Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am Black American. I'm not carrying my "papers". This is not the fugitive slave act. Plus, this is one time I believe we are the model minority. Haven't heard of any American blacks being caught up in the immigration thing. What my black friends talk about is how the other races were so afraid of being "othered" and want to be white and assimilate so badly, they are SHOCKED that they are being targeted. It's as if black people didn't try to warn y'all it wouldn't go well.
I don’t think Latinos are “shocked” that they are targeted. They’ve been mistreated for a long time now. Also Black Americans are no more likely to be profiled than White Americans. Black Africans are being targeted though, there are not nearly as many as Latinos so there’s not as much news.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am Black American. I'm not carrying my "papers". This is not the fugitive slave act. Plus, this is one time I believe we are the model minority. Haven't heard of any American blacks being caught up in the immigration thing. What my black friends talk about is how the other races were so afraid of being "othered" and want to be white and assimilate so badly, they are SHOCKED that they are being targeted. It's as if black people didn't try to warn y'all it wouldn't go well.
I don’t think Latinos are “shocked” that they are targeted. They’ve been mistreated for a long time now. Also Black Americans are no more likely to be profiled than White Americans. Black Africans are being targeted though, there are not nearly as many as Latinos so there’s not as much news.
Anonymous wrote:I am Black American. I'm not carrying my "papers". This is not the fugitive slave act. Plus, this is one time I believe we are the model minority. Haven't heard of any American blacks being caught up in the immigration thing. What my black friends talk about is how the other races were so afraid of being "othered" and want to be white and assimilate so badly, they are SHOCKED that they are being targeted. It's as if black people didn't try to warn y'all it wouldn't go well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Talking with some friends (who are all minorities) and they said they have taken to carrying their passport cards and other identification with them at all times. I usually carry my drivers license but that doesn’t show place of birth. Should I carry my passport just in case?
I am nervous because I was not born here but am a naturalized citizen. I am out with my kids alone a lot. I sincerely cannot imagine what would happen if ICE took me and just left my young kids to fend for themselves.
It will not do any good. They are deliberately not identifying people when they pick them up. Quite a few US citizens have been arrested and have not been heard from. They just do not care about the laws and right or wrong.
Tell us about just one.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Talking with some friends (who are all minorities) and they said they have taken to carrying their passport cards and other identification with them at all times. I usually carry my drivers license but that doesn’t show place of birth. Should I carry my passport just in case?
I am nervous because I was not born here but am a naturalized citizen. I am out with my kids alone a lot. I sincerely cannot imagine what would happen if ICE took me and just left my young kids to fend for themselves.
Yes, I think I would.
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In which countries abroad is it not recommended that you carry your ID?
Zero.
Anonymous wrote:Talking with some friends (who are all minorities) and they said they have taken to carrying their passport cards and other identification with them at all times. I usually carry my drivers license but that doesn’t show place of birth. Should I carry my passport just in case?
I am nervous because I was not born here but am a naturalized citizen. I am out with my kids alone a lot. I sincerely cannot imagine what would happen if ICE took me and just left my young kids to fend for themselves.
Anonymous wrote:
In which countries abroad is it not recommended that you carry your ID?
Zero.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Passport to expire next year. Should I send it out for a new one now instead of waiting? Minority, born in U.S., parents immigrated 50 yrs ago and are naturalized citizens.
Is it even safe to send in the passport?… part of me is afraid they won’t send a new one back and then I have no proof.
Anyone send theirs in recently for renewal?
You really think some consular officer is going to keep your passport because you're a minority? You do realize how progressive the State Department workforce is, right?
This level of hysteria is not relatable to most Americans. This is like when people were upset that people were running outside or playing tennis outdoors without a mask in 2021. It makes people think, "what kind of mental illness is this" vs "they have a great point and I should join them."
+1. I am not a Trump supporter and think that he’s doing a lot of damage, but come on. This level of paranoia is concerning and does not inspire confidence in people who are suggesting stuff like this is likely to happen.
So, not-a-Trump-supporter, please tell us exactly what is “likely to happen” and how you know this, so that the rest of us can prepare for it.
Also, please note if you’re not a member of a minority group — since that may impact your ability to accurately assess “paranoia” with respect to people whose individual and collective lived experiences might have been very different from your own. TIA
PP here. I’m a visible minority (Indian heritage) with immigrant parents who are naturalized citizens. This administration is pretty unpredictable, so I’m not making predictions about what is likely to happen.
I’m simply saying, I think people who are urging U.S. citizen minorities to “carry their papers” because being non-white apparently makes you vulnerable to random detainment (and deportation?) on the street by ICE are being insane. I do not think I’m in danger walking to work, running on my usual path, going to the grocery store, eating in restaurants, or doing any of my day to day activities. I absolutely think people who are suggesting this are being hysterical.
If I worked in a meat processing plant that employed a high number of undocumented workers, then yes, I would probably bring my citizenship documents to work in case of a raid. That’s not what the argument here is about.