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Anonymous wrote:43
Strength train 5x week with the peloton app
Walk the dog on the trails every day
Root color every month
Pedicures in the summer
Forehead Botox 2x year
GLP-1
HRT
Adapalene
Sunscreen every day, drugstore makeup

Why are you on HRT at 43? I feel like so many women here are so extreme. All of this money and horseshit, baby Botox this and microdosing GLPs that and all of this fqing spending and bragging. And for what, be real.

I watch Slow Horses on Apple and because I was bored and watched it before, The Morning Show queued up for me. Both Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon are doing all of this sh!t and neither is technically Jocelyn Wildebstein and yet they both look strange, ugly, and cheap as hell next to Kristen Scott Thomas.

Stop pitting women against each other. If a woman does or doesn’t do anything it’s not a moral argument or representative of anything larger. It’s individual choices. Stop the madness.

DP It's a valid comparison, and I don't think the PP was making a moral judgement or pitting women against each other. I prefer watching actors male or female who look relatively normal, and it's relevant to the discussion to caution about using extreme measures in a losing battle against aging.

Well, she responded with “big girl” so doubling down on the misogyny is telling. She’s upholding the patriarchy as much as the others she believes are doing so because they use a skin serum.

I think you both need to ask yourselves why you need to insert your opinion here? People can think whatever they want, it’s in the sharing that makes it an agenda since the thread isn’t “what are your thoughts on beauty routines after 50?”

She also criticized HRT as nothing more than part of preposterous beauty regime, when the benefits include lowered incidence of osteoporosis which is a leading cause of death…fracture = hospital = reduced mobility and other infections like pneumonia.

Any beauty treatment is in service of upholding the patriarchy. This is not a judgement, just a truth.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot! Lagree, light botox, high quality medical grade skin care, low dose semaglutide, HRT. I look great (I get lots of compliments on my skin, and my BMI is 19), but it's expensive and time-consuming. Haters are going to hate on here.

Your BMI is 19! And you are on a semaglutide? WTH. Do you not care about your health and bone density?

19 is a healthy BMI. It's absolutely a fine, healthy weight. Maybe it would be too thin for you personally given your own bone structure, musculature, etc but let's not project your own biases on PP.

18 is considered underweight. In what world it is appropriate for a middle aged perimenopausal woman with a BMI of 19 to be on weight loss injections? What Dr would even write for this? I’m assuming she gets it from some online “doctor”

Do you realize that some people continue on the drug for maintenance and also to control A1C (pre-diabetes)? GLP-1s regulate blood sugar.

No, it is not approved to be prescribed for people with a BMI of 19 because of “insulin resistance” which is what this poster claims. You have to be overweight and with another comorbidity to get a prescription- at least that is if you are actually be treated by a real doctor. I hope this disordered poster is paying out of pocket for this plus her 6 mon dexa scans- and not leeching off the rest of insurance payers

My BMI started at 40 and A1C at 6.5. I was put on a GLP-1 years ago. BMI is now 21, A1C 5 and doctor keeps me on it. Do you have some idea of the person's history with the BMI of 19? Or are you assuming they were prescribed a GLP-1 with a starting BMI of 19? That seems really unusual. Plus somewhere earlier the BMI 19 poster said that they microdose "for maintenance" which suggests they started at a higher BMI.

I’m assuming she started with a BMI of 21 because she posts about it ALL THE TIME.

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Anonymous wrote:43
Strength train 5x week with the peloton app
Walk the dog on the trails every day
Root color every month
Pedicures in the summer
Forehead Botox 2x year
GLP-1
HRT
Adapalene
Sunscreen every day, drugstore makeup

Why are you on HRT at 43? I feel like so many women here are so extreme. All of this money and horseshit, baby Botox this and microdosing GLPs that and all of this fqing spending and bragging. And for what, be real.

I watch Slow Horses on Apple and because I was bored and watched it before, The Morning Show queued up for me. Both Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon are doing all of this sh!t and neither is technically Jocelyn Wildebstein and yet they both look strange, ugly, and cheap as hell next to Kristen Scott Thomas.

Stop pitting women against each other. If a woman does or doesn’t do anything it’s not a moral argument or representative of anything larger. It’s individual choices. Stop the madness.

DP It's a valid comparison, and I don't think the PP was making a moral judgement or pitting women against each other. I prefer watching actors male or female who look relatively normal, and it's relevant to the discussion to caution about using extreme measures in a losing battle against aging.

Well, she responded with “big girl” so doubling down on the misogyny is telling. She’s upholding the patriarchy as much as the others she believes are doing so because they use a skin serum.

I think you both need to ask yourselves why you need to insert your opinion here? People can think whatever they want, it’s in the sharing that makes it an agenda since the thread isn’t “what are your thoughts on beauty routines after 50?”

She also criticized HRT as nothing more than part of preposterous beauty regime, when the benefits include lowered incidence of osteoporosis which is a leading cause of death…fracture = hospital = reduced mobility and other infections like pneumonia.

Any beauty treatment is in service of upholding the patriarchy. This is not a judgement, just a truth.

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Anonymous wrote:HRT at 43? Who is even prescribing this? It sounds like malpractice.

I struggled to get HRT prescribed at age 51 by my GYN. No way would she have prescribed it at 43.

What on earth are you on about? It is not unheard of for peri to hit in the early forties. What you did or didn't get at whatever age is irrelevant to other people's medical decisions ... scary that you don't understand that.

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My mom went into menopause early, by age 45.

I think I’m the poster that mentioned the HRT, and my mother and older sisters all went into menopause early as well, between 45-48. I don’t think perimenopause at 43 is a statistical anomaly.

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Anonymous wrote:HRT at 43? Who is even prescribing this? It sounds like malpractice.

I struggled to get HRT prescribed at age 51 by my GYN. No way would she have prescribed it at 43.

What on earth are you on about? It is not unheard of for peri to hit in the early forties. What you did or didn't get at whatever age is irrelevant to other people's medical decisions ... scary that you don't understand that.

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My mom went into menopause early, by age 45.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot! Lagree, light botox, high quality medical grade skin care, low dose semaglutide, HRT. I look great (I get lots of compliments on my skin, and my BMI is 19), but it's expensive and time-consuming. Haters are going to hate on here.

Your BMI is 19! And you are on a semaglutide? WTH. Do you not care about your health and bone density?

19 is a healthy BMI. It's absolutely a fine, healthy weight. Maybe it would be too thin for you personally given your own bone structure, musculature, etc but let's not project your own biases on PP.

18 is considered underweight. In what world it is appropriate for a middle aged perimenopausal woman with a BMI of 19 to be on weight loss injections? What Dr would even write for this? I’m assuming she gets it from some online “doctor”

Do you realize that some people continue on the drug for maintenance and also to control A1C (pre-diabetes)? GLP-1s regulate blood sugar.

No, it is not approved to be prescribed for people with a BMI of 19 because of “insulin resistance” which is what this poster claims. You have to be overweight and with another comorbidity to get a prescription- at least that is if you are actually be treated by a real doctor. I hope this disordered poster is paying out of pocket for this plus her 6 mon dexa scans- and not leeching off the rest of insurance payers

My BMI started at 40 and A1C at 6.5. I was put on a GLP-1 years ago. BMI is now 21, A1C 5 and doctor keeps me on it. Do you have some idea of the person's history with the BMI of 19? Or are you assuming they were prescribed a GLP-1 with a starting BMI of 19? That seems really unusual. Plus somewhere earlier the BMI 19 poster said that they microdose "for maintenance" which suggests they started at a higher BMI.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot! Lagree, light botox, high quality medical grade skin care, low dose semaglutide, HRT. I look great (I get lots of compliments on my skin, and my BMI is 19), but it's expensive and time-consuming. Haters are going to hate on here.

Your BMI is 19! And you are on a semaglutide? WTH. Do you not care about your health and bone density?

19 is a healthy BMI. It's absolutely a fine, healthy weight. Maybe it would be too thin for you personally given your own bone structure, musculature, etc but let's not project your own biases on PP.

18 is considered underweight. In what world it is appropriate for a middle aged perimenopausal woman with a BMI of 19 to be on weight loss injections? What Dr would even write for this? I’m assuming she gets it from some online “doctor”

Do you realize that some people continue on the drug for maintenance and also to control A1C (pre-diabetes)? GLP-1s regulate blood sugar.

No, it is not approved to be prescribed for people with a BMI of 19 because of “insulin resistance” which is what this poster claims. You have to be overweight and with another comorbidity to get a prescription- at least that is if you are actually be treated by a real doctor. I hope this disordered poster is paying out of pocket for this plus her 6 mon dexa scans- and not leeching off the rest of insurance payers

My BMI started at 40 and A1C at 6.5. I was put on a GLP-1 years ago. BMI is now 21, A1C 5 and doctor keeps me on it. Do you have some idea of the person's history with the BMI of 19? Or are you assuming they were prescribed a GLP-1 with a starting BMI of 19? That seems really unusual. Plus somewhere earlier the BMI 19 poster said that they microdose "for maintenance" which suggests they started at a higher BMI.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot! Lagree, light botox, high quality medical grade skin care, low dose semaglutide, HRT. I look great (I get lots of compliments on my skin, and my BMI is 19), but it's expensive and time-consuming. Haters are going to hate on here.

Your BMI is 19! And you are on a semaglutide? WTH. Do you not care about your health and bone density?

19 is a healthy BMI. It's absolutely a fine, healthy weight. Maybe it would be too thin for you personally given your own bone structure, musculature, etc but let's not project your own biases on PP.

18 is considered underweight. In what world it is appropriate for a middle aged perimenopausal woman with a BMI of 19 to be on weight loss injections? What Dr would even write for this? I’m assuming she gets it from some online “doctor”

Do you realize that some people continue on the drug for maintenance and also to control A1C (pre-diabetes)? GLP-1s regulate blood sugar.

No, it is not approved to be prescribed for people with a BMI of 19 because of “insulin resistance” which is what this poster claims. You have to be overweight and with another comorbidity to get a prescription- at least that is if you are actually be treated by a real doctor. I hope this disordered poster is paying out of pocket for this plus her 6 mon dexa scans- and not leeching off the rest of insurance payers

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Anonymous wrote:A lot! Lagree, light botox, high quality medical grade skin care, low dose semaglutide, HRT. I look great (I get lots of compliments on my skin, and my BMI is 19), but it's expensive and time-consuming. Haters are going to hate on here.

Your BMI is 19! And you are on a semaglutide? WTH. Do you not care about your health and bone density?

19 is a healthy BMI. It's absolutely a fine, healthy weight. Maybe it would be too thin for you personally given your own bone structure, musculature, etc but let's not project your own biases on PP.

18 is considered underweight. In what world it is appropriate for a middle aged perimenopausal woman with a BMI of 19 to be on weight loss injections? What Dr would even write for this? I’m assuming she gets it from some online “doctor”

Do you realize that some people continue on the drug for maintenance and also to control A1C (pre-diabetes)? GLP-1s regulate blood sugar.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot! Lagree, light botox, high quality medical grade skin care, low dose semaglutide, HRT. I look great (I get lots of compliments on my skin, and my BMI is 19), but it's expensive and time-consuming. Haters are going to hate on here.

Your BMI is 19! And you are on a semaglutide? WTH. Do you not care about your health and bone density?

19 is a healthy BMI. It's absolutely a fine, healthy weight. Maybe it would be too thin for you personally given your own bone structure, musculature, etc but let's not project your own biases on PP.

18 is considered underweight. In what world it is appropriate for a middle aged perimenopausal woman with a BMI of 19 to be on weight loss injections? What Dr would even write for this? I’m assuming she gets it from some online “doctor”

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Anonymous wrote:HRT at 43? Who is even prescribing this? It sounds like malpractice.

I struggled to get HRT prescribed at age 51 by my GYN. No way would she have prescribed it at 43.

What on earth are you on about? It is not unheard of for peri to hit in the early forties. What you did or didn't get at whatever age is irrelevant to other people's medical decisions ... scary that you don't understand that.

DP. Yes, I’m sure that the DCUM poster is the statistical anomaly. We always are.

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Anonymous wrote:43
Strength train 5x week with the peloton app
Walk the dog on the trails every day
Root color every month
Pedicures in the summer
Forehead Botox 2x year
GLP-1
HRT
Adapalene
Sunscreen every day, drugstore makeup

Why are you on HRT at 43? I feel like so many women here are so extreme. All of this money and horseshit, baby Botox this and microdosing GLPs that and all of this fqing spending and bragging. And for what, be real.

I watch Slow Horses on Apple and because I was bored and watched it before, The Morning Show queued up for me. Both Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon are doing all of this sh!t and neither is technically Jocelyn Wildebstein and yet they both look strange, ugly, and cheap as hell next to Kristen Scott Thomas.

Who does not look strange and ugly and cheap -- but looks old as hell. You have to choose, unfortunately.

Anonymous wrote:HRT at 43? Who is even prescribing this? It sounds like malpractice.

I struggled to get HRT prescribed at age 51 by my GYN. No way would she have prescribed it at 43.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of people seem to be using Vitamin C serums. Does anyone have a specific brand recommendation?

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I have a biochem background (though a lawyer now) so I like to get into the weeds of ingredient/interactions/sourcing of different products, and have tried several. (Vitamin c serum helps with brightening/collagen production/anti ox protection and I find it to be a perfect complement to tretinoin). The most effective will be a L ascorbic acid or a derivative. The two I love are skinceuticals vitamin C (quite expensive) and Cerave (cheap drugstore). But of course with all products, ymmv. I also liked drunk elephant and Sunday Riley ok but neither was any better than cerave

NP. Thanks for posting this! Which moisturizers do you recommend?

Hi! I like talking about my skincare routine, haha. My specific skin concerns are fine lines around eyes, dullness and clogged pores. I use a combo of moisturizers to “plump” up my skin and to protect the skin barrier because of the active products I use. Tretinoin is the center of my routine and (alternating) I also use surface exfoliants: AHA acid (glycolic) to address texture/dullness and a BHA acid (salicylic) to address clogged pores. I use very gentle acids (caudalie brightening glycolic peel mask & Paula’s choice bha lotion exfoliant).

The moisturizers I use nightly (esp to address reactions to tretinoin) are:
-barrier serum: MA:NYO Bifida Biome Complex Ampoule Serum
-barrier moisturizer: AESTURA ATOBARRIER365 Cream with Ceramides
OR
-Skin Fix
-Also, when I first started using tret, or if I’ve been in the sun a lot that day, I use La Roche-Posay Cicaplast Balm B5, Healing Ointment

In the morning, I use:
-La Roche-Posay Toleriane Double Repair UV SPF Moisturizer
-cerave eye repair cream

Also, I still love the cerave peptide night cream and while it’s not as potent as what I’m using now, sometimes I’ll put the peptide cream on during the day if I’m WFH and taking a bathroom break, maybe that’s weird, anyways…

I don’t believe tret does anything - I’ve seen no changes on my middle aged face and it’s done nothing for my teen with acne. Why does everyone think it’s the magic elixir?

Because it is proven to prevent aging. But it's also playing the long game. My skin looks great in middle age in no small part because of tret but I've been on the tret, vitamin C, and religious use of high SPF sunscreen since middle sschool. You can't expect miracles starting that regime at 45.

DP. How old are you? I don’t remember anyone using any of that in middle school. It was Nivea or a bar of Dial soap.

I'm 44. Acne as a teen so always worked with a dermatologist.

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Anonymous wrote:HRT at 43? Who is even prescribing this? It sounds like malpractice.

I struggled to get HRT prescribed at age 51 by my GYN. No way would she have prescribed it at 43.

What on earth are you on about? It is not unheard of for peri to hit in the early forties. What you did or didn't get at whatever age is irrelevant to other people's medical decisions ... scary that you don't understand that.