Anonymous
Post 09/29/2025 11:51     Subject: Re:UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.


Why don’t you read the post immediately above and try to think before posting.


So you have no thoughts on how low UVA may eventually fall? Most seem to think it will bottom out around 50th so not drop into that dreaded 51+ grouping which is somewhat promising.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2025 10:08     Subject: Re:UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.

Yall are annoying with this. What 14 schools currently ranked below UVa could you make the argument are better than UVa? A school with a 14B endowment?


NYU is much more selective and also has a large endowment, yet it's ranked in the 30s

NYU is notorious for having a terrible endowment. $108k per student is really, really bad. We get all kinds of posters here. Geez.

https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent/State/NY/
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2025 10:04     Subject: Re:UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.

Yall are annoying with this. What 14 schools currently ranked below UVa could you make the argument are better than UVa? A school with a 14B endowment?


NYU is much more selective and also has a large endowment, yet it's ranked in the 30s


USC as well and also schools such as Tufts, BU, BU, Northeastern are more selective and more popular among high stat kids especially by OOS.


Still sounds like a great deal for in-state UVA. All examples you and the PP mentioned are 2 - 3 times the cost. If you consider cost then UVA is the best bang for the buck in-state.

This ranking tells me one thing - UVA needs to look at the USNWR metrics and play them. UCB and UCLA certainly are as well as the other UCals. VA Tech is certainly doing it better than UVA. UVA just got complacent for it being known as a "prestigious institution" before the USNWR showed up. UVA wants to be the Flagship - it better play the game.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2025 09:58     Subject: Re:UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.

Yall are annoying with this. What 14 schools currently ranked below UVa could you make the argument are better than UVa? A school with a 14B endowment?


NYU is much more selective and also has a large endowment, yet it's ranked in the 30s


More selective does not equal better.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2025 07:44     Subject: Re:UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.

Yall are annoying with this. What 14 schools currently ranked below UVa could you make the argument are better than UVa? A school with a 14B endowment?


NYU is much more selective and also has a large endowment, yet it's ranked in the 30s


USC as well and also schools such as Tufts, BU, BU, Northeastern are more selective and more popular among high stat kids especially by OOS.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 23:22     Subject: Re:UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.

Yall are annoying with this. What 14 schools currently ranked below UVa could you make the argument are better than UVa? A school with a 14B endowment?


NYU is much more selective and also has a large endowment, yet it's ranked in the 30s
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 23:16     Subject: UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has held extraordinarily steady in the US News rankings for years and years and years despite all of the changes in its methodology. It can’t really get much higher as a practical matter because it’s a public school already nipping at the heels of top privates. Competing with the CA schools is daunting. UC-Berkeley and UCLA are the flagship universities of the state with by far the largest population—5 times as many people as Virginia—and Michigan is an outlier.

Every year when the rankings come out posters predict UVA’s imminent demise but every year the ranking is basically the same.


UCLA and Berkeley (and other UCs) rose recently with the recent change in metodology. They have a relatively high percentage of Pell recipient (California has one of the highest poverty rates) and very high research. These replaced criteria where the UCs lagged like student faculty ratios and alumni giving rates. They have relatively high faculty salaries, but if you factor that the cost of living in California is 150% of the national average it is not as good, particularly for younger faculty.


Sorry DP, but the UCs are just better. California has a much bigger pool of qualified in-state applicants (including some who also qualify for Pell), and there is proximity to the most innovative companies on the planet. UVA is a great state school, but Berkeley and UCLA are next level.


As a parent with a kid at UCLA and one at UVA I would disagree completely. UVA is the better undergraduate experience and school hands down. UCLA has better weather.


+1. Even if you can get in OOS UCLA is $81k, $83K if living off campus. UVA ranges $30-$32k total for in-state


I’m so grateful my kid attends UVA. Period.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 20:44     Subject: UVA out of top 25

Anonymous wrote:UVA is still the best university in the country.


Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 20:43     Subject: UVA out of top 25

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? USNWR's methodology is suss and data is often inflated by schools.

Why are we looking to a magazine to tell us what to think?

UVA is a great school whether it's #23 or #26 on a silly ranking system.

Think for yourself people!


+1 !!
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 20:43     Subject: UVA out of top 25

UVA is still the best university in the country.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 20:36     Subject: UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:No real change and still the 3rd best school in VA.


After who?


VT


PP said third. I am assuming W&M.

Either way to premise is absurd. Most VT students would not even be admitted to UVA or WM.


My kid applied to both VT and UVA and was admitted to both. Chose VT. Wasn't at all interested in WM. There are plenty of kids for whom this is true, but do go on.
DP
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 20:07     Subject: UVA out of top 25

Anonymous wrote:The biggest drawback for UVa is its location. Engineering, STEM, Econ etc under grads and even MBAs and Law Students really have to reach out companies in NY, Boston, Bay Area to get job - and these companies have access to grads from higher ranked schools.



Read and learn. UVA Masters program Darden ranked no 1 for exceptional career placement. https://news.darden.virginia.edu/2025/04/08/exceptional-career-outcomes-boost-darden-to-no-1-ranking-in-us-news/
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 19:57     Subject: UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:No real change and still the 3rd best school in VA.


After who?


VT


PP said third. I am assuming W&M.

Either way to premise is absurd. Most VT students would not even be admitted to UVA or WM.



True. UVA is ranked 26. VT and W&M are tied for 51.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 19:52     Subject: Re:UVA out of top 25

Anonymous wrote:Question I have is how low will UVA fall? I can see into the 40s as likely. Some say lower than that given the data and trend.


Why don’t you read the post immediately above and try to think before posting.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 19:51     Subject: UVA out of top 25

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest drawback for UVa is its location. Engineering, STEM, Econ etc under grads and even MBAs and Law Students really have to reach out companies in NY, Boston, Bay Area to get job - and these companies have access to grads from higher ranked schools.


As opposed to Michigan, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Duke, Dartmouth, etc?

Stupid take.


Ridiculous take. Most hiring is done by Skype. Businesses visit UVA’s career center daily. There’s a reason why its business and law school are ranked so high (UVA Law is no 4).