Anonymous wrote:To claim that they are "restoring fairness" on the ballot is ridiculous. They are disenfranchising a huge portion of Virginians from having representation familiar with their areas.

Anonymous wrote:I am a solid anti-Trump Democrat, but I'm just not sure I can get on board with gerrymandering VA when I've railed against it when the Republicans do it in other states.

Also, and maybe more practically, I don't feel that the way they are proposing to divide things up in VA will give me the best representation. I like the districts now because it feels like my community. If they change the boundaries I'll be lumped in with people who don't have any of the same local concerns as me.

Is that on anyone else's mind?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the GOP whining about Dem gerrymandering in CA and VA — they started an arms race, they didn’t think Dems would respond, they got it wrong. You win some, you lose some. Next time make sure you’ve got the cards before you raise.

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They are so used to Dems not fighting back that I think they were genuinely shocked it happened this time

Oh, please.......

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the GOP whining about Dem gerrymandering in CA and VA — they started an arms race, they didn’t think Dems would respond, they got it wrong. You win some, you lose some. Next time make sure you’ve got the cards before you raise.

+1

They are so used to Dems not fighting back that I think they were genuinely shocked it happened this time

Oh, please.......

Now do the other side. While you're at it why not look at the # of representatives the state has in the first place. It sounds scary to say Vermont has no republican representatives, but it only has 1 seat. So, big whoop.

I'll give you a hint, there are more Republican states with zero Democratic representatives and more with larger delegations of larger than 4 representatives that are solely Republican.

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

You are the liar. List the republican states with zero Democratic representatives.
It has to be more than 9 to make your statement true.

Nope, not a liar, let's play.

On the Democratic side
Connecticut 5
Delaware 1
Hawaii 2
Massachusetts 9
New Hampshire 2
New Mexico 3
Rhode Island 2
Vermont 1
Maine 2


On the Republican side
Alaska 1
Arkansas 4
Idaho 2
Iowa 4
Montana 2
Nebraska 3
North Dakota 1
Oklahoma 5
South Dakota 1
Utah 4
West Virginia 2
Wyoming 1

So Democrats: 27 seats, 9 states, 7 with delegation greater than 1, 2 with more than 4 per my original claim
And Republicans: 30 seats, 12 states, 8 with delegation greater than 1, 4 with more than 4 per my original claim

Your move.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the GOP whining about Dem gerrymandering in CA and VA — they started an arms race, they didn’t think Dems would respond, they got it wrong. You win some, you lose some. Next time make sure you’ve got the cards before you raise.

+1

They are so used to Dems not fighting back that I think they were genuinely shocked it happened this time

Oh, please.......

Now do the other side. While you're at it why not look at the # of representatives the state has in the first place. It sounds scary to say Vermont has no republican representatives, but it only has 1 seat. So, big whoop.

I'll give you a hint, there are more Republican states with zero Democratic representatives and more with larger delegations of larger than 4 representatives that are solely Republican.

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

You are the liar. List the republican states with zero Democratic representatives.
It has to be more than 9 to make your statement true.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the GOP whining about Dem gerrymandering in CA and VA — they started an arms race, they didn’t think Dems would respond, they got it wrong. You win some, you lose some. Next time make sure you’ve got the cards before you raise.

+1

They are so used to Dems not fighting back that I think they were genuinely shocked it happened this time

Oh, please.......

Now do the other side. While you're at it why not look at the # of representatives the state has in the first place. It sounds scary to say Vermont has no republican representatives, but it only has 1 seat. So, big whoop.

I'll give you a hint, there are more Republican states with zero Democratic representatives and more with larger delegations of larger than 4 representatives that are solely Republican.

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the GOP whining about Dem gerrymandering in CA and VA — they started an arms race, they didn’t think Dems would respond, they got it wrong. You win some, you lose some. Next time make sure you’ve got the cards before you raise.

+1

They are so used to Dems not fighting back that I think they were genuinely shocked it happened this time

Oh, please.......

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the GOP whining about Dem gerrymandering in CA and VA — they started an arms race, they didn’t think Dems would respond, they got it wrong. You win some, you lose some. Next time make sure you’ve got the cards before you raise.

+1

They are so used to Dems not fighting back that I think they were genuinely shocked it happened this time

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the GOP whining about Dem gerrymandering in CA and VA — they started an arms race, they didn’t think Dems would respond, they got it wrong. You win some, you lose some. Next time make sure you’ve got the cards before you raise.

+1

They are so used to Dems not fighting back that I think they were genuinely shocked it happened this time

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the GOP whining about Dem gerrymandering in CA and VA — they started an arms race, they didn’t think Dems would respond, they got it wrong. You win some, you lose some. Next time make sure you’ve got the cards before you raise.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought libs were against gerrymandering as it is anti-democrwtic or something.

Smells like hypocrisy.

Any vote at the federal level to eliminate partisan gerrymandering would be 100% supported by Dems and opposed by Rs. But you have to play the rigged game.

Well according to the new Virginia map, you’re wrong.