Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck finding young men who want to get married at 25. They are few and far between.

They are plentiful. They are just boring and unattractive.

Anonymous wrote:Good luck finding young men who want to get married at 25. They are few and far between.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused what choices you think women are making wrong? I can think of at least 5 women I know who reaches 39 and became a smbc via ivf because they stillcouldn't find a partner..nearly every couple I know, myself included, who struggled with infertility after 35 is because they met late in life. Was not not looking for a partner in my 20s. I traveled in my early 30s because I had time and money and was bored but not because i preferred it to having kids, I just didn't meet my partner until 34. I know at least 7 women who froze eggs because single...this isn't a surprise to any of us, we just couldn't find partners. I know multiple 40+ year old women who are still single and wish they could've found a partner to have kids

I don’t think most are making poor choices, things happen that we don’t plan and plans don’t work out. Some men and women can’t have babies at all. But women who choose to wait until they’re 40+ have to know they’re taking a much higher risk that it won’t happen. We see older women with babies but we don’t see the women who wasn’t as lucky.

So are men. Why is it women you’re concerned with?

Women can only make their own choices. Men have to worry about their own choices.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused what choices you think women are making wrong? I can think of at least 5 women I know who reaches 39 and became a smbc via ivf because they stillcouldn't find a partner..nearly every couple I know, myself included, who struggled with infertility after 35 is because they met late in life. Was not not looking for a partner in my 20s. I traveled in my early 30s because I had time and money and was bored but not because i preferred it to having kids, I just didn't meet my partner until 34. I know at least 7 women who froze eggs because single...this isn't a surprise to any of us, we just couldn't find partners. I know multiple 40+ year old women who are still single and wish they could've found a partner to have kids

I don’t think most are making poor choices, things happen that we don’t plan and plans don’t work out. Some men and women can’t have babies at all. But women who choose to wait until they’re 40+ have to know they’re taking a much higher risk that it won’t happen. We see older women with babies but we don’t see the women who wasn’t as lucky.

So are men. Why is it women you’re concerned with?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I feel like everyone is trying a little too hard to avoid the true answer to the infertility issues. Have children when you are younger. Even the issues highlighted in this article, and thank you to the author for highlighting the misogynistic tenor of infertility (it's NOT always the woman's fault!), many of which can be avoided by not waiting until your junk is ancient.

I get it, it's hugely inconvenient, you aren't as rich as you imagine you may be in your 30s/40s, you want to party and travel, etc.

I fully respect the choice to be child-free. But if you think you want kids, find a spouse and get on it. Don't spend another twenty years dancing around the reasons for infertility or fertility challenges, we know the answer. Have kids when you are younger!


Link for those of you with accounts, I don't know how to gift an article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/freeze-sperm-infertility-chemicals.html

Oh yes, it's so easy. Just go find a spouse and procreate. You sound incredibly young and naive and flat out stupid.

I'm almost 50.

I remember vividly when my much older
Coworker told me, in 2001, that dating in DC was a sh$$ show and I'd never be able to find a husband. Well, she came to my wedding in 2005.

Not naive, not young, not stupid.

It may not be easy, but it's not that hard either. It's a new, arbitrary and unhelpful cultural standard to wait to get married until your mid to late 30s. Couples are creating a fertility problem that doesn't need to exist.

Have children or not, it's no one's business but your own.

But please don't complain about infertility issues if younwaited until you and your partner have no viable biological material left!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I feel like everyone is trying a little too hard to avoid the true answer to the infertility issues. Have children when you are younger. Even the issues highlighted in this article, and thank you to the author for highlighting the misogynistic tenor of infertility (it's NOT always the woman's fault!), many of which can be avoided by not waiting until your junk is ancient.

I get it, it's hugely inconvenient, you aren't as rich as you imagine you may be in your 30s/40s, you want to party and travel, etc.

I fully respect the choice to be child-free. But if you think you want kids, find a spouse and get on it. Don't spend another twenty years dancing around the reasons for infertility or fertility challenges, we know the answer. Have kids when you are younger!


Link for those of you with accounts, I don't know how to gift an article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/freeze-sperm-infertility-chemicals.html

Oh yes, it's so easy. Just go find a spouse and procreate. You sound incredibly young and naive and flat out stupid.

I'm almost 50.

I remember vividly when my much older
Coworker told me, in 2001, that dating in DC was a sh$$ show and I'd never be able to find a husband. Well, she came to my wedding in 2005.

Not naive, not young, not stupid.

It may not be easy, but it's not that hard either. It's a new, arbitrary and unhelpful cultural standard to wait to get married until your mid to late 30s. Couples are creating a fertility problem that doesn't need to exist.

Have children or not, it's no one's business but your own.

But please don't complain about infertility issues if younwaited until you and your partner have no viable biological material left!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I feel like everyone is trying a little too hard to avoid the true answer to the infertility issues. Have children when you are younger. Even the issues highlighted in this article, and thank you to the author for highlighting the misogynistic tenor of infertility (it's NOT always the woman's fault!), many of which can be avoided by not waiting until your junk is ancient.

I get it, it's hugely inconvenient, you aren't as rich as you imagine you may be in your 30s/40s, you want to party and travel, etc.

I fully respect the choice to be child-free. But if you think you want kids, find a spouse and get on it. Don't spend another twenty years dancing around the reasons for infertility or fertility challenges, we know the answer. Have kids when you are younger!


Link for those of you with accounts, I don't know how to gift an article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/freeze-sperm-infertility-chemicals.html

Oh yes, it's so easy. Just go find a spouse and procreate. You sound incredibly young and naive and flat out stupid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused what choices you think women are making wrong? I can think of at least 5 women I know who reaches 39 and became a smbc via ivf because they stillcouldn't find a partner..nearly every couple I know, myself included, who struggled with infertility after 35 is because they met late in life. Was not not looking for a partner in my 20s. I traveled in my early 30s because I had time and money and was bored but not because i preferred it to having kids, I just didn't meet my partner until 34. I know at least 7 women who froze eggs because single...this isn't a surprise to any of us, we just couldn't find partners. I know multiple 40+ year old women who are still single and wish they could've found a partner to have kids

I don’t think most are making poor choices, things happen that we don’t plan and plans don’t work out. Some men and women can’t have babies at all. But women who choose to wait until they’re 40+ have to know they’re taking a much higher risk that it won’t happen. We see older women with babies but we don’t see the women who wasn’t as lucky.

So are men. Why is it women you’re concerned with?

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I feel like everyone is trying a little too hard to avoid the true answer to the infertility issues. Have children when you are younger. Even the issues highlighted in this article, and thank you to the author for highlighting the misogynistic tenor of infertility (it's NOT always the woman's fault!), many of which can be avoided by not waiting until your junk is ancient.

I get it, it's hugely inconvenient, you aren't as rich as you imagine you may be in your 30s/40s, you want to party and travel, etc.

I fully respect the choice to be child-free. But if you think you want kids, find a spouse and get on it. Don't spend another twenty years dancing around the reasons for infertility or fertility challenges, we know the answer. Have kids when you are younger!


Link for those of you with accounts, I don't know how to gift an article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/freeze-sperm-infertility-chemicals.html

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I feel like everyone is trying a little too hard to avoid the true answer to the infertility issues. Have children when you are younger. Even the issues highlighted in this article, and thank you to the author for highlighting the misogynistic tenor of infertility (it's NOT always the woman's fault!), many of which can be avoided by not waiting until your junk is ancient.

I get it, it's hugely inconvenient, you aren't as rich as you imagine you may be in your 30s/40s, you want to party and travel, etc.

I fully respect the choice to be child-free. But if you think you want kids, find a spouse and get on it. Don't spend another twenty years dancing around the reasons for infertility or fertility challenges, we know the answer. Have kids when you are younger!


Link for those of you with accounts, I don't know how to gift an article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/freeze-sperm-infertility-chemicals.html

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I feel like everyone is trying a little too hard to avoid the true answer to the infertility issues. Have children when you are younger. Even the issues highlighted in this article, and thank you to the author for highlighting the misogynistic tenor of infertility (it's NOT always the woman's fault!), many of which can be avoided by not waiting until your junk is ancient.

I get it, it's hugely inconvenient, you aren't as rich as you imagine you may be in your 30s/40s, you want to party and travel, etc.

I fully respect the choice to be child-free. But if you think you want kids, find a spouse and get on it. Don't spend another twenty years dancing around the reasons for infertility or fertility challenges, we know the answer. Have kids when you are younger!


Link for those of you with accounts, I don't know how to gift an article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/freeze-sperm-infertility-chemicals.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused what choices you think women are making wrong? I can think of at least 5 women I know who reaches 39 and became a smbc via ivf because they stillcouldn't find a partner..nearly every couple I know, myself included, who struggled with infertility after 35 is because they met late in life. Was not not looking for a partner in my 20s. I traveled in my early 30s because I had time and money and was bored but not because i preferred it to having kids, I just didn't meet my partner until 34. I know at least 7 women who froze eggs because single...this isn't a surprise to any of us, we just couldn't find partners. I know multiple 40+ year old women who are still single and wish they could've found a partner to have kids

I don’t think most are making poor choices, things happen that we don’t plan and plans don’t work out. Some men and women can’t have babies at all. But women who choose to wait until they’re 40+ have to know they’re taking a much higher risk that it won’t happen. We see older women with babies but we don’t see the women who wasn’t as lucky.

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused what choices you think women are making wrong? I can think of at least 5 women I know who reaches 39 and became a smbc via ivf because they stillcouldn't find a partner..nearly every couple I know, myself included, who struggled with infertility after 35 is because they met late in life. Was not not looking for a partner in my 20s. I traveled in my early 30s because I had time and money and was bored but not because i preferred it to having kids, I just didn't meet my partner until 34. I know at least 7 women who froze eggs because single...this isn't a surprise to any of us, we just couldn't find partners. I know multiple 40+ year old women who are still single and wish they could've found a partner to have kids