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Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

We can all pick up on different vibes when we visit schools; but for purposes of OP's list, it's a southern school.

There is a difference between being “southern” and being in the south region of the US census.

Most people use cultural attributes to define “southern”, not just how the government rallies up the population. e.g. no one considers Delaware to be “southern”.

OP even makes reference to the civil war “south” which makes the census grouping even less relevant.

OP's "the south rises" wasn't in ANY way referring to the Civil War, you twit. She was talking about the rise of southern universities - and she's absolutely correct.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

Only when you include Maryland and DC in the south

Why isn't PP including VT? It's also ranked 51, along with the other schools listed.

Subject says it all: USNWR Top 50.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

Only when you include Maryland and DC in the south

Why isn't PP including VT? It's also ranked 51, along with the other schools listed.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

We can all pick up on different vibes when we visit schools; but for purposes of OP's list, it's a southern school.

There is a difference between being “southern” and being in the south region of the US census.

Most people use cultural attributes to define “southern”, not just how the government rallies up the population. e.g. no one considers Delaware to be “southern”.

OP even makes reference to the civil war “south” which makes the census grouping even less relevant.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

Only when you include Maryland and DC in the south

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

We can all pick up on different vibes when we visit schools; but for purposes of OP's list, it's a southern school.

There is a difference between being “southern” and being in the south region of the US census.

Most people use cultural attributes to define “southern”, not just how the government rallies up the population. e.g. no one considers Delaware to be “southern”.

OP even makes reference to the civil war “south” which makes the census grouping even less relevant.

You are trying waaay too hard to eliminate certain southern institutions of higher learning from "the south" list because you don't think they have southern vibes. That's just your opinion. Quit trying to pigeon hole schools into your idea of what's southern and what's not. There's a lot more diversity to the south than you seem able to comprehend.

No, I’m not. I only broke out 3 schools from the “south” list that no one (who isn’t tallying up the population) considers as part of the geographic south:

North (18)
1 Princeton
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
32 NYU
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
42 Rutgers
46 Northeastern
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

Mid-Atlantic (3):
7 Johns Hopkins
24 Georgetown
42 Maryland

South (10):
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UNC
26 UVA
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 Georgia

Midwest (9):
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (10):
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UW

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

We can all pick up on different vibes when we visit schools; but for purposes of OP's list, it's a southern school.

There is a difference between being “southern” and being in the south region of the US census.

Most people use cultural attributes to define “southern”, not just how the government rallies up the population. e.g. no one considers Delaware to be “southern”.

OP even makes reference to the civil war “south” which makes the census grouping even less relevant.

You are trying waaay too hard to eliminate certain southern institutions of higher learning from "the south" list because you don't think they have southern vibes. That's just your opinion. Quit trying to pigeon hole schools into your idea of what's southern and what's not. There's a lot more diversity to the south than you seem able to comprehend.

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

W&M is really a unique school since it’s set in a “Disneyland for history” neighborhood, teeny tiny, and attracts a certain type of student (think: theater camp/dungeons and dragons/etc).

It’s more progressive than any other southern school, and it lacks the state university rah! rah! vibe.

When we were there for a high school sports thing and enjoying a Friday night stroll around Williamsburg, we noticed some college kids walking around (plus some runners). We couldn’t imagine what students do for fun there. My kid ruled it immediately based on that factor (and landed at a SEC school).

Anonymous wrote:William and Mary is a great school. Maybe US News says it isn't a top 50 school, but it blends a nice dose of SLAC with a more comprehensive college.

Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

We can all pick up on different vibes when we visit schools; but for purposes of OP's list, it's a southern school.

There is a difference between being “southern” and being in the south region of the US census.

Most people use cultural attributes to define “southern”, not just how the government rallies up the population. e.g. no one considers Delaware to be “southern”.

OP even makes reference to the civil war “south” which makes the census grouping even less relevant.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

We can all pick up on different vibes when we visit schools; but for purposes of OP's list, it's a southern school.

There is a difference between being “southern” and being in the south region of the US census.

Most people use cultural attributes to define “southern”, not just how the government rallies up the population. e.g. no one considers Delaware to be “southern”.

OP even makes reference to the civil war “south” which makes the census grouping even less relevant.