Anonymous
02/16/2026 16:17
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was not a love story.
Can you elaborate on this?
NP. They fought a lot and his hubris resulted in her death and sibling's death.
np Read the book 'Ask not" The Kennedy men and the women they destroyed. None of the Kennedy men come out looking good
Anonymous
02/16/2026 16:16
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how anyone sees this as a love story. It was toxic AF.
+1 Maybe around the time of the wedding and shortly after, when they were gorgeous, glamorous, and seemed happy. There did seem to be far more toxicity than good times though. Agree with those that think it wouldn't have lasted, and that neither of those two should be seen as aspirational beyond some superficial attributes.
Their relationship was far too volatile pre-marriage to have apositive outcome. Off and on, several breakups, physical fights. They never should have married in the first place. The fact that he only got serious then proposed less than a year after Jackie's death suggests he made an emotional decision to try to grow up the way his mom had wished.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 16:12
Subject: Re:Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why pilots are allowed to fly at night if they aren't instrument certified, or whatever the right term is. If you're flying over the ocean or in bad weather, how can you rely on visual cues at night? Are accidents like this rare?
Most pilots in training don't take that risk. The problem is he did.
Right. It's not like they were going to physically prevent him from going. It was a judgment call, and a poor one on his part. Visibility was fine at altitude but not upon descent. They should have waited and left at sunrise the next morning.
From the post-accident report:
One pilot, referenced in the report, said that visibility was unrestricted at 14,000 feet, but as he began his descent toward Nantucket over Martha's Vineyard, he looked down and, "…there was nothing to see. There was no horizon and no light...I turned left toward Martha's Vineyard to see if it was visible but could see no lights of any kind nor any evidence of the island…I thought the island might (have) suffered a power failure."
Anonymous
02/16/2026 16:06
Subject: Re:Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why pilots are allowed to fly at night if they aren't instrument certified, or whatever the right term is. If you're flying over the ocean or in bad weather, how can you rely on visual cues at night? Are accidents like this rare?
Most pilots in training don't take that risk. The problem is he did.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 16:05
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how anyone sees this as a love story. It was toxic AF.
+1 Maybe around the time of the wedding and shortly after, when they were gorgeous, glamorous, and seemed happy. There did seem to be far more toxicity than good times though. Agree with those that think it wouldn't have lasted, and that neither of those two should be seen as aspirational beyond some superficial attributes.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 16:02
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:John Jr. was the best-looking Kennedy in the family, imho. Also better looking than the Bouviers.
His grandfather Bouvier was VERY handsome as a young man. A drunk, of course he quickly lost his good looks. There is a resemblance.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/71424344074302349/
"Black Jack"? Yes, also has the dark handsome good looks.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:46
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I tried to watch this but found it super boring. And I’m the target demographic.
They might as well be cardboard cutouts, nothing resembling the flesh and blood humans. They're gorgeous, that's all.
They were also, rich. Which apparently enough for stupidity to be seen as a tragedy.
If they had been poor, people here would n’t remember their names.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:44
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
I don’t know how anyone sees this as a love story. It was toxic AF.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:43
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:John Jr. was the best-looking Kennedy in the family, imho. Also better looking than the Bouviers.
His grandfather Bouvier was VERY handsome as a young man. A drunk, of course he quickly lost his good looks. There is a resemblance.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/71424344074302349/
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:39
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
John Jr. was the best-looking Kennedy in the family, imho. Also better looking than the Bouviers.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:38
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m obsessed with JFk Jr and Carolyn Bassette so really excited for this!
Stop romanticizing them. She had a serious drug problem and it was only a matter of time before they were divorced.
His hubris killed all three on the plane because he was not certified for night flying.
There is no evidence she had a serious drug problem. None. There is gossip she did cocaine recreationally with her fashion world friends, shocking I know in the 80s and 90s. But she was almost certainly taking prescription meds for anxiety and depression in her final years.
I agree, idk why rumors persist that she was a raging drug addict. Heroin chic was "in" when she lived in NYC, and there were certainly plenty of people addicted to drugs who looked ill. Carolyn presented as polished and slim but not underweight until the day she tragically died. Maybe she dabbled but I doubt she was a drug addict.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:37
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Carolyn was a very pretty woman but I never understood the hype behind her personal style.
I loved her style, still do. She was the perfect vehicle for it too, willowy icy blonde, though I thought she was far more gorgeous before her makeover. There would have been hype surrounding anyone who married the "prince."
She did the lingerie wedding dress early in the trend.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:33
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m obsessed with JFk Jr and Carolyn Bassette so really excited for this!
Stop romanticizing them. She had a serious drug problem and it was only a matter of time before they were divorced.
His hubris killed all three on the plane because he was not certified for night flying.
There is no evidence she had a serious drug problem. None. There is gossip she did cocaine recreationally with her fashion world friends, shocking I know in the 80s and 90s. But she was almost certainly taking prescription meds for anxiety and depression in her final years.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:30
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was always a womanizer, even if he made an effort to tamp it down in the early years of his marriage. Someone made a timeline, with another poster responding there were a lot more 'one-offs' that needed to be added.
In 1991 John dated Daryl. Julie, and possibly Carolyn
In 1992 John dated Julie, Daryl, and Carolyn.
In 1993 John dated Daryl and Carolyn
In 1994, John dated Daryl, Carolyn, Julie, and had a one night stand with a porn star.
In 1995 John dated Carolyn, but 'kept in touch with Julie."
In 1996 John and Carolyn become engaged, then married. John stays in touch with Julie
In summer 1998, John is seeing Julie again according to her friend circle. John is married to Carolyn.
In fall 1998 Carolyn begins her emotional affair.
In Winter 1998- 1999 Carolyn stops sleeping with John.
In July 1999, Julie Baker is seen late at night and again at breakfast with John at the Stanhope Hotel.
When did he date Christina Haag?
85-90. As a PP mentioned, Christina was the only one both mother and sister liked. Both were snobs about educational pedigree, which was a strike against Carolyn. Of course John cheated on Christina regularly, including with Daryl Hannah, so that pre-dates the timeline given here.
Anonymous
02/16/2026 15:29
Subject: Love Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassette
Anonymous wrote:I’m obsessed with JFk Jr and Carolyn Bassette so really excited for this!
Stop romanticizing them. She had a serious drug problem and it was only a matter of time before they were divorced.
His hubris killed all three on the plane because he was not certified for night flying.