Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 11:54     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


Someone’s kid definitely didn’t in.


Nope, both kids got into first choice schools. One now headed to Cambridge for graduate school.

Just stating the obvious on how higher education institutions have (d)evolved over the past four decades.


IKR? Remember back then when no women could go to many of these top institutions? Those were the days before women devolved everything,
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 11:42     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


Someone’s kid definitely didn’t in.


Nope, both kids got into first choice schools. One now headed to Cambridge for graduate school.

Just stating the obvious on how higher education institutions have (d)evolved over the past four decades.


Well you sound like a bad parent. Higher education is so poor quality and damaged and corrupt and horrible and yet you allowed your children to be involved in it. You should have done a better job to protect your children and keep them away from that.


Yes, higher education in America is not what it once was across the board.

There are still some quality schools and parents should help their kids find good fit schools, not chase schools based on DCUM or other 3rd party rankings only to be disappointed with the end result.

Glad my kid is going oversees as UK schools have maintained their standards to a much higher degree.


That is funny given the requirement for public school quotas in the UK.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 11:40     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


Someone’s kid definitely didn’t in.


Nope, both kids got into first choice schools. One now headed to Cambridge for graduate school.

Just stating the obvious on how higher education institutions have (d)evolved over the past four decades.


Very doubtful given the weakness and total inadequacy of your argument.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 11:07     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


Someone’s kid definitely didn’t in.


Nope, both kids got into first choice schools. One now headed to Cambridge for graduate school.

Just stating the obvious on how higher education institutions have (d)evolved over the past four decades.


Well you sound like a bad parent. Higher education is so poor quality and damaged and corrupt and horrible and yet you allowed your children to be involved in it. You should have done a better job to protect your children and keep them away from that.


Not that PP, but higher education has problems from top to bottom, and yet is still a requirement for starting an UMC career, and college prestige still matters to some extent. Therefore the PP was a good parent for sending his kids to the best possible schools - as indeed everyone on DCUM tries to do.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 10:31     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


Someone’s kid definitely didn’t in.


Nope, both kids got into first choice schools. One now headed to Cambridge for graduate school.

Just stating the obvious on how higher education institutions have (d)evolved over the past four decades.


Well you sound like a bad parent. Higher education is so poor quality and damaged and corrupt and horrible and yet you allowed your children to be involved in it. You should have done a better job to protect your children and keep them away from that.


Yes, higher education in America is not what it once was across the board.

There are still some quality schools and parents should help their kids find good fit schools, not chase schools based on DCUM or other 3rd party rankings only to be disappointed with the end result.

Glad my kid is going oversees as UK schools have maintained their standards to a much higher degree.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 10:15     Subject: Re:Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This weekend I was chatting with a neighbor who said they had a grandson at Bucknell and I couldn't hep but think to myself how much DCUM hates Bucknell, lmao.


LOL

Very few heard of Bucknell and even fewer have any opinion on it. Most just dont care about some small obscure non-entity.


You do realize that actual people with feelings read what you write? Would you speak like this in mixed company? If not, then don't say it online. If you would...then learn to be considerate. Comments like this add no value.

BYW, I have no relation to Bucknell and don't really have an opinion on the school. I just hate to see talk like this.


+1
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 10:15     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Even now, for those of us who work "on the street", know that kids from Baruch and Pace and Fordham are as common as Harvard and Yale and Princeton. sure they may start lower on the rung a little and have worse suits, but in 5 years, the work is what is being judged, not the degree.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 10:14     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


Someone’s kid definitely didn’t in.


Nope, both kids got into first choice schools. One now headed to Cambridge for graduate school.

Just stating the obvious on how higher education institutions have (d)evolved over the past four decades.


Well you sound like a bad parent. Higher education is so poor quality and damaged and corrupt and horrible and yet you allowed your children to be involved in it. You should have done a better job to protect your children and keep them away from that.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 10:09     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


Someone’s kid definitely didn’t in.


Nope, both kids got into first choice schools. One now headed to Cambridge for graduate school.

Just stating the obvious on how higher education institutions have (d)evolved over the past four decades.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 09:52     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


Someone’s kid definitely didn’t in.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 08:37     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


People love to rewrite history. Your college mattered very little until around the 1980s. Few people went to college and like 95% went to college either right down the street or really no more than like 50 miles from home. The Ivy League schools rarely accepted poor kids and FA was minimal (though cost was much cheaper as a percentage of HHI).

You would see far more people on Wall Street as example that either skipped college entirely or just went to a college in NYC (really any college).

It actually really started to matter at all starting in the 1980s until actually the present as far higher percentages of kids started attending college. However it’s not just going to a tippy top school but rather a top 100ish school.

There are still plenty of places that DCUM professes to hate (hedge funds, MBB, PE) where tippy top gives you a huge advantage. Selingo even admits as much in this article.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 06:25     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


It seems as if you are implying that only so-called DEI hires (women, minorities) were dishonest with their background, etc. That’s just not true.


No, not all. There is of course the ex-Stanford president (implied via falsified research).
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 06:09     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.


It seems as if you are implying that only so-called DEI hires (women, minorities) were dishonest with their background, etc. That’s just not true.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2025 05:28     Subject: Selingo WSJ Essay

There was a time, up to the mid to late 1980s, where the college you attended mattered. But then the slow but unstoppable push for diversity for diversity’s sake began. Schools began to offer more and more money to “underprivileged” students to diversify their student population. At first school’s worked hard to make sure that the students had the requisite talent to succeed, but as time wore on it became a numbers game and student quality no longer mattered.

The 90s and early 2000’s saw the rise of diversity in the faculty ranks, again at first with positive results. But it too became a numbers game. Now we have university leaders who got to where they were via falsified research and plagiarism not talent.

The top schools up until recently skated by on their reputations but the facades are crumbling. Now companies still recruit at top universities but have branched out to find true talent. They do their own preemployment testing to separate the high performers from those gifted As to avoid parents complaining about Larla and Larlo not getting As for $100K a year.

So, you now have parent’s complaining that they spent mid six figures on an Ivy League education only to have their kid working at the local grocery store.

But gotta keep that consulting gravy train rolling.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2025 23:00     Subject: Re:Selingo WSJ Essay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This weekend I was chatting with a neighbor who said they had a grandson at Bucknell and I couldn't hep but think to myself how much DCUM hates Bucknell, lmao.


LOL

Very few heard of Bucknell and even fewer have any opinion on it. Most just dont care about some small obscure non-entity.


You do realize that actual people with feelings read what you write? Would you speak like this in mixed company? If not, then don't say it online. If you would...then learn to be considerate. Comments like this add no value.

BYW, I have no relation to Bucknell and don't really have an opinion on the school. I just hate to see talk like this.