginal ultrasounds, and personhood conferred on what - fertilized eggs?

I do appreciate that NoVA is different from the rest of the state, but the wingnuts in the rest of the state legislate much of this garbage.

"So when we move here, we don't want to live in your crap city, we just work in it and commute on out. "

Hmmmm. This former Angelina (who has also lived in the East Bay and, briefly, in Seattle-- talk about a slow, dull place that made me want to stab my eyes out!!) wouldn't be caught dead in your crap suburb.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in DC and live in DC now. We pretty much look at VA like New Yorkers look at NJ. This is the way the world works.

Well, just FYI, I grew up in San Fran, and the rest of the cities on the coasts -- NY, LA, San Fran, Seattle, etc. -- look at DC as a saaaaaaad, fashion-less, frump-ola place to live, which is also scary, has no sky line, and no natural beauty -- no beach proximity, no mountains, no water body -- that is attractive!, and no lakes. So when we move here, we don't want to live in your crap city, we just work in it and commute on out.

I live in MD but I think DC is a rather lovely city. There's a lot of gorgeous old architecture and greenery and the low skyline gives it an old-world feel that I like. I have a friend who lived in SF for an internship and preferred DC, and my cousin who lives in SF thinks the city itself is pretty ugly and sad (his opinion, not mine, I've never been there).

San Fran, real walkable....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in DC and live in DC now. We pretty much look at VA like New Yorkers look at NJ. This is the way the world works.

Well, just FYI, I grew up in San Fran, and the rest of the cities on the coasts -- NY, LA, San Fran, Seattle, etc. -- look at DC as a saaaaaaad, fashion-less, frump-ola place to live, which is also scary, has no sky line, and no natural beauty -- no beach proximity, no mountains, no water body -- that is attractive!, and no lakes. So when we move here, we don't want to live in your crap city, we just work in it and commute on out.

I live in MD but I think DC is a rather lovely city. There's a lot of gorgeous old architecture and greenery and the low skyline gives it an old-world feel that I like. I have a friend who lived in SF for an internship and preferred DC, and my cousin who lives in SF thinks the city itself is pretty ugly and sad (his opinion, not mine, I've never been there).

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in DC and live in DC now. We pretty much look at VA like New Yorkers look at NJ. This is the way the world works.

A District resident comparing the District to New York City? Oh, this is rich. New York is a city unto itself. DC is a tiny hamlet by comparison. The NY metro area is dominated by NYC. The DC Metro area is dominated by the suburbs. In the DMV, the suburbs have 10 times the population of the District itself. When my sister-in-law from Manhattan visits the district, she calls it, " a day in the country."

Anonymous wrote:What I really want to know is why the MD drivers who get on the Beltway @ Georgetown Pike all drive like such assholes?

Trying to get the heck out of Virginia and back to Maryland as quickly as possible.

Anonymous wrote:I lived in DC for a while and now MD. I generally have a very good sense of direction but I find VA very difficult to navigate, particularly 395 and going south - like the airport and beyond. The signage is terrible. I always end up driving around the Pentagon and can NEVER find the Costco in Pentagon City.

Havent had the same issues going west (Falls Church and Seven Corners were always good to me).

Agree...

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in DC and live in DC now. We pretty much look at VA like New Yorkers look at NJ. This is the way the world works.

Well, just FYI, I grew up in San Fran, and the rest of the cities on the coasts -- NY, LA, San Fran, Seattle, etc. -- look at DC as a saaaaaaad, fashion-less, frump-ola place to live, which is also scary, has no sky line, and no natural beauty -- no beach proximity, no mountains, no water body -- that is attractive!, and no lakes. So when we move here, we don't want to live in your crap city, we just work in it and commute on out.

Why on earth would anyone in their right mind compare NY to this area? Why do people in this area insist on trying to do so?

Once you get out of NoVa, Virginia is a beautiful state. However, the person who said NoVa is to DC what NJ is to NY hit the nail on the head. NoVa is just kind of dumpy, even if there are some nice pockets. I also agree that you see more transplants in VA and more native Washingtonians in DC or MD.

Anonymous wrote:My only issue with VA is the way it's not planned out physically. I feel like my MD 'hood is an extention of DC, with walkability to town, and no strip malls. Haven't found that in VA.

yup

YEAH, but VA has my neighbors. The epitome of backwards:

"AHHM COUNTRYYYY!" Lord help us.

Virginia has much more current and future growth. Virginia has better public higher education. Virginia has slightly lower taxes. Otherwise, pretty damn close. I like the location of the MD suburbs better - closer to Annapolis, Baltimore and the beaches. I think the traffic is bad in both places. I personally like McLean more than Potomac and Arlington more than Bethesda, but I can see the arguments either way. I definitely like Vienna over Rockville/Gaithersburg and Reston over Germantown. Ethnically/religious, MD tends to have more jews and african americans, I think Virginia attracts more asian, and probably equal numbers of latinos, so both areas are incredibly diverse, just a bit different in makeup.

Bottom line, both make up any list of the wealthiest suburbs in the country, both are damn close politically (despite what you think) and both are good places to live other than the traffic and high-cost.

The defense rests:

24 Fortune 500 Headquarters (and obviously growing)

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2012/states/VA.html

vs.

6

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2012/states/MD.html

This is rather telling...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_corporate_headquarters_by_city