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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

I got ortin gillingham training and volunteer for an organization that sends me to various local schools to tutor the kids struggling to read. I don’t have any children assigned to me at my own child’s school.

That’s a great idea! Do you think traditional school can be challenging for kids with dyslexia? Do you think they appreciate going on a field trip or having a class party?

No, I don’t. Waste of everyone’s time

Complete horseshit, lol

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Anonymous wrote:This was my mom. She genuinely loved it. And the other kids loved her. I wished I appreciated it more when I was younger. Kids used to comment how great she was or how lucky I was etc but I was always more annoyed that she was always there.

I still remember and have fond memories of mom who was my Girl Scout troop leader when I was in Brownies. Her daughter went to a different school for middle school and we lost touch but I always think of the mom and how quietly impactful she was when I pick my daughter up from Girl Scouts

Another mom at my ES led my Great Books group for a few years. She was outstanding. I still remember those books and those discussions. We wouldn’t have had that without her. Years and years later, I went to her funeral and told her kids how much I appreciated that.

Anonymous wrote:This was my mom. She genuinely loved it. And the other kids loved her. I wished I appreciated it more when I was younger. Kids used to comment how great she was or how lucky I was etc but I was always more annoyed that she was always there.

I still remember and have fond memories of mom who was my Girl Scout troop leader when I was in Brownies. Her daughter went to a different school for middle school and we lost touch but I always think of the mom and how quietly impactful she was when I pick my daughter up from Girl Scouts

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

I got ortin gillingham training and volunteer for an organization that sends me to various local schools to tutor the kids struggling to read. I don’t have any children assigned to me at my own child’s school.

That’s a great idea! Do you think traditional school can be challenging for kids with dyslexia? Do you think they appreciate going on a field trip or having a class party?

No, I don’t. Waste of everyone’s time

Speak for yourself. My kids love class parties and field trips.

I have kids in private and public and wish the public had better field trips.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody else feel bad for the parents who feel the need to volunteer for everything their kid does-helps on the field for every football game, chaperones every field trip, flies to every school trip?
And they act like they know all the kids and the “kids just love” them.

It’s almost like they are reliving their youth

No but I feel bad for people like you.

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I do think you should consider doing some reflection on what makes you want to judge these parents. Maybe you worry your kid is being left out or they are judging you? Most likely, neither of those are true. I know 2 moms who volunteer for everything - one is SAH and one works full time. They are both lovely people who enjoy interacting with kids. I know another kind mom who volunteers occasionally but is trying to find new, interesting field trip opportunities for all grades in our school— so not in-person volunteering but lots of behind the scenes researching and contacting places I am thankful for her also. Particularly in public school, so much depends on the efforts of these volunteers. I definitely feel there are way too many class parties although I have no idea why that happens and feel it’s the responsibility of the teachers / administration to set boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

I got ortin gillingham training and volunteer for an organization that sends me to various local schools to tutor the kids struggling to read. I don’t have any children assigned to me at my own child’s school.

That’s a great idea! Do you think traditional school can be challenging for kids with dyslexia? Do you think they appreciate going on a field trip or having a class party?

No, I don’t. Waste of everyone’s time

I can tell you my dyslexic kid needs more breaks than the average student and appreciates not only the great service you provide but the chance to go on field trips like the kids who don’t struggle so much.

That’s what weekends are for. And half days, and the random Fridays/Mondays off, thanksgiving break, winter break, mid winter break, spring break, and 10 weeks off school in the summer. Kids need more of their time in school focused on academics, not less

Your problem is with the school and their priorities, not that parents show up when asked.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So all your information comes from posters here? That sounds about right. Interesting that you sit in judgment of people when you have no first hand information or knowledge and likely don’t even have kids.

Of course I have kids and it’s clear what’s going on. But in case anyone doubts- it’s all right here in this forum for people to read, which is why I pointed it out

So other parents who have kids in schools need to read posts here to understand there is a problem? The problem seems to be that you resent other parents have more time and energy for these things. Why don’t you ask your kid how they feel about field trips and extras? Or do you already know that they are sad you can’t be bothered to show up so you want to burn it all down?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

I got ortin gillingham training and volunteer for an organization that sends me to various local schools to tutor the kids struggling to read. I don’t have any children assigned to me at my own child’s school.

That’s a great idea! Do you think traditional school can be challenging for kids with dyslexia? Do you think they appreciate going on a field trip or having a class party?

No, I don’t. Waste of everyone’s time

I can tell you my dyslexic kid needs more breaks than the average student and appreciates not only the great service you provide but the chance to go on field trips like the kids who don’t struggle so much.

That’s what weekends are for. And half days, and the random Fridays/Mondays off, thanksgiving break, winter break, mid winter break, spring break, and 10 weeks off school in the summer. Kids need more of their time in school focused on academics, not less

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

I got ortin gillingham training and volunteer for an organization that sends me to various local schools to tutor the kids struggling to read. I don’t have any children assigned to me at my own child’s school.

That’s a great idea! Do you think traditional school can be challenging for kids with dyslexia? Do you think they appreciate going on a field trip or having a class party?

No, I don’t. Waste of everyone’s time

I can tell you my dyslexic kid needs more breaks than the average student and appreciates not only the great service you provide but the chance to go on field trips like the kids who don’t struggle so much.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

I got ortin gillingham training and volunteer for an organization that sends me to various local schools to tutor the kids struggling to read. I don’t have any children assigned to me at my own child’s school.

That’s a great idea! Do you think traditional school can be challenging for kids with dyslexia? Do you think they appreciate going on a field trip or having a class party?

No, I don’t. Waste of everyone’s time

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

I got ortin gillingham training and volunteer for an organization that sends me to various local schools to tutor the kids struggling to read. I don’t have any children assigned to me at my own child’s school.

That’s a great idea! Do you think traditional school can be challenging for kids with dyslexia? Do you think they appreciate going on a field trip or having a class party?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So what do you volunteer to do?

I got ortin gillingham training and volunteer for an organization that sends me to various local schools to tutor the kids struggling to read. I don’t have any children assigned to me at my own child’s school.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So all your information comes from posters here? That sounds about right. Interesting that you sit in judgment of people when you have no first hand information or knowledge and likely don’t even have kids.

Of course I have kids and it’s clear what’s going on. But in case anyone doubts- it’s all right here in this forum for people to read, which is why I pointed it out

So do you volunteer to do anything in any of your children’s classrooms/schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

So kids would be smarter and learn more if school was more unpleasant?

It is unhelpful. Schools is perfectly pleasant without parents fighting and clawing to get the sign up sheet first for these extras. It’s unnecessary and judging my the sheer number of posts about parents complaining about not being able “get a spot” on the sign up, it isn’t about actually helping. It’s about it being seen, feeling important, gaining affection from your kid (and maybe other peoples) and getting insider info about which teachers to request, which kids to say you don’t want yours in class with, etc. We all know how it is.

So all your information comes from posters here? That sounds about right. Interesting that you sit in judgment of people when you have no first hand information or knowledge and likely don’t even have kids.

Of course I have kids and it’s clear what’s going on. But in case anyone doubts- it’s all right here in this forum for people to read, which is why I pointed it out

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thankful for kids’ sports coaches if they are volunteer, or the parent that volunteers to run an after school math club, or chess club, or be the Science Olympiad leader/coach.

I’m not thankful for the “room parents” that keep distracting education with too many dumb class parties or the parties that do school carnival or whatever. I don’t need other parents to “make things fun” at school. School is for education and schools are doing a pretty bad job at it- and it isn’t because of lack of parent volunteers to throwing parties or lack of snacks in the teachers’ break room

Clearly you've never been a room parent. WE don't determine how many class parties there are, or when they are. The teachers do that in conjunction with administrators. And the teachers usually do it at times when the kids are crazy and squirrely anyway. It gives the teachers a break in the middle of a crazy busy season.

I really don't think a winter party and an end of year party are the problem with modern education, and I really dislike much of the modern educational system. My middle schooler who is past the age of room parents is now in class government and the kids just do the parties themselves. Trust me they have a lot more party-type-stuff in homeroom than my elementary kids.

I’m a room parent. Our school did that carnival. Maybe the pp is from our school. I helped do that event, not because I wanted to, but because no one else stepped up. I wanted to be a normal volunteer and no one showed up so someone had to book the vendors, food, etc. The kids had a good time.

For my other kid, he also had a carnival and I only showed up and helped serve food. I got to see some kids and met a few parents who also helped me serve food.

I only have one kid left in elementary. This is my last kid and I don’t want to be the room parent anymore. I’m probably the only one who will do it so I will. I will likely buy the items the teacher requests for the Halloween and holiday party. If pp doesn’t want to help or see their kid and classmates dressed up for Halloween, that is fine, but they don’t have to be rude. I love Halloween and I love the holidays.

My older kids play sports and there are those parents who organize everything like team meals, coach gifts, transportation, etc and I am very grateful for them.