Anonymous
10/26/2016 10:25
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wanted to mention that as a cyclist who obeys traffic laws, rides single file and rides close to side of the road I still get harassed by motorists on MacArthur. I get honked at, spit on, and even have some motorists resort to using derogatory terminology to try to intimidate me. For the record, most motorists are tolerant and I appreciate and respect them for their tolerance. There is no reason why motorists and cyclists can't share the road. Just give us a couple of feet of distance when you pass and we'll both be fine. The entitlement factor is a double edged sword. I'm not asking for the entire road, I'm just asking to be treated like a human when I ride my bike.
I am sorry for your experiences but I don't think MacArthur is wide enough to share the road unfortunately. But it's your risk.
NP here.
If a lane is too narrow for a car to pass a bike in lane, and the road is only one lane in each direction, then the driver simply has to wait for a spot where it safe to cross the yellow line to pass. In that situation the cyclist should ride the center of the lane ("take the lane") to discourage unsafe in lane passes.
Personally I prefer avoiding roads like that, when they are posted at speed limits higher than 25MPH and have poor visibility, but I guess sometimes there are simply no good alternative routes. I do not ride much in MoCo (I live in NoVa) so I cannot speak much to this locale.
Anonymous
10/26/2016 10:17
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wanted to mention that as a cyclist who obeys traffic laws, rides single file and rides close to side of the road I still get harassed by motorists on MacArthur. I get honked at, spit on, and even have some motorists resort to using derogatory terminology to try to intimidate me. For the record, most motorists are tolerant and I appreciate and respect them for their tolerance. There is no reason why motorists and cyclists can't share the road. Just give us a couple of feet of distance when you pass and we'll both be fine. The entitlement factor is a double edged sword. I'm not asking for the entire road, I'm just asking to be treated like a human when I ride my bike.
I am sorry for your experiences but I don't think MacArthur is wide enough to share the road unfortunately. But it's your risk.
Anonymous
10/26/2016 09:37
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
I'm coming to this discussion very late, but I wanted to mention that as a cyclist who obeys traffic laws, rides single file and rides close to side of the road I still get harassed by motorists on MacArthur. I get honked at, spit on, and even have some motorists resort to using derogatory terminology to try to intimidate me. For the record, most motorists are tolerant and I appreciate and respect them for their tolerance. There is no reason why motorists and cyclists can't share the road. Just give us a couple of feet of distance when you pass and we'll both be fine. The entitlement factor is a double edged sword. I'm not asking for the entire road, I'm just asking to be treated like a human when I ride my bike.
Anonymous
04/03/2013 21:41
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is riding down the middle of the street going ten miles an hour under the post speed limit obeying traffic laws?
Not sure where you learned to drive, but they should have explained the "speed limit" is a minimum, not a maximum. You're welcome!
A person can be cited in Maryland for impeding the flow of traffic, including driving under the speed limit.
http://www.alanformanlaw.com/newsletters/traffic-law-duidwi/criminal-offense-of-impeding-the-flow-of-traffic/
Not applicable to cyclists. "There is authority that it is not intended for the statute to apply unless it is first shown that the vehicle was able to be going at the speed of the "normal" stream of traffic."
Again, as a pedestrian, I sometimes wish that slower peds were legally required to get out of my way. Then I put on my big girl pants and deal with the fact that the world was not arranged to make my life as convenient as possible. Same with cyclists who wish there were no peds on a MUP. And the same goes for drivers who wish everyone would drive 10 mph over the legal speed limit at all times.
Tough beans. Learn to deal.
Anonymous
04/03/2013 18:59
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is riding down the middle of the street going ten miles an hour under the post speed limit obeying traffic laws?
Not sure where you learned to drive, but they should have explained the "speed limit" is a minimum, not a maximum. You're welcome!
A person can be cited in Maryland for impeding the flow of traffic, including driving under the speed limit.
http://www.alanformanlaw.com/newsletters/traffic-law-duidwi/criminal-offense-of-impeding-the-flow-of-traffic/
Anonymous
04/03/2013 18:53
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How is riding down the middle of the street going ten miles an hour under the post speed limit obeying traffic laws?
Not sure where you learned to drive, but they should have explained the "speed limit" is a minimum, not a maximum. You're welcome!
Damn crazy biker lobby got it switched to a maximum instead of a minimum. Injustice!
Anonymous
04/03/2013 18:52
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
huh?!?! not
Anonymous
04/03/2013 18:35
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:How is riding down the middle of the street going ten miles an hour under the post speed limit obeying traffic laws?
Not sure where you learned to drive, but they should have explained the "speed limit" is a minimum, not a maximum. You're welcome!
Anonymous
04/03/2013 18:28
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
How is riding down the middle of the street going ten miles an hour under the post speed limit obeying traffic laws?
Anonymous
04/03/2013 18:24
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:ThatSmileyFaceGuy wrote:Anonymous wrote:ThatSmileyFaceGuy wrote:Things from the pocket guide for Maryland
Ride with traffic as close to the right side as possible.
Full lane use allowed when travelling the normal speed of traffic.
Use of bike lanes required when they are available unless turning, passing, or avioding hazards.
No more than two abrest.
So all you "law abiding" bikers need to be in the bike lane.
First off, you're wrong on the law. Second, I'll "obey all the laws" the second no driver exceeds the posted speed limit ever.
You guys (and by that I mean anyone who drives a car) have absolutely zero moral standing to be judging anyone's behavior. None whatsoever.
actually no I'm not :
Pocket guide to bicycle laws in DC / MD / VA
http://www.waba.org/resources/laws.php
Don't confuse this discussion with your "facts," Smiley.
I think I understand your confusion. The path that runs parallel to MacArthur Blvd is not a "bike lane"; it's a Multi-use path. Different animal.
Anonymous
04/03/2013 18:22
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:I have been driving on Macarthur for several years, and I have some sympathy for the bikers...but not much. Apparently (I didn't know this), the law says they cannot ride two abreast, they must go single file, if they are under the speed limit. This is just one of the rules the bikers break every day with impunity. As soon as they hit a stop light, they suddenly become "pedestrians" and the cross at the crosswalk, ride on the sidewalk, run stop signs...you name it. I can't shake the feeling that they are really just playing in the street, aren't they? They aren't going anywhere in particular, they are "exercising" in the street. So, a bike path is built, and now it's not good enough for them, it's too bumpy, they might have to stop etc. Selfish, whiny, entitled.
Actually, cyclists are just living their lives, doing what they like to do, and are complying with the law. Though it's a bit ironic that someone whining about it on DCUM is throwing around the "whining" charge.
Anonymous
04/03/2013 18:06
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They have a right to ride in the street. If they rode the path they would endanger pedestrians and the speed limit on the path is too low.
They suck period. Don't obey traffic laws, dont respect cars or even pedestrians and they are dangerous!
Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Anonymous
04/03/2013 16:06
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
I have been driving on Macarthur for several years, and I have some sympathy for the bikers...but not much. Apparently (I didn't know this), the law says they cannot ride two abreast, they must go single file, if they are under the speed limit. This is just one of the rules the bikers break every day with impunity. As soon as they hit a stop light, they suddenly become "pedestrians" and the cross at the crosswalk, ride on the sidewalk, run stop signs...you name it. I can't shake the feeling that they are really just playing in the street, aren't they? They aren't going anywhere in particular, they are "exercising" in the street. So, a bike path is built, and now it's not good enough for them, it's too bumpy, they might have to stop etc. Selfish, whiny, entitled.
Anonymous
10/24/2011 14:03
Subject: Re:Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
Anonymous wrote:It seems some of the car drivers from this thread have been taking out their aggression elsewhere.
Last Friday, Fort Hunt Patch reported on a chilling incident in which a driver on the George Washington Parkway sped by a group of cyclists and proceeded to slam on his brakes in front of them, one of which ended up under the car ....
http://dcist.com/2011/10/driver_slams_on_brakes_in_front_of.php
http://forthunt.patch.com/articles/driver-flees-scene-on-gw-parkway-leaving-injured-cyclist#c
Gold Cadillac strikes again!
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2011/10/24/cyclist-vs-driver-on-a-racially-charged-commute/
Anonymous
10/18/2011 09:02
Subject: Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD
ThatSmileyFaceGuy wrote:Anonymous wrote:ThatSmileyFaceGuy wrote:Things from the pocket guide for Maryland
Ride with traffic as close to the right side as possible.
Full lane use allowed when travelling the normal speed of traffic.
Use of bike lanes required when they are available unless turning, passing, or avioding hazards.
No more than two abrest.
So all you "law abiding" bikers need to be in the bike lane.
First off, you're wrong on the law. Second, I'll "obey all the laws" the second no driver exceeds the posted speed limit ever.
You guys (and by that I mean anyone who drives a car) have absolutely zero moral standing to be judging anyone's behavior. None whatsoever.
actually no I'm not :
Pocket guide to bicycle laws in DC / MD / VA
http://www.waba.org/resources/laws.php
Don't confuse this discussion with your "facts," Smiley.