Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 16:02     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I call BS. I never knew a law librarian, paralegal or legal secretary who wouldn't have wanted a JD if he or she could. What would be the point? I also don't think people with great grades and MCATs decide to be nurses instead of doctors for the reasons you outline.


I know a couple of lawyers who hated practicing law so much that they took jobs as paralegals or law librarians. And a bunch who left the field altogether.


They probably hated it because they sucked at it. Lawyers who hate practicing law go into business. Lawyers who can't get another job become paralegals.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 16:00     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nurse---people tend to think a) not smart enough to be a doctor and b) sleeping with the doctors. Infuriating (and not true!).


You may be smart enough to be a doctor, but you lacked the ambition.


Unless you are a doctor, you also lacked the ambition to become one, correct?

I am not a nurse, nor am I doctor. I am not interested in school/training that can last a decade. Nothing wrong with that.


And might I point out, it's a different kind of ambition. My ambition wasn't to spend years and years going to school. Yes the money as a doctor would be nice, but that's not what I wanted. My ambition lies directly with the patient. Direct patient care. I spend 12 to 16 hours in a day with my patients, while the doctor might come in twice a week and spend five minutes with the patient. If something goes wrong, the doctor, the patient, and the patient's family, depend on me to correct the problem. If a patient codes, who's guaranteed to be there to revive the patient? The nurse. I respect what doctor's do, but the nurse is the true patient advocate. In addition, as a mother I can adjust my hours as needed, I have excellent benefits and I can pretty much go anywhere in the world and have a job. It's pretty damn nice.


But you'll always be lower in the pecking order, and take your orders from, MDs.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 14:03     Subject: Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Nurse here. If you land in the hospital, be damned glad that those "unambitous" people are there watching your vital signs, checking your dressings, monitoring your output and calling a RAT before you code because 25 years in the field let us know---long before the just out of med school in July intern--that you are about to go seriously south in the next few minutes. We may just keep you alive.

It is true I never had the ambition to be a doctor. I like continuity of care, the ability to live really well on 36 hours (3 days!) of work a week, the ability to go just about anywhere I want and find a job, the cool colleagues that I work with....

Why would I want to be a doc and spend my life working with people with no people skills who are asshats in general?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 12:44     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lobbyist. People think I'm evil/rule the world/am rich/am highly influential, you name it. Unfortunately, none of those are true...except for the evil part.


Former lobbyist here. Our own fellow DCUMs have shown repeatedly how ignorant they are about lobbyists. They don't seem to realize that EVERY SINGLE industry and interest employs them. It ALL depends on the industry. Me, I was in humanitarian assistance. Wheee! Sexy! The money! ($60k.) And the fancy restaurants! (Er, no. There are rules about that.) And the influence! (Trying to get five minutes with a low-level staffer to talk about the international affairs budget.)
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 12:35     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Nursing and pre-med students are very different. Pre-med students who ace the MCAT and succeed in Med School tend to be better at hard science, can absorb dense information, are highly competitive on an academic level, and viewed as the traditional academic high achiever. They need to be ambitious to stick through med school and a 5-10 years of residencies and fellowships. Nursing students may be very smart but the program is less academically rigorous so it doesn't require the same abilities. Nursing tend to attract more students with people skills. Medical students may have people skills but these skills are not developed or rewarded.

A med student wouldn't drop out and become a nurse. They would probably wind up in research, public health policy, or biotech.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 12:15     Subject: Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:I am an entrepreneur. My business is newish and I work out of my home. When I first started it, I think most people thought I was full of shit/not serious. I'm not sure what they think now.


I think crook that will make money for a few years, then overspend and have a business collapse, eventually leading to bankruptcy. Usually due to risky business deals.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 12:10     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:

I call BS. I never knew a law librarian, paralegal or legal secretary who wouldn't have wanted a JD if he or she could. What would be the point? I also don't think people with great grades and MCATs decide to be nurses instead of doctors for the reasons you outline.


I know a couple of lawyers who hated practicing law so much that they took jobs as paralegals or law librarians. And a bunch who left the field altogether.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 10:47     Subject: Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
I am also a nurse, and the practice of a nurse vs the practice of a doctor are completely different! Nurse's provide total care for the patient, including educating. Doctors diagnose, prescribe medications, and occasionally perform surgeries. Doctors spend very little hands on time with their patients.

Completely different scopes of practice!
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 10:42     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nurse---people tend to think a) not smart enough to be a doctor and b) sleeping with the doctors. Infuriating (and not true!).


You may be smart enough to be a doctor, but you lacked the ambition.


Unless you are a doctor, you also lacked the ambition to become one, correct?

I am not a nurse, nor am I doctor. I am not interested in school/training that can last a decade. Nothing wrong with that.


And might I point out, it's a different kind of ambition. My ambition wasn't to spend years and years going to school. Yes the money as a doctor would be nice, but that's not what I wanted. My ambition lies directly with the patient. Direct patient care. I spend 12 to 16 hours in a day with my patients, while the doctor might come in twice a week and spend five minutes with the patient. If something goes wrong, the doctor, the patient, and the patient's family, depend on me to correct the problem. If a patient codes, who's guaranteed to be there to revive the patient? The nurse. I respect what doctor's do, but the nurse is the true patient advocate. In addition, as a mother I can adjust my hours as needed, I have excellent benefits and I can pretty much go anywhere in the world and have a job. It's pretty damn nice.


Why are you defending your decision to be a nurse, PP?

The PP who thnks you lack ambition obviously doesn't have a high-powered job if s/he is responding to you on this forum. Ignore the troll.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 10:40     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nurse---people tend to think a) not smart enough to be a doctor and b) sleeping with the doctors. Infuriating (and not true!).


You may be smart enough to be a doctor, but you lacked the ambition.


Unless you are a doctor, you also lacked the ambition to become one, correct?

I am not a nurse, nor am I doctor. I am not interested in school/training that can last a decade. Nothing wrong with that.


Nothing wrong with that, but it does say you did not have enough ambition to be a doctor. Just own it, nothing wrong with that.


Why does being a doctor represent the epitome of ambition to you? No, I did not have the ambition to be a doctor and I didn't have the ambition to be a lawyer, nobel peace prize winner, software engineer, small business owner....there are several things I chose not to be. Because I don't WANT to be those things. I have no interest in those things. A doctor is just one of the professions on the long list of things I would never consider, including being a nurse. It doesn't mean that any of those professions are not honorable and are a great fit for others--they are just not for me. There is no need to pick on nurses because they aren't the highest paid people at the hospital--they chose their profession and are happy with it. Move on!
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 10:32     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nurse---people tend to think a) not smart enough to be a doctor and b) sleeping with the doctors. Infuriating (and not true!).


You may be smart enough to be a doctor, but you lacked the ambition.


Unless you are a doctor, you also lacked the ambition to become one, correct?

I am not a nurse, nor am I doctor. I am not interested in school/training that can last a decade. Nothing wrong with that.


Nothing wrong with that, but it does say you did not have enough ambition to be a doctor. Just own it, nothing wrong with that.


You mean the school ambition? Who the fuck would want to spend a decade going to school? It takes real ambition to spend day in and day out on a hospital unit with patients... which is what nurses do. It's not the same kind of ambition. Do doctor's have the ambition to spend hours with their patients? Not really. Did they have the ambition to spend years at school to eventually make good money? Sure. It all depends on your passion.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 10:24     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nurse---people tend to think a) not smart enough to be a doctor and b) sleeping with the doctors. Infuriating (and not true!).


You may be smart enough to be a doctor, but you lacked the ambition.


Unless you are a doctor, you also lacked the ambition to become one, correct?

I am not a nurse, nor am I doctor. I am not interested in school/training that can last a decade. Nothing wrong with that.


And might I point out, it's a different kind of ambition. My ambition wasn't to spend years and years going to school. Yes the money as a doctor would be nice, but that's not what I wanted. My ambition lies directly with the patient. Direct patient care. I spend 12 to 16 hours in a day with my patients, while the doctor might come in twice a week and spend five minutes with the patient. If something goes wrong, the doctor, the patient, and the patient's family, depend on me to correct the problem. If a patient codes, who's guaranteed to be there to revive the patient? The nurse. I respect what doctor's do, but the nurse is the true patient advocate. In addition, as a mother I can adjust my hours as needed, I have excellent benefits and I can pretty much go anywhere in the world and have a job. It's pretty damn nice.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 10:15     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nurse---people tend to think a) not smart enough to be a doctor and b) sleeping with the doctors. Infuriating (and not true!).


You may be smart enough to be a doctor, but you lacked the ambition.


Unless you are a doctor, you also lacked the ambition to become one, correct?

I am not a nurse, nor am I doctor. I am not interested in school/training that can last a decade. Nothing wrong with that.


Nothing wrong with that, but it does say you did not have enough ambition to be a doctor. Just own it, nothing wrong with that.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 10:15     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nurse---people tend to think a) not smart enough to be a doctor and b) sleeping with the doctors. Infuriating (and not true!).


You may be smart enough to be a doctor, but you lacked the ambition.


No, I never wanted to see people for five minutes a day. I like taking care of people and helping them.
Yes, I usually prefer to see the nurse practitioner at my medical practice because I know that he/she will have time to talk to me and properly advise me while my doc will rush in and out.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2011 10:11     Subject: Re:Stereotypes and misconceptions associated with your job/career
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nurse---people tend to think a) not smart enough to be a doctor and b) sleeping with the doctors. Infuriating (and not true!).


You may be smart enough to be a doctor, but you lacked the ambition.


Unless you are a doctor, you also lacked the ambition to become one, correct?

I am not a nurse, nor am I doctor. I am not interested in school/training that can last a decade. Nothing wrong with that.