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https://people.com/caroline-kennedys-daughter-tatiana-schlossberg-reveals-terminal-cancer-diagnosis-11855177

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry," she added.

"Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it," said the mom of two."

This part didn’t land well with me. It sounds extremely dysfunctional to spend your “whole life” trying to be the good girl, protecting your mom, and not make her angry. I get that to some extent, we’re all like that and it’s human nature, but for it to be such a big part of her, this was sad to me. To grow up in fear of “adding to the tragedy” is such a heavy burden.

This poor family.

Mmm, it’s pretty typical for the oldest daughter.

NP. It is, but it’s extremely dysfunctional nevertheless.

p.s.: I’m rooting for her.

She isn’t the elder daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

Exactly. Her essay was powerful and full of emotion. If anyone one of the DCUM posters had written the same essay, my reaction would have been the same. I can’t believe the lack of understanding and empathy expressed throughout this thread. Some posts were so vitriolic that Jeff had to go on a deletion binge. If you cannot find empathy for this woman and her family, imagine it was your sister going through this, would your response be, so what, a lot of young people die. SMH.

The only reason she has a platform is because "Kennedy."

I don’t think that is true. She is a gifted writer who beautifully captured a tragic situation. Similar to When Breath Becomes Air, or the Modern Love column about buying a couch when dying of cancer (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/14/style/modern-love-podcast-kate-winslet.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

Exactly. Her essay was powerful and full of emotion. If anyone one of the DCUM posters had written the same essay, my reaction would have been the same. I can’t believe the lack of understanding and empathy expressed throughout this thread. Some posts were so vitriolic that Jeff had to go on a deletion binge. If you cannot find empathy for this woman and her family, imagine it was your sister going through this, would your response be, so what, a lot of young people die. SMH.

Indeed! People have become so cruel. Didn't everyone's mom teach them if they can't say something nice about a person ...don't say anything at all.

+1. Some of your kids are going to be embarrassed one day about how nasty you are online. It was a beautiful essay by a dying woman sharing her experience with the world.

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Anonymous wrote:

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https://people.com/caroline-kennedys-daughter-tatiana-schlossberg-reveals-terminal-cancer-diagnosis-11855177

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry," she added.

"Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it," said the mom of two."

This part didn’t land well with me. It sounds extremely dysfunctional to spend your “whole life” trying to be the good girl, protecting your mom, and not make her angry. I get that to some extent, we’re all like that and it’s human nature, but for it to be such a big part of her, this was sad to me. To grow up in fear of “adding to the tragedy” is such a heavy burden.

This poor family.

Mmm, it’s pretty typical for the oldest daughter.

NP. It is, but it’s extremely dysfunctional nevertheless.

p.s.: I’m rooting for her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

Exactly. Her essay was powerful and full of emotion. If anyone one of the DCUM posters had written the same essay, my reaction would have been the same. I can’t believe the lack of understanding and empathy expressed throughout this thread. Some posts were so vitriolic that Jeff had to go on a deletion binge. If you cannot find empathy for this woman and her family, imagine it was your sister going through this, would your response be, so what, a lot of young people die. SMH.

Indeed! People have become so cruel. Didn't everyone's mom teach them if they can't say something nice about a person ...don't say anything at all.

it's the fact that she's from a democratic family. People just can't be empathetic towards someone of a different party.

I am a mother to two young children and I was incredibly empathetic for her for the first part of the article. She is an incredible writer. However, it was such a turnoff one she took it in a hyper political direction that I wasn't able to finish it. I wish her the best.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

Exactly. Her essay was powerful and full of emotion. If anyone one of the DCUM posters had written the same essay, my reaction would have been the same. I can’t believe the lack of understanding and empathy expressed throughout this thread. Some posts were so vitriolic that Jeff had to go on a deletion binge. If you cannot find empathy for this woman and her family, imagine it was your sister going through this, would your response be, so what, a lot of young people die. SMH.

The only reason she has a platform is because "Kennedy."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

Exactly. Her essay was powerful and full of emotion. If anyone one of the DCUM posters had written the same essay, my reaction would have been the same. I can’t believe the lack of understanding and empathy expressed throughout this thread. Some posts were so vitriolic that Jeff had to go on a deletion binge. If you cannot find empathy for this woman and her family, imagine it was your sister going through this, would your response be, so what, a lot of young people die. SMH.

Indeed! People have become so cruel. Didn't everyone's mom teach them if they can't say something nice about a person ...don't say anything at all.

it's the fact that she's from a democratic family. People just can't be empathetic towards someone of a different party.

Too many bots are ruining real civil discourse.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

Exactly. Her essay was powerful and full of emotion. If anyone one of the DCUM posters had written the same essay, my reaction would have been the same. I can’t believe the lack of understanding and empathy expressed throughout this thread. Some posts were so vitriolic that Jeff had to go on a deletion binge. If you cannot find empathy for this woman and her family, imagine it was your sister going through this, would your response be, so what, a lot of young people die. SMH.

Indeed! People have become so cruel. Didn't everyone's mom teach them if they can't say something nice about a person ...don't say anything at all.

it's the fact that she's from a democratic family. People just can't be empathetic towards someone of a different party.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

Exactly. Her essay was powerful and full of emotion. If anyone one of the DCUM posters had written the same essay, my reaction would have been the same. I can’t believe the lack of understanding and empathy expressed throughout this thread. Some posts were so vitriolic that Jeff had to go on a deletion binge. If you cannot find empathy for this woman and her family, imagine it was your sister going through this, would your response be, so what, a lot of young people die. SMH.

Indeed! People have become so cruel. Didn't everyone's mom teach them if they can't say something nice about a person ...don't say anything at all.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

Exactly. Her essay was powerful and full of emotion. If anyone one of the DCUM posters had written the same essay, my reaction would have been the same. I can’t believe the lack of understanding and empathy expressed throughout this thread. Some posts were so vitriolic that Jeff had to go on a deletion binge. If you cannot find empathy for this woman and her family, imagine it was your sister going through this, would your response be, so what, a lot of young people die. SMH.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

+1. Literally no one is saying “oh what a tragedy because she’s [wealthy, a Kennedy, went to an Ivy].” It’s a tragedy because she young and has young kids.

You know she’d rather be dirt poor, u educated and have her health. Health is the ultimate “privilege”.

+1000 Some of you all are cruel. People are trying to criticize a dying woman telling a personal story for being a nepo baby, for having the temerity to criticize her cousin (when nearly everyone with a brain thinks RFK Jr is a disgrace to our nation's public health system). She's trying to make the world better off for the kids she won't be around to see start elementary school by explaining the problems she see with health care and public policy towards medical research, as a woman dying in the USA.

I don't even think she counts as a nepo baby! Just another example of Gen X and Boomers using words they hear from millennials and zoomers and not using them correctly.

Her brother, Jack, is a nepo baby. Running for office and capitalizing on family connections.

Tatiana and Rose are not nepo babies. I believe Rose is a movie producer and Tatiana has made a living as a journalist and author...are they just not supposed to work at all? They live out of the public eye; I recall seeing announcements when both girls got married but I didn't know Tatiana had children until I saw a pic of Caroline and Jack with one of them over the summer.

I applaud her for her career, short as it was, writing about things that mattered and, as you said, trying to make the world better for children who will barely remember her. This would all be sad and worthy of empathy whether she was a Kennedy or some random woman who grew up in BFE, Iowa.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

+1. Literally no one is saying “oh what a tragedy because she’s [wealthy, a Kennedy, went to an Ivy].” It’s a tragedy because she young and has young kids.

You know she’d rather be dirt poor, u educated and have her health. Health is the ultimate “privilege”.

I agree--it's terrible for anybody to go through this, Kennedy or not. But I do feel an incredible amount of sadness for her mother. Her father, her brother, her daughter--no one should have to deal with many tragedies in one lifetime.

Same. I think her stories about her brother and sister were very sweet (and I like Jack, even if he's an online troll, but the bit about him calling every doctor in NY to ask if a half match would be better was cute) but the people I feel worst for in all of this are Ed and Caroline. No one should have to bury a child, certainly not a woman who has already buried her entire family of origin, and publicly at that.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

+1. Literally no one is saying “oh what a tragedy because she’s [wealthy, a Kennedy, went to an Ivy].” It’s a tragedy because she young and has young kids.

You know she’d rather be dirt poor, u educated and have her health. Health is the ultimate “privilege”.

I agree--it's terrible for anybody to go through this, Kennedy or not. But I do feel an incredible amount of sadness for her mother. Her father, her brother, her daughter--no one should have to deal with many tragedies in one lifetime.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so terrible and awfully sad for the kids she’s leaving behind. But, I don’t get the level/amount of remorse people can have for celebrities like the Kennedy family, extreme wealth, fame, and nepotism. I just can’t.

The lack of empathy on this thread is bizarre. Some of you are more worried about Bobby Kennedy having to weather two paragraphs of criticism than you are about the children who will be left without a mother, and the rest of you are trying to do this noble thing where you "just don't understand the amount of sympathy for the Kennedy family."

People don't feel sorry for her because she's a Kennedy. People feel sorry for her, as they would any woman, who was cut down in the prime of her life leaving behind two small children.

+1. Literally no one is saying “oh what a tragedy because she’s [wealthy, a Kennedy, went to an Ivy].” It’s a tragedy because she young and has young kids.

You know she’d rather be dirt poor, u educated and have her health. Health is the ultimate “privilege”.

+1000 Some of you all are cruel. People are trying to criticize a dying woman telling a personal story for being a nepo baby, for having the temerity to criticize her cousin (when nearly everyone with a brain thinks RFK Jr is a disgrace to our nation's public health system). She's trying to make the world better off for the kids she won't be around to see start elementary school by explaining the problems she see with health care and public policy towards medical research, as a woman dying in the USA.

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Anonymous wrote:Family friend's 30yo dd who runs marathons was diagnosed with an aggressive breast cancer over the summer. Thankfully her prognosis is good - even though it IS aggressive they caught it early enough and the doctors are confident she can beat it. She runs marathons and is incredibly health-literate; she even said she's used to tracking biometrics with a wearable so she feels comfortable having those conversations with the doctors.

And now Tatiana Schlossberg, who is 35 and mentioned swimming a mile the day before giving birth. I mean, swimming a mile on a regular day is proof enough someone is health-conscious and doing it nine months pregnant is just bad ass.

Why are these young women getting so sick?

Running marathons doesn't prevent cancer.

I don't think anyone was literally suggesting running marathons prevents cancer, just that people who run marathons are typically more health-conscious than your average American.