Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about rowing, how do kids do trying to get recruited to women's rowing teams? D1 or high academic D3.

Get your ERG times and send them to the coach. Fill out questionnaire.

Doesn't quite tell me about what it takes though. Besides erg score. We get that. Looking for other stats besides erg.

Anonymous wrote:What about rowing, how do kids do trying to get recruited to women's rowing teams? D1 or high academic D3.

Get your ERG times and send them to the coach. Fill out questionnaire.

What about rowing, how do kids do trying to get recruited to women's rowing teams? D1 or high academic D3.

Anonymous wrote:Private
35 act
School didn’t calculate gpa but it was probably 3.6-ish
Track - long sprints

Princeton

Several coaches said finding sprinters is much harder than distance runners.

Awesome. Congrats on Heps performance today.

Anonymous wrote:Related note: Was told by one high academic D3 (can't recall if it was MIT, CMU, or Chicago) that they'd be admitted to a certain school/major, so path would be somewhat pre-selected by the school.

Had to be CMU. My kid was recruited by the other two and had zero restrictions. MIT doesn’t even consider majors since everyone enters the same.

Anonymous wrote:Related note: Was told by one high academic D3 (can't recall if it was MIT, CMU, or Chicago) that they'd be admitted to a certain school/major, so path would be somewhat pre-selected by the school.

CMU

Private
35 act
School didn’t calculate gpa but it was probably 3.6-ish
Track - long sprints

Princeton

Several coaches said finding sprinters is much harder than distance runners.

Related note: Was told by one high academic D3 (can't recall if it was MIT, CMU, or Chicago) that they'd be admitted to a certain school/major, so path would be somewhat pre-selected by the school.

Anonymous wrote:Back to the question at hand:

Non HYP Ivy
Public School in Large Metro Area
4.7 W GPA, high rigor (maybe 3.8 UW?)
1480 SAT
Other ECs too, but nothing "amazing" besides a lot of athletic accolades.
Good application, we assume (essays, LORs)
Swim

In swim, there are definitely kids who do not get recruited at this school due to academics. DC knew two. Coach was hopeful, but admissions said SAT and/or grades did not pass muster. Both ended up at great state universities that are more competitive in swimming and are doing great.

Swimmers are expected to be well within that one standard deviation. XC, tennis, golf expectations are higher than fb and bb. We've found that coaches will be blunt in what is required for the SAT score. That can be stressful.

Back to the question at hand:

Non HYP Ivy
Public School in Large Metro Area
4.7 W GPA, high rigor (maybe 3.8 UW?)
1480 SAT
Other ECs too, but nothing "amazing" besides a lot of athletic accolades.
Good application, we assume (essays, LORs)
Swim

In swim, there are definitely kids who do not get recruited at this school due to academics. DC knew two. Coach was hopeful, but admissions said SAT and/or grades did not pass muster. Both ended up at great state universities that are more competitive in swimming and are doing great.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the point of this thread is to convince people on this forum that athletes have to meet similar admissions standards to non-athletes and that is just not the case. What matters is
1. your athletic ability (however the coach of your sport is defining that)
2. GPA and SAT, inversely correlated to your athletic ability (i.e. better athletic ability means lower GPA/SAT requirement).
This is it. This is the entire formula and anyone who has gone through the process knows it.

With some luck and timing thrown in if you're talking about a sport that has multiple positions. For example, for football, did they have several star WRs just graduate? Do they lack depth in the QB lineup? Do they need more size on the line that year, or do they need someone who is faster? Same with baseball.

Definitely true, and that's a part of 1 - "ability" means the time/stats/positions they are looking for that year. There's no secret or magic to it, the coaches are immediately upfront with the kids who reach out to them.

Anonymous wrote:It seems that the point of this thread is to convince people on this forum that athletes have to meet similar admissions standards to non-athletes and that is just not the case. What matters is
1. your athletic ability (however the coach of your sport is defining that)
2. GPA and SAT, inversely correlated to your athletic ability (i.e. better athletic ability means lower GPA/SAT requirement).
This is it. This is the entire formula and anyone who has gone through the process knows it.

With some luck and timing thrown in if you're talking about a sport that has multiple positions. For example, for football, did they have several star WRs just graduate? Do they lack depth in the QB lineup? Do they need more size on the line that year, or do they need someone who is faster? Same with baseball.

Football, won multiple state championships in largest HS division, starter but shared time with another player, academic stats similar to everyone else's posted here - 3.9, multiple APs, 95th percentile standardized test scores.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivy recruiting standards for track are the same or very close to the big state schools. Penn, Princeton and Harvard have strong runners and great coaching. The downside to the Ivies is no athletic money but you get admission to the Ivy.

Most ivies will take some runners who are 4:19, 9:15 with high stats to balance 4:07-4:13 runners. These slower runners will typically max out the academic index, so 4.0 max rigor plus sat 1550+.

It's definitely a moving target and idiosyncratic. I think the bottom line is that if your kid hits the recruiting standards that are on the website, and are at the 25% for their SAT distribution you probably have a very good chance of getting in. Things change of course, standards change every year. For instance, in throws Cornell, Columbia and Princeton got a lot of throwers that were the top high school throwers in the country and they have been performing well in NCAA. So their standards are now higher than a lot of the large state school. Ironically, most of the boys were from NJ and they were all really smart kids. Really smart. Valedictorians, etc.

Anonymous wrote:The Ivy recruiting standards for track are the same or very close to the big state schools. Penn, Princeton and Harvard have strong runners and great coaching. The downside to the Ivies is no athletic money but you get admission to the Ivy.

Most ivies will take some runners who are 4:19, 9:15 with high stats to balance 4:07-4:13 runners. These slower runners will typically max out the academic index, so 4.0 max rigor plus sat 1550+.