Anonymous
07/10/2025 09:52
Subject: TX flood and climate change
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/07/09/us/camp-mystic-texas-cabins.html
For decades, girls have flocked to Camp Mystic to spend their summer days canoeing and fishing the Guadalupe River before retreating to bunk beds in rustic cabins just steps from the glimmering water.
Many of those cabins were built in designated flood zones, records show, and some were so close to the river’s edge that they were considered part of the river’s “floodway” — a corridor of such extreme hazard that many states and counties ban or severely restrict construction there. Texas’ Kerr County, where Camp Mystic is located, adopted its own stringent floodway rules, which required that construction in such areas be limited in order to better “protect human life.”
But six years ago, when Camp Mystic pursued a $5 million construction project to overhaul and expand its private, for-profit Christian camp, no effort was made to relocate the most at-risk cabins away from the river. Instead, local officials authorized the construction of new cabins in another part of the camp — including some that also lie in a designated flood-risk area. The older ones along the river remained in use.
Unbelievable-profit hungry camp owners+ incompetent local officials = dead kids
Anonymous
07/10/2025 08:26
Subject: TX flood and climate change
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/07/09/us/camp-mystic-texas-cabins.html
For decades, girls have flocked to Camp Mystic to spend their summer days canoeing and fishing the Guadalupe River before retreating to bunk beds in rustic cabins just steps from the glimmering water.
Many of those cabins were built in designated flood zones, records show, and some were so close to the river’s edge that they were considered part of the river’s “floodway” — a corridor of such extreme hazard that many states and counties ban or severely restrict construction there. Texas’ Kerr County, where Camp Mystic is located, adopted its own stringent floodway rules, which required that construction in such areas be limited in order to better “protect human life.”
But six years ago, when Camp Mystic pursued a $5 million construction project to overhaul and expand its private, for-profit Christian camp, no effort was made to relocate the most at-risk cabins away from the river. Instead, local officials authorized the construction of new cabins in another part of the camp — including some that also lie in a designated flood-risk area. The older ones along the river remained in use.
For decades, girls have flocked to Camp Mystic to spend their summer days canoeing and fishing the Guadalupe River before retreating to bunk beds in rustic cabins just steps from the glimmering water.
Many of those cabins were built in designated flood zones, records show, and some were so close to the river’s edge that they were considered part of the river’s “floodway” — a corridor of such extreme hazard that many states and counties ban or severely restrict construction there. Texas’ Kerr County, where Camp Mystic is located, adopted its own stringent floodway rules, which required that construction in such areas be limited in order to better “protect human life.”
But six years ago, when Camp Mystic pursued a $5 million construction project to overhaul and expand its private, for-profit Christian camp, no effort was made to relocate the most at-risk cabins away from the river. Instead, local officials authorized the construction of new cabins in another part of the camp — including some that also lie in a designated flood-risk area. The older ones along the river remained in use.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 17:04
Subject: TX flood and climate change
Texans do not care about protecting the lives of children. Remember Uvalde? Nothing changed. Nothing will change after the Camp Mystic flood. I'd bet a lot of money on this.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 14:27
Subject: Re:TX flood and climate change
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it is dumb to build on flood zones, fire zones, fault lines, anywhere that will make a structure crumble. Even dumber not to have emergency systems in place.
The folks in Texas thought they were blessed and couldn't imagine God doesn't truly favor them. Wanna bet that to them, having a system in place signaled a lack of faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Cite?
I know there people personally..They think they are "blessed" and no natural disasters will ever happen to them.
They also don't "believe" in climate change.
I’m sure you know what your anecdata is worth then.
I'm sure you know how and why those cowboy sheriffs and leaders voted the way they did when making decisions about safety of children, campers, families, pets, and tourists that cost money.
If it costs money, they don't care. If it costs money, but would save lives or homes, they don't care.
It's easier (and cheaper) to pretend to be "blessed" and then weep when bad things inevitably happen.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 13:41
Subject: Re:TX flood and climate change
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it is dumb to build on flood zones, fire zones, fault lines, anywhere that will make a structure crumble. Even dumber not to have emergency systems in place.
The folks in Texas thought they were blessed and couldn't imagine God doesn't truly favor them. Wanna bet that to them, having a system in place signaled a lack of faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Cite?
I know there people personally..They think they are "blessed" and no natural disasters will ever happen to them.
They also don't "believe" in climate change.
Well, I live here and you can f off.
My uncle moved down to Kerr county about 10 years ago and has been helping with relief efforts and posting pictures of the aftermath. But yeah, as conservative as he is, he’s a bit aghast at some of the local stupidity and the hubris that led to it.
and the hubris that led to it.
Can you give any examples?
Not thinking safety of citizens and visitors to the area was worth the financial cost. Overly confident a warning system not needed when the area is near a river and known for flash floods.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 12:37
Subject: TX flood and climate change
Texas really does not care about this stuff. Planning, storm water control, emergency services, etc are seen as needless rules and regulations. This will just be covered up and the victims will be blamed. Look for a scapegoat- the poorest people they can find.
Texas politicians are corrupt and cowards but they do reflect the people who voted them in office. Remember the Uvalde school shooting? Absolutely nothing has been done about that. They act like it never happened.
Texas politicians are corrupt and cowards but they do reflect the people who voted them in office. Remember the Uvalde school shooting? Absolutely nothing has been done about that. They act like it never happened.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 11:52
Subject: Re:TX flood and climate change
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it is dumb to build on flood zones, fire zones, fault lines, anywhere that will make a structure crumble. Even dumber not to have emergency systems in place.
The folks in Texas thought they were blessed and couldn't imagine God doesn't truly favor them. Wanna bet that to them, having a system in place signaled a lack of faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Cite?
I know there people personally..They think they are "blessed" and no natural disasters will ever happen to them.
They also don't "believe" in climate change.
I’m sure you know what your anecdata is worth then.
I'm sure you know how and why those cowboy sheriffs and leaders voted the way they did when making decisions about safety of children, campers, families, pets, and tourists that cost money.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 11:20
Subject: Re:TX flood and climate change
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it is dumb to build on flood zones, fire zones, fault lines, anywhere that will make a structure crumble. Even dumber not to have emergency systems in place.
The folks in Texas thought they were blessed and couldn't imagine God doesn't truly favor them. Wanna bet that to them, having a system in place signaled a lack of faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Cite?
I know there people personally..They think they are "blessed" and no natural disasters will ever happen to them.
They also don't "believe" in climate change.
I’m sure you know what your anecdata is worth then.