Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 20:24     Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Most CEOs of Fortune 500 companies have degrees from state universities.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 19:42     Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:The point is, many successful people like Pres. Bush, Obama, CEOs, and others have become enormously successful in earning degrees and higher office without being labeled as IQ gifted.

have you checked out how many top successful executives of all kinds have advanced degrees from Ivy league or equlivalent schools? They do not need the label gifted.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 19:40     Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:The point is, many successful people like Pres. Bush, Obama, CEOs, and others have become enormously successful in earning degrees and higher office without being labeled as IQ gifted.

Really, they just gave them their Ivy degrees because they liked them?
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 17:48     Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
^^ weren't in it
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 17:46     Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
I'm sorry but those scores aren't really high enough. If people keep doing strenuous appeals with scores like that the limit keeps getting pushed down and when will it end?

I'm all for appealing if your WISC scores are much higher than the CogAt but yours really aren't. You have tried your best to stick up for your daughter. Why not make the best of gen Ed? Would you be this upset if you didn't have two older kids who were in it?
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 17:37     Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:The point is, many successful people like Pres. Bush, Obama, CEOs, and others have become enormously successful in earning degrees and higher office without being labeled as IQ gifted.


In fact, depending on your definition of success there are likely substantially more enormously successful people without high IQs, as any former valedictorian who finds himself working for a C-student can tell you.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 17:21     Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
The point is, many successful people like Pres. Bush, Obama, CEOs, and others have become enormously successful in earning degrees and higher office without being labeled as IQ gifted.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 17:16     Subject: Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
One with less than average scores became President. What's your point?
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 17:15     Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SKR, I would appeal. Sometimes the selection committee at the school feels you have "too many brights in the family" and they need to "share the AAP wealth" It seems like she qualifies, so I would appeal, or else move. Everyone in my family has an advanced degree -- we all would have qualified for GT. Thankfully, we (adults) did not go to school in this system. All of my children were in GT --older now. GL.


Thanks and to 13.16 in above as well.

I plan to go speak with the classroom teacher and get her candid opinion once more and see what best to do. Certainly May isn't going that great.


No they don't. Or AAP wouldn't have as many kids as it does. I think parents are more likely to think "too many brights in one family." AAP evaluators just look at files.


Also, the fact that someone has an advanced degree does not necessarily mean that that person would have qualified for GT. Lots of people with average and above average IQs earn advanced degrees.


Good point, one even became President!


Lots are CEOs of large corporations and in leadership positions of all kinds all over the world. More people are of average or above average IQ than are gifted and it does not stop them from being successful.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 17:08     Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SKR, I would appeal. Sometimes the selection committee at the school feels you have "too many brights in the family" and they need to "share the AAP wealth" It seems like she qualifies, so I would appeal, or else move. Everyone in my family has an advanced degree -- we all would have qualified for GT. Thankfully, we (adults) did not go to school in this system. All of my children were in GT --older now. GL.


Thanks and to 13.16 in above as well.

I plan to go speak with the classroom teacher and get her candid opinion once more and see what best to do. Certainly May isn't going that great.


No they don't. Or AAP wouldn't have as many kids as it does. I think parents are more likely to think "too many brights in one family." AAP evaluators just look at files.


Also, the fact that someone has an advanced degree does not necessarily mean that that person would have qualified for GT. Lots of people with average and above average IQs earn advanced degrees.


Good point, one even became President!
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 14:41     Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SKR, I would appeal. Sometimes the selection committee at the school feels you have "too many brights in the family" and they need to "share the AAP wealth" It seems like she qualifies, so I would appeal, or else move. Everyone in my family has an advanced degree -- we all would have qualified for GT. Thankfully, we (adults) did not go to school in this system. All of my children were in GT --older now. GL.


Thanks and to 13.16 in above as well.

I plan to go speak with the classroom teacher and get her candid opinion once more and see what best to do. Certainly May isn't going that great.


No they don't. Or AAP wouldn't have as many kids as it does. I think parents are more likely to think "too many brights in one family." AAP evaluators just look at files.


Also, the fact that someone has an advanced degree does not necessarily mean that that person would have qualified for GT. Lots of people with average and above average IQs earn advanced degrees.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 14:23     Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SKR, I would appeal. Sometimes the selection committee at the school feels you have "too many brights in the family" and they need to "share the AAP wealth" It seems like she qualifies, so I would appeal, or else move. Everyone in my family has an advanced degree -- we all would have qualified for GT. Thankfully, we (adults) did not go to school in this system. All of my children were in GT --older now. GL.


Thanks and to 13.16 in above as well.

I plan to go speak with the classroom teacher and get her candid opinion once more and see what best to do. Certainly May isn't going that great.


No they don't. Or AAP wouldn't have as many kids as it does. I think parents are more likely to think "too many brights in one family." AAP evaluators just look at files.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 14:16     Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PS If the WISC was in the parent referral file, consider getting a Stanford Binet for appeal.


Got it! Will give ita shot. Looks like Dahlgreen - http://drdianadahlgren.com/Home.aspx is the one to go to. Or could I just stick to the other psychologist who had tested her for WISC (for the sake of continuity)

SKR



I think you should go to Dahlgreen or somebody else other than your original one- if two independent testers got the same conclusion, that is more convincing.


Makes sense. I left her a message and will hope to hear from her soon.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 14:15     Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.


Got it! Will give ita shot. Looks like Dahlgreen - http://drdianadahlgren.com/Home.aspx is the one to go to. Or could I just stick to the other psychologist who had tested her for WISC (for the sake of continuity)

SKR



Dr. Dahlgren is one of the better psychologists in the area (she is on the list as a tester for many area private schools) and she also knows the AAP program very well. If she is available, I highly recommend going with her.

Thank you. I left her a message. Hope she has time.

SKR
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2013 14:13     Subject: Re:Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PS If the WISC was in the parent referral file, consider getting a Stanford Binet for appeal.


Got it! Will give ita shot. Looks like Dahlgreen - http://drdianadahlgren.com/Home.aspx is the one to go to. Or could I just stick to the other psychologist who had tested her for WISC (for the sake of continuity)

SKR



I think you should go to Dahlgreen or somebody else other than your original one- if two independent testers got the same conclusion, that is more convincing.