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Anonymous wrote:In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

Gatehouse is this you....my kid was constantly losing 30-45 minutes of instructional time in History class and he was there 20 mins early. Stop talking at people you sound dumb and like you are sitting behind a comfy desk trying to make it all seem ok.

Nope I’m a parent like you with common sense. Are you talking about last year because of course they didn’t have a full fleet of metal detectors, they were testing it out. Highly doubt it took your son an hour to get through.

6 netal detectors for approximately 3000 students is nowhere near a "full fleet" of metal detectors.

1 metal detector for 500 students.

25 minutes to get through the metal detector and butts in the chair in class.

Every student must empty their backpacks and open their purses.

To achieve this with the handful of metal detectors FCPS hired, that comes to 20 students per minute required to get all 3000 students through the door and in their seats by the bell at 8:10 when the classrooms all close the doors and go on full lockdown.

Please explain how the math works for this "full fleet" of 6 metal detectors.

I'm an upthread PP whose entire division uses weapons (not "metal") detectors. If the kids scrub their backpacks of weapon-like objects (hence my comments on no 3-ring binders, metal/liquid filled water bottles, etc) and they take their laptops out and (literally) hold them over their head as they walk through the "detectors" -- they don't get set off and can walk thru at a normal pace and the line does move along. But the first few weeks have a steep learning curve for everyone (what they can/can't bring); they eventually back off on the tolerance level, and, yes, move certain kids along. Backpacks, lunchboxes, and personal items are "hand" searched only if the detectors go off. Our school has a total of four detectors -- one at the office, and three at the bus loop entrance for all ~2000 students. Faculty and staff does NOT get checked but all visitors do.

That said, our detectors stop sensing things a few inches above the ankle. Wanna guess what kind of stuff literally walks into school, in shoes?

Like I said, they are not making it safer; there are too many holes/inconsistencies. It is not a deterrent; it's just a PITA. They're checking off a box.

I wish they'd expend equal energy and effort to eliminate vaping in the bathrooms. So glad this is our family's last year in The System.

Anonymous wrote:I just received an email about detection system & Arrival information from the high school. Student can use only two door to enter the school building in the morning during....

The issue is what could be called perimeter security. The extensive use of portables at some FCPS MS and HS suburban sites v other districts/divisions and urban site plans. Considering the new metal detectors will the boundary review thresholds be reconfigured to not include the modular capacity and net of trailers actively used for instruction trailers? I think it was 105% including modulars.

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Anonymous wrote:This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

Gatehouse wanted to join again.

That's funny, I just posted about locking up FCPS employees on the abortion thread. I'm a parent, I support the security measures.

No one cares.

I was accused of being an FCPS employee, I'm allowed to respond.

So what school?

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Anonymous wrote:Every new school year, school bus operation is problematic in the first several weeks.This may cause more challenges for students to arrive the checkpoints early enough.

One of the many issues last year was the buses continued to hold kids on the buses until the official time they were allowed to "get off". So 20+ bus loads of kids were all lining up at the exact same time. They need to let kids into the building as the buses arrive, whether its before 7:40 on the dot or not.

They won't be able to do this because now they are pulling administration staff off of traffic duty, carpool lines and minitoring the school common areas, to run metal detectors.

The poster whose daughter was OK may not be a lier. The poster mentioned that he/she dropped daughter at school. So, the poster can control the time the student arriving school. I just don't know how many parents can do this. Some parents' work place is at the opposite direction from driving to the school. We live not too far not close enough to school. It takes around 45 minutes walking but half of the road has no side walk. School bus pickup time is 7:40am. There were quite a few times last year, the school bus arrived after 8:00. We can't drop our kid at school in early morning due to conflict schedule. We'll see how it works in the first two weeks. We are considering let our high schooler walk or bike to school, just need to be very careful at the busy part of the road.

Anonymous wrote:They only put 6 metal detectors in at the supersized schools?

I think Gatehouse staff shoyd be assigned to man these in the morning before theie regular workday. A few can stand outside in the rain to
monitor the thousands of students in line outside.

Yep.

500 students for 1 metal detector. 30 minutes to get through the line and in the classroom before all doors are locked. Anyone not in the classroom by the time the doors are locked will be marked tardy and require a staff escort to class, according to our school's open house.

Fcps did not plan this out well at all.

Reid gets a 4:1 security ratio.

The big high schools get a 500:1 metal detector to student ratio.

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Anonymous wrote:This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

Gatehouse wanted to join again.

That's funny, I just posted about locking up FCPS employees on the abortion thread. I'm a parent, I support the security measures.

No one cares.

I was accused of being an FCPS employee, I'm allowed to respond.

So what school?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

Gatehouse wanted to join again.

That's funny, I just posted about locking up FCPS employees on the abortion thread. I'm a parent, I support the security measures.

No one cares.

I was accused of being an FCPS employee, I'm allowed to respond.

Anonymous wrote:This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

School name please?

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Anonymous wrote:This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

Gatehouse wanted to join again.

That's funny, I just posted about locking up FCPS employees on the abortion thread. I'm a parent, I support the security measures.

No one cares.

Anonymous wrote:Clearly that one mom is a Gatehouse employee posing as a parent.

Think about it for one sec. It completely defies logic that 2000+ students could possibly be screened by only 2 metal detectors in 15 minutes. It is simply not humanly possible.

It's FCPS math

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Anonymous wrote:This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

Gatehouse wanted to join again.

That's funny, I just posted about locking up FCPS employees on the abortion thread. I'm a parent, I support the security measures.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think all the pro-metal detector/everything is great! posts are from one Gatehouse employee. Every parent and student and teacher thought the rollout, execution and lines were absurd theater.

Just a parent who actually does research, has conversations with the school and asks a lot of questions. Better to get informed than speculate and criticize in an online forum.

LOL we are parent with kids who already went through it.

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Anonymous wrote:In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

Gatehouse is this you....my kid was constantly losing 30-45 minutes of instructional time in History class and he was there 20 mins early. Stop talking at people you sound dumb and like you are sitting behind a comfy desk trying to make it all seem ok.

Nope I’m a parent like you with common sense. Are you talking about last year because of course they didn’t have a full fleet of metal detectors, they were testing it out. Highly doubt it took your son an hour to get through.

Nah you aren't a parent but keep defending gatehouse.

Anonymous wrote:This was fine at our high school last year. I don't get all of the hysteria.

Gatehouse wanted to join again.