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Anonymous wrote:NP here. Perhaps this will help you resolve any dispute about Cornell admissions: http://admissions.cornell.edu/downloads/EnteringClassProfile.pdf . Cornell reports that it admitted 6600 of 34,400 (19% of applicants admitted). Of the 6600 admits, 3200 enrolled (9% of applicants enrolled).

Thanks for the correction/update. I clicked on the link and it came right up. I was close. My numbers were about five years old. I've noticed it hasn't changed much.

Anonymous wrote:How many of these GP college placements are due to sports recruitment? I would not want to send my son, who is not particularly interested in sports, there thinking they produce great scholars when in fact these kids are getting into these colleges mainly because of their athletic prowess. I was surprised when I looked at the "news" section of the GP website and didn't see anything about the students' academic or artistic accomplishments -- it's all about what the sports teams are doing.

If you are referring to the Cornell placement. Just an FYI my relative came from some magnet school for math and science in his home town. It don't think it was anything out of the ordinary. Not the athletic type at all. I always thought he was ADHD and pretty nerdy. That's just an FYI about an individual that got into a really good school. Speaking of all of this maybe these public magnet schools are the answers sometimes? I have always that that those comming from public school would have to work far to hard for that. That's just how I see it.

Anonymous wrote:How many of these GP college placements are due to sports recruitment? I would not want to send my son, who is not particularly interested in sports, there thinking they produce great scholars when in fact these kids are getting into these colleges mainly because of their athletic prowess. I was surprised when I looked at the "news" section of the GP website and didn't see anything about the students' academic or artistic accomplishments -- it's all about what the sports teams are doing.

That would really annoy me. My son has played most sports and getting pretty good at basketball but by no means worthy of any college placement. His academics will have to be his best negotiating tool. Good point about the favoritism on sports related placement. Totally unfair.

NP here. Perhaps this will help you resolve any dispute about Cornell admissions: http://admissions.cornell.edu/downloads/EnteringClassProfile.pdf . Cornell reports that it admitted 6600 of 34,400 (19% of applicants admitted). Of the 6600 admits, 3200 enrolled (9% of applicants enrolled).

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the list from the website.

Top Choices for Prep graduates from 2007-2009:
Georgetown University 22
University of Notre Dame 14
Boston College 13
University of Pennsylvania 9
University of Virginia 8
Cornell University 5
UNC at Chapel Hill 5
Stanford University 5
Tufts University 5
College of the Holy Cross 4
College of William & Mary 4
Duke University 3
Johns Hopkins University 3
Princeton University 3
Carnegie Mellon University 2
Harvard University 2

I know Amherst,Swathmore and Williams are being coded as THE most selective for getting in(outside of the Ivies) but there are a few on this list that are just as selective. Like OMG John's Hopkins, College of William and Mary and Cornell who receives about 37,000 applications and only selects around 2000 and nearly 1200 are able to attend. These places are extremely selective. These three? forget about it. If GP is placing one or more into these schools then I would say it has something working in its favor. Ok and lets face it. Your kid goes to GP and ends up at Georgetown where most of GP's graduates go, who's crying about that? Also you have public Ivies on this list like U of NC Chapel Hill. If this is the list for the matriculation of GP graduates then it is not bad at all. After having done some research on St. Albans and Sidwell I will admit they are a little bit elevated, mostly because of the notable alumni. GP is not far behind enough not mention them in the same sentence with the others. Come on now, GP is hanging in.

Does anyone have a comment on these honors programs at the Catholic High Schools? Seriously, they have put out to some Ivies as well.

Where did you get your stats? Cornell or JHU or W&M have admits rate under 5% (2000/37000)? The stats we are looking at in our college books put Cornell at about 25% and W&M higher (although maybe out of state is lower). Even Harvard and Princeton are at 9% and they are the lowest.

I am a huge Princeton Reveiw Fan. I study it pretty regularly. I also enjoy the www.collegeboard.com web site. Its pretty interesting. The (2000/37000) figure was for Cornell. I have a relative attending Cornell and everyone in the family went out on a mission to proove that he had beat more than 30,000 applicants to get in. Various family members got evidence from everywhere to make their point. Cornell is very selective.

You may want to study a little harder. US News reports that there were 6,800 admits out of 33,000 for a 21% acceptance rate at Cornell. JHU was at 25% last year. W&M was at 34%. Certainly selective but not the numbers you were citing.

How many of these GP college placements are due to sports recruitment? I would not want to send my son, who is not particularly interested in sports, there thinking they produce great scholars when in fact these kids are getting into these colleges mainly because of their athletic prowess. I was surprised when I looked at the "news" section of the GP website and didn't see anything about the students' academic or artistic accomplishments -- it's all about what the sports teams are doing.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the list from the website.

Top Choices for Prep graduates from 2007-2009:
Georgetown University 22
University of Notre Dame 14
Boston College 13
University of Pennsylvania 9
University of Virginia 8
Cornell University 5
UNC at Chapel Hill 5
Stanford University 5
Tufts University 5
College of the Holy Cross 4
College of William & Mary 4
Duke University 3
Johns Hopkins University 3
Princeton University 3
Carnegie Mellon University 2
Harvard University 2

I know Amherst,Swathmore and Williams are being coded as THE most selective for getting in(outside of the Ivies) but there are a few on this list that are just as selective. Like OMG John's Hopkins, College of William and Mary and Cornell who receives about 37,000 applications and only selects around 2000 and nearly 1200 are able to attend. These places are extremely selective. These three? forget about it. If GP is placing one or more into these schools then I would say it has something working in its favor. Ok and lets face it. Your kid goes to GP and ends up at Georgetown where most of GP's graduates go, who's crying about that? Also you have public Ivies on this list like U of NC Chapel Hill. If this is the list for the matriculation of GP graduates then it is not bad at all. After having done some research on St. Albans and Sidwell I will admit they are a little bit elevated, mostly because of the notable alumni. GP is not far behind enough not mention them in the same sentence with the others. Come on now, GP is hanging in.

Does anyone have a comment on these honors programs at the Catholic High Schools? Seriously, they have put out to some Ivies as well.

Where did you get your stats? Cornell or JHU or W&M have admits rate under 5% (2000/37000)? The stats we are looking at in our college books put Cornell at about 25% and W&M higher (although maybe out of state is lower). Even Harvard and Princeton are at 9% and they are the lowest.

I am a huge Princeton Reveiw Fan. I study it pretty regularly. I also enjoy the www.collegeboard.com web site. Its pretty interesting. The (2000/37000) figure was for Cornell. I have a relative attending Cornell and everyone in the family went out on a mission to proove that he had beat more than 30,000 applicants to get in. Various family members got evidence from everywhere to make their point. Cornell is very selective.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the list from the website.

Top Choices for Prep graduates from 2007-2009:
Georgetown University 22
University of Notre Dame 14
Boston College 13
University of Pennsylvania 9
University of Virginia 8
Cornell University 5
UNC at Chapel Hill 5
Stanford University 5
Tufts University 5
College of the Holy Cross 4
College of William & Mary 4
Duke University 3
Johns Hopkins University 3
Princeton University 3
Carnegie Mellon University 2
Harvard University 2

I know Amherst,Swathmore and Williams are being coded as THE most selective for getting in(outside of the Ivies) but there are a few on this list that are just as selective. Like OMG John's Hopkins, College of William and Mary and Cornell who receives about 37,000 applications and only selects around 2000 and nearly 1200 are able to attend. These places are extremely selective. These three? forget about it. If GP is placing one or more into these schools then I would say it has something working in its favor. Ok and lets face it. Your kid goes to GP and ends up at Georgetown where most of GP's graduates go, who's crying about that? Also you have public Ivies on this list like U of NC Chapel Hill. If this is the list for the matriculation of GP graduates then it is not bad at all. After having done some research on St. Albans and Sidwell I will admit they are a little bit elevated, mostly because of the notable alumni. GP is not far behind enough not mention them in the same sentence with the others. Come on now, GP is hanging in.

Does anyone have a comment on these honors programs at the Catholic High Schools? Seriously, they have put out to some Ivies as well.

Where did you get your stats? Cornell or JHU or W&M have admits rate under 5% (2000/37000)? The stats we are looking at in our college books put Cornell at about 25% and W&M higher (although maybe out of state is lower). Even Harvard and Princeton are at 9% and they are the lowest.

There is alot of false representation as to which of this group of schools is best academically. Making claims like "GP is just not on the same map as Potomac (or others)" is just plain wrong. Here are the facts of the statistical rankings of average SATs at some of the mentioned schools:
1. Sidwell Friends
2. St. Albans
3. Potomac
4. Georgetown Prep
5. Landon
Here is the key fact. The "spread" that separates the no.1 school from the no. 5 school is only 55 points. You are pissing and moaning and arguing over which one is better, and the realty is that at least among these five, a very small margin separates the.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some illusions being promoted. GP may be a great school. Sending half of its kids to GT, BC and ND is certainly terrific. But GP is not in the same league academically as STA, Sidwell or Potomac. Not even close. Those schools probably send a third of their kids to the Ivies and their equivalents such as Stanford and Little Three. Let's get real. GP has been around a long time and a has terrific traditions that attract many families. But those qualities to not place it in the same league as the above schools in terms of academics. Sports is obviously a different matter. Now GP can be legitimately criticized for having failed to improve its academic standing despite its money and the growth in MC over the last 20 years as a PP noted.

Misleading. STA and Sidwell's impressive college admissions rosters are driven largely by parental legacies (i.e., there are more ivy alum parents at those schools than at any other schools south of Choate). Potomac doesn't send their kids to more ivies than GP or any other top high school in the region--not sure why they're even in the conversation. In short, you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think STA or SF will give your child a better shot to get into an ivy than GP or Landon. If you yourself don't already have an ivy legacy, your son is going to be on equal footing, so it's best to choose the right match for him b/c it'll be up to him (not the prep school) to get into the college of his choice.

There are several ways of getting into an Ivy, you can be the smartest person in your class from a dog's school and get in, have an Ivy legacy, graduate from a school that matriculates there along with some super grades or have wealthy parents with great connections. A parent has to know their child's strengths and help them navigate in that direction. Yes we can always start with the school but it has to be a school that will not only matriculate to an IVY, the top 3 or sister 7 or public Ivy, however, the choice has to be one that the child can develop into the best student possible. More plainly, a good student at a great school with wonderful opportunities to excel will help. STA has so many avenues for helping their students succeed. GP may be a perfect fit for someone which will allow him to move up in student government become well liked by all including perform well academically and create the same end for himself. So I agree choosing the school that is the best fit for your son is a way to get them there. Let me be clear choose from the limited list. You know like, GP,STA,Sidwell, Gonzaga and Landon. Any boy comming from these four schools can get into an Ivy if that is what they really want to do.

Anonymous wrote:Here is the list from the website.

Top Choices for Prep graduates from 2007-2009:
Georgetown University 22
University of Notre Dame 14
Boston College 13
University of Pennsylvania 9
University of Virginia 8
Cornell University 5
UNC at Chapel Hill 5
Stanford University 5
Tufts University 5
College of the Holy Cross 4
College of William & Mary 4
Duke University 3
Johns Hopkins University 3
Princeton University 3
Carnegie Mellon University 2
Harvard University 2

I know Amherst,Swathmore and Williams are being coded as THE most selective for getting in(outside of the Ivies) but there are a few on this list that are just as selective. Like OMG John's Hopkins, College of William and Mary and Cornell who receives about 37,000 applications and only selects around 2000 and nearly 1200 are able to attend. These places are extremely selective. These three? forget about it. If GP is placing one or more into these schools then I would say it has something working in its favor. Ok and lets face it. Your kid goes to GP and ends up at Georgetown where most of GP's graduates go, who's crying about that? Also you have public Ivies on this list like U of NC Chapel Hill. If this is the list for the matriculation of GP graduates then it is not bad at all. After having done some research on St. Albans and Sidwell I will admit they are a little bit elevated, mostly because of the notable alumni. GP is not far behind enough not mention them in the same sentence with the others. Come on now, GP is hanging in.

Does anyone have a comment on these honors programs at the Catholic High Schools? Seriously, they have put out to some Ivies as well.

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