Anonymous
Post 03/03/2026 01:23     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Eunice Kennedy wound up the most functional with the best relationship of all the Kennedy kids. I've never seen any reports that Sargent cheated on her, and they were married for almost 60 years (until Eunice died). Their corner of the family was also the one most dedicated to public service, inspired by Eunice's close relationship with her sister Rosemary, who had an intellectual disability and was also given a lobotomy as treatment. What the Shriver's did with the Special Olympics is the kind of truly meaningful legacy that a lot of rich people claim to want but very few ever actually produce. The only similar example I can think of is the Carters and Habitat for Humanity. But the Carters were not born wealthy -- Jimmy's family was essentially middle class, but in a very poor area.

One reason I found it so sad when everything came out about Schwarzenegger is that I really feel like Maria and the other Shriver kids/grandkids are among the most functional of the whole Kennedy clan, and it was really sad to see more of that dysfunction in that side of the family. As someone from a large and sprawling, and dysfunctional, family, I guess I'd been inspired by what Eunice and Sargent did and was sad when Maria's family wound up with some of the same problems that plagued many of her cousins, aunts, and uncles.


Because of her family background (and her own successes), Maria Shriver unfortunately was a target for a social climber and a narcissist like Schwarzenegger.


I immediately thought of Belle Burden when I read this sentence, reading her memoir now.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 23:50     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:I never understood her appeal as a fashion icon. She lived in NYC where many, many women are fashionable and effortlessly chic.


Her skin was luminous perfection, she wore almost no makeup, her hair was glorious, she had beautiful teeth and a regal nose, and she was slender yet curvy and six feet tall. She was apparently very funny and charming and magnetic. It sounds like there was reason.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 23:24     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:I never understood her appeal as a fashion icon. She lived in NYC where many, many women are fashionable and effortlessly chic.


Well, Calvin Klein, the most successful popular designer at the time, did. So maybe your opinion is idk, worthless?
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 22:47     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never understood her appeal as a fashion icon. She lived in NYC where many, many women are fashionable and effortlessly chic.


+1. I wonder if it’s an age thing. People seem crazier for her than after she got married.


+2

She was chic, but not that chic. She was pretty and there were lots of beautiful chic women in NYC.

The fascination with her is because she died in a tragic plane crash that shouldn’t have happened. He was just stupid and reckless.

Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 22:45     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:I never understood her appeal as a fashion icon. She lived in NYC where many, many women are fashionable and effortlessly chic.


None of those other fashionable women in NYC married JFK Jr. They were unknown. As Carolyn herself might have been had she never married him.

Though I don't know. I think it's highly likely that if she had not married JFK Jr, she would have continued to ascend in fashion. Her rise at Calvin Klein was pretty meteoric, and she was extremely close to Narciso Rodriguez when he launched his label. It's very easy to imagine that if she had ditched JFK Jr. and focused on her career, she'd now be very high up either at a major label or at a magazine. Not because she's the most stylish woman who ever lived, but because she married great personal style to ambition and an uncanny understanding of the industry and the zeitgeist. I don't think women like Carolyn are a dime a dozen. She was unique among NYC fashion people even before John.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 22:39     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:I never understood her appeal as a fashion icon. She lived in NYC where many, many women are fashionable and effortlessly chic.


+1. I wonder if it’s an age thing. People seem crazier for her than after she got married.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 22:19     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
She was iconic. Just stunning. I don’t think she “bagged” him. He was enamored and chose her.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 22:09     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:I find today's obsession with them crazy.

However, I do remember where I was when I found out they got married and when they crashed.


Same on all of it. I honestly don’t understand the fascination today. The Kennedys were a terrible family. The wives, including Carolyn, knew what they were getting into and married in anyway. And what great love story between John and Carolyn? A couple of self absorbed druggie cheaters. The powerful and pretty get a lot of undeserved adulation.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 22:06     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:Daryl Hannah was actually raised in considerably more wealth than JFK, Jr. or Carolyn Bessette. Darryl's stepfather is Jerrold Wexler, who was a billionaire businessman in Chicago that made a massive fortune in real estate.



The rumor at the time was that Jackie hated Daryl Hannah.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 21:51     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
I never understood her appeal as a fashion icon. She lived in NYC where many, many women are fashionable and effortlessly chic.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 20:28     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t he date Daryl Hannah? She was obviously his type.


I got all like woah! When I found out the actress who played Daryl is Mariel Hemingway's daughter IRL

The look was different for the actress but her demeanor and cadence and tone of speech was exactly spot-on perfect

All the posts somehow keep referencing DH for Splash and 50 foot woman

But I really remember her from the TV movie Paper Dolls with Alexandra Paul,Summer Lovers, and Wall Street

Daryl Hannah was from a well educated background, in another incarnation of neurodivergence she might have been an actress like Cameron Diaz

Daryl Hannah was also from a rich background.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 20:02     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Eunice Kennedy wound up the most functional with the best relationship of all the Kennedy kids. I've never seen any reports that Sargent cheated on her, and they were married for almost 60 years (until Eunice died). Their corner of the family was also the one most dedicated to public service, inspired by Eunice's close relationship with her sister Rosemary, who had an intellectual disability and was also given a lobotomy as treatment. What the Shriver's did with the Special Olympics is the kind of truly meaningful legacy that a lot of rich people claim to want but very few ever actually produce. The only similar example I can think of is the Carters and Habitat for Humanity. But the Carters were not born wealthy -- Jimmy's family was essentially middle class, but in a very poor area.

One reason I found it so sad when everything came out about Schwarzenegger is that I really feel like Maria and the other Shriver kids/grandkids are among the most functional of the whole Kennedy clan, and it was really sad to see more of that dysfunction in that side of the family. As someone from a large and sprawling, and dysfunctional, family, I guess I'd been inspired by what Eunice and Sargent did and was sad when Maria's family wound up with some of the same problems that plagued many of her cousins, aunts, and uncles.


Because of her family background (and her own successes), Maria Shriver unfortunately was a target for a social climber and a narcissist like Schwarzenegger.


+1
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:51     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:I think Eunice Kennedy wound up the most functional with the best relationship of all the Kennedy kids. I've never seen any reports that Sargent cheated on her, and they were married for almost 60 years (until Eunice died). Their corner of the family was also the one most dedicated to public service, inspired by Eunice's close relationship with her sister Rosemary, who had an intellectual disability and was also given a lobotomy as treatment. What the Shriver's did with the Special Olympics is the kind of truly meaningful legacy that a lot of rich people claim to want but very few ever actually produce. The only similar example I can think of is the Carters and Habitat for Humanity. But the Carters were not born wealthy -- Jimmy's family was essentially middle class, but in a very poor area.

One reason I found it so sad when everything came out about Schwarzenegger is that I really feel like Maria and the other Shriver kids/grandkids are among the most functional of the whole Kennedy clan, and it was really sad to see more of that dysfunction in that side of the family. As someone from a large and sprawling, and dysfunctional, family, I guess I'd been inspired by what Eunice and Sargent did and was sad when Maria's family wound up with some of the same problems that plagued many of her cousins, aunts, and uncles.


Because of her family background (and her own successes), Maria Shriver unfortunately was a target for a social climber and a narcissist like Schwarzenegger.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 13:13     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
I think Eunice Kennedy wound up the most functional with the best relationship of all the Kennedy kids. I've never seen any reports that Sargent cheated on her, and they were married for almost 60 years (until Eunice died). Their corner of the family was also the one most dedicated to public service, inspired by Eunice's close relationship with her sister Rosemary, who had an intellectual disability and was also given a lobotomy as treatment. What the Shriver's did with the Special Olympics is the kind of truly meaningful legacy that a lot of rich people claim to want but very few ever actually produce. The only similar example I can think of is the Carters and Habitat for Humanity. But the Carters were not born wealthy -- Jimmy's family was essentially middle class, but in a very poor area.

One reason I found it so sad when everything came out about Schwarzenegger is that I really feel like Maria and the other Shriver kids/grandkids are among the most functional of the whole Kennedy clan, and it was really sad to see more of that dysfunction in that side of the family. As someone from a large and sprawling, and dysfunctional, family, I guess I'd been inspired by what Eunice and Sargent did and was sad when Maria's family wound up with some of the same problems that plagued many of her cousins, aunts, and uncles.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 13:00     Subject: How did CBK bag JFK jr?
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t he date Daryl Hannah? She was obviously his type.


Yes, wish he would have stayed with her.