Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The younger generations have learned not to put up with the bad behavior of older generations that was allowed by society.
Respect your elders is dead to the younger generation.
Respect is earned. Disrespect is met with disrespect right back.
Frankly, as an elder Millennial who suffered through many years of Boomer abuse in customer service jobs, I love to see it.
Nah, it's the perception of boomer abuse, and likely what you think is abuse. Boomers actually were a very lenient generation compared to previous generations and that's how we got here. Very self absorbed millennials and Gen Z. Can't WAIT for their offspring to claim their flag. Lol. I already see that $#!÷÷ show. Go into the schools.
My boomer MIL was sexually abusing my spouse. It wasn’t that lenient.
Well, hate to tell you that this has nothing to do with Boomers. I certainly wouldn't characterize a whole generation of people based upon your criminal MIL. There's people like that in every generation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The younger generations have learned not to put up with the bad behavior of older generations that was allowed by society.
Respect your elders is dead to the younger generation.
Respect is earned. Disrespect is met with disrespect right back.
Frankly, as an elder Millennial who suffered through many years of Boomer abuse in customer service jobs, I love to see it.
Nah, it's the perception of boomer abuse, and likely what you think is abuse. Boomers actually were a very lenient generation compared to previous generations and that's how we got here. Very self absorbed millennials and Gen Z. Can't WAIT for their offspring to claim their flag. Lol. I already see that $#!÷÷ show. Go into the schools.
My boomer MIL was sexually abusing my spouse. It wasn’t that lenient.
Well, hate to tell you that this has nothing to do with Boomers. I certainly wouldn't characterize a whole generation of people based upon your criminal MIL. There's people like that in every generation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is YES. Internet therapy and therapy speak has emboldened a whole generation of MeMeMe. It's also the precursor of the sidelining of one's parents so as not to ever have to care for them later. Ok, yeah that's hard, but...
That said, there will be a million people coming here with stories of actual abuse, ok, but that's not what's generally going on here. So many people cut off for the dumbest of reasons, and it's pervasive. Daughter in law took a comment the wrong way, jealousy among siblings, Geandma suggested a bottle feeding outside of a schedule, didn't come to all the ballet recitals, on and on.
I have never heard of a single person being cut off for these reasons alone— only when the parent refuses to apologize for, say, the comment the DiL “took that wrong way” or for uneven resources for children or for meddling in parenting.
My parents had favorites. But they are (and were) honest and emotionally mature people who didn’t try to convince us our reality was wrong. They acknowledged it and made sure in the ways these things really matter, we all received equally.
If they pretended that wasn’t the case they’d be estranged from at least one and probably all of us by now.
You are immediately assuming an apology is needed. Sometimes it is a daughter in law or son- and just ridiculous stuff. One friend's daughter in law cut all contact with her inlaws, and that includes no access to son and grandchildren because mother was in a fender bender on the way to babysit, and was late, preventing DIL from being able to go with her friends to a golf party. She had to drive separately to the party. Afterwards, the next day, she was still mad about that but also she insisted MIL shouldn't be driving the kids anymore because of the fender bender. The fender bender happened when a drunk teenager side swiped the mother's car, with minimal damage, and hit 2 others badly. The mother stayed on the scene to aid the other two, and the teen until the police came. DIL was angry because mother " had made a commitment to her to be there at a certain time", causing her to miss out on the group drive. The mother is 60 and an excellent driver, no record of anything. When MIL tried to explain why she stayed she was escorted to the door and called a narcissist. Why? She was making decisions for her own well being, and not DIL, which includes the driving edict. MiL is so distraught she is in therapy. Therapist says she deals with this s#!++ all the time.
And yes, I know quite a lot of people who were cut off for similar rubbish. Your reality might actually be wrong, and that is what is missing- all blame goes to not just the parents, but actually the mother. It's so pervasive, it's almost natural to assume all of this.
And so MiL knows why she was cut off, and doesn’t “agree” with the reason. She would rather be cut off than make amends. Sounds like a choice.
Make amends for WHAT? Who would ever agree with that reason? And you don't see the problem here? Good lord.
“The problem” for the MIL is that she’s been cut off from her kid and grandkids right? No one needs to agree with the reason they’ve been cut off— she can apologize and see if she’ll be taken back or is there are steps she can take to restore the relationship… or she can just continue complaining about it.
Based on your posting, I assume she’s chosen the complaint mechanism. Has a 0% success rate but I wish her well.
And be blackmailed everytime her DIL throws a hissy fit? Yeah, no.
That’s a totally reasonable choice. It’s also not the same as being unwillingly estranged for an offense she “has no idea” of.
She’s estranged bevagse she doesn’t agree with her son and daughter in laws perspective on something she did. I get there’s no cache for her in saying that but it’s incredibly attention-seeking and drama llama to pretend she isn’t choosing this.
So, you think the MIL is attention seeking? Lol. Ok, here it is,this is exactly why millennials and Z are full of it when it comes to this BS. Come on.
So, she does "know why" and no, the only person who needs to apologize is pretty clear. Good grief.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is YES. Internet therapy and therapy speak has emboldened a whole generation of MeMeMe. It's also the precursor of the sidelining of one's parents so as not to ever have to care for them later. Ok, yeah that's hard, but...
That said, there will be a million people coming here with stories of actual abuse, ok, but that's not what's generally going on here. So many people cut off for the dumbest of reasons, and it's pervasive. Daughter in law took a comment the wrong way, jealousy among siblings, Geandma suggested a bottle feeding outside of a schedule, didn't come to all the ballet recitals, on and on.
I have never heard of a single person being cut off for these reasons alone— only when the parent refuses to apologize for, say, the comment the DiL “took that wrong way” or for uneven resources for children or for meddling in parenting.
My parents had favorites. But they are (and were) honest and emotionally mature people who didn’t try to convince us our reality was wrong. They acknowledged it and made sure in the ways these things really matter, we all received equally.
If they pretended that wasn’t the case they’d be estranged from at least one and probably all of us by now.
You are immediately assuming an apology is needed. Sometimes it is a daughter in law or son- and just ridiculous stuff. One friend's daughter in law cut all contact with her inlaws, and that includes no access to son and grandchildren because mother was in a fender bender on the way to babysit, and was late, preventing DIL from being able to go with her friends to a golf party. She had to drive separately to the party. Afterwards, the next day, she was still mad about that but also she insisted MIL shouldn't be driving the kids anymore because of the fender bender. The fender bender happened when a drunk teenager side swiped the mother's car, with minimal damage, and hit 2 others badly. The mother stayed on the scene to aid the other two, and the teen until the police came. DIL was angry because mother " had made a commitment to her to be there at a certain time", causing her to miss out on the group drive. The mother is 60 and an excellent driver, no record of anything. When MIL tried to explain why she stayed she was escorted to the door and called a narcissist. Why? She was making decisions for her own well being, and not DIL, which includes the driving edict. MiL is so distraught she is in therapy. Therapist says she deals with this s#!++ all the time.
And yes, I know quite a lot of people who were cut off for similar rubbish. Your reality might actually be wrong, and that is what is missing- all blame goes to not just the parents, but actually the mother. It's so pervasive, it's almost natural to assume all of this.
And so MiL knows why she was cut off, and doesn’t “agree” with the reason. She would rather be cut off than make amends. Sounds like a choice.
Make amends for WHAT? Who would ever agree with that reason? And you don't see the problem here? Good lord.
“The problem” for the MIL is that she’s been cut off from her kid and grandkids right? No one needs to agree with the reason they’ve been cut off— she can apologize and see if she’ll be taken back or is there are steps she can take to restore the relationship… or she can just continue complaining about it.
Based on your posting, I assume she’s chosen the complaint mechanism. Has a 0% success rate but I wish her well.
And be blackmailed everytime her DIL throws a hissy fit? Yeah, no.
That’s a totally reasonable choice. It’s also not the same as being unwillingly estranged for an offense she “has no idea” of.
She’s estranged bevagse she doesn’t agree with her son and daughter in laws perspective on something she did. I get there’s no cache for her in saying that but it’s incredibly attention-seeking and drama llama to pretend she isn’t choosing this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The younger generations have learned not to put up with the bad behavior of older generations that was allowed by society.
Respect your elders is dead to the younger generation.
Respect is earned. Disrespect is met with disrespect right back.
Frankly, as an elder Millennial who suffered through many years of Boomer abuse in customer service jobs, I love to see it.
Nah, it's the perception of boomer abuse, and likely what you think is abuse. Boomers actually were a very lenient generation compared to previous generations and that's how we got here. Very self absorbed millennials and Gen Z. Can't WAIT for their offspring to claim their flag. Lol. I already see that $#!÷÷ show. Go into the schools.
My boomer MIL was sexually abusing my spouse. It wasn’t that lenient.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The younger generations have learned not to put up with the bad behavior of older generations that was allowed by society.
Respect your elders is dead to the younger generation.
Respect is earned. Disrespect is met with disrespect right back.
Frankly, as an elder Millennial who suffered through many years of Boomer abuse in customer service jobs, I love to see it.
Nah, it's the perception of boomer abuse, and likely what you think is abuse. Boomers actually were a very lenient generation compared to previous generations and that's how we got here. Very self absorbed millennials and Gen Z. Can't WAIT for their offspring to claim their flag. Lol. I already see that $#!÷÷ show. Go into the schools.
Anonymous wrote:That's nonsense.Anonymous wrote:See a lot of it on DCUM. People cutting off parents/family because they voted for Trump and the anxious perpetual sneers/obsessions at "MAGA."
It's never the other way around. Which is food for thought.
Conservatives have cut off their LGBTQ+ relatives, including their kids, since the dawn of time. There's even a suicide hotline for this.
Religious folks often cut off those who leave their faith.
Conservatives often cut off family members who marry someone of a different religion, race or heritage. Or they're just awful to the person until the couple feel the need to distance themselves.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is YES. Internet therapy and therapy speak has emboldened a whole generation of MeMeMe. It's also the precursor of the sidelining of one's parents so as not to ever have to care for them later. Ok, yeah that's hard, but...
That said, there will be a million people coming here with stories of actual abuse, ok, but that's not what's generally going on here. So many people cut off for the dumbest of reasons, and it's pervasive. Daughter in law took a comment the wrong way, jealousy among siblings, Geandma suggested a bottle feeding outside of a schedule, didn't come to all the ballet recitals, on and on.
I have never heard of a single person being cut off for these reasons alone— only when the parent refuses to apologize for, say, the comment the DiL “took that wrong way” or for uneven resources for children or for meddling in parenting.
My parents had favorites. But they are (and were) honest and emotionally mature people who didn’t try to convince us our reality was wrong. They acknowledged it and made sure in the ways these things really matter, we all received equally.
If they pretended that wasn’t the case they’d be estranged from at least one and probably all of us by now.
You are immediately assuming an apology is needed. Sometimes it is a daughter in law or son- and just ridiculous stuff. One friend's daughter in law cut all contact with her inlaws, and that includes no access to son and grandchildren because mother was in a fender bender on the way to babysit, and was late, preventing DIL from being able to go with her friends to a golf party. She had to drive separately to the party. Afterwards, the next day, she was still mad about that but also she insisted MIL shouldn't be driving the kids anymore because of the fender bender. The fender bender happened when a drunk teenager side swiped the mother's car, with minimal damage, and hit 2 others badly. The mother stayed on the scene to aid the other two, and the teen until the police came. DIL was angry because mother " had made a commitment to her to be there at a certain time", causing her to miss out on the group drive. The mother is 60 and an excellent driver, no record of anything. When MIL tried to explain why she stayed she was escorted to the door and called a narcissist. Why? She was making decisions for her own well being, and not DIL, which includes the driving edict. MiL is so distraught she is in therapy. Therapist says she deals with this s#!++ all the time.
And yes, I know quite a lot of people who were cut off for similar rubbish. Your reality might actually be wrong, and that is what is missing- all blame goes to not just the parents, but actually the mother. It's so pervasive, it's almost natural to assume all of this.
And so MiL knows why she was cut off, and doesn’t “agree” with the reason. She would rather be cut off than make amends. Sounds like a choice.
Make amends for WHAT? Who would ever agree with that reason? And you don't see the problem here? Good lord.
“The problem” for the MIL is that she’s been cut off from her kid and grandkids right? No one needs to agree with the reason they’ve been cut off— she can apologize and see if she’ll be taken back or is there are steps she can take to restore the relationship… or she can just continue complaining about it.
Based on your posting, I assume she’s chosen the complaint mechanism. Has a 0% success rate but I wish her well.
And be blackmailed everytime her DIL throws a hissy fit? Yeah, no.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is YES. Internet therapy and therapy speak has emboldened a whole generation of MeMeMe. It's also the precursor of the sidelining of one's parents so as not to ever have to care for them later. Ok, yeah that's hard, but...
That said, there will be a million people coming here with stories of actual abuse, ok, but that's not what's generally going on here. So many people cut off for the dumbest of reasons, and it's pervasive. Daughter in law took a comment the wrong way, jealousy among siblings, Geandma suggested a bottle feeding outside of a schedule, didn't come to all the ballet recitals, on and on.
I have never heard of a single person being cut off for these reasons alone— only when the parent refuses to apologize for, say, the comment the DiL “took that wrong way” or for uneven resources for children or for meddling in parenting.
My parents had favorites. But they are (and were) honest and emotionally mature people who didn’t try to convince us our reality was wrong. They acknowledged it and made sure in the ways these things really matter, we all received equally.
If they pretended that wasn’t the case they’d be estranged from at least one and probably all of us by now.
You are immediately assuming an apology is needed. Sometimes it is a daughter in law or son- and just ridiculous stuff. One friend's daughter in law cut all contact with her inlaws, and that includes no access to son and grandchildren because mother was in a fender bender on the way to babysit, and was late, preventing DIL from being able to go with her friends to a golf party. She had to drive separately to the party. Afterwards, the next day, she was still mad about that but also she insisted MIL shouldn't be driving the kids anymore because of the fender bender. The fender bender happened when a drunk teenager side swiped the mother's car, with minimal damage, and hit 2 others badly. The mother stayed on the scene to aid the other two, and the teen until the police came. DIL was angry because mother " had made a commitment to her to be there at a certain time", causing her to miss out on the group drive. The mother is 60 and an excellent driver, no record of anything. When MIL tried to explain why she stayed she was escorted to the door and called a narcissist. Why? She was making decisions for her own well being, and not DIL, which includes the driving edict. MiL is so distraught she is in therapy. Therapist says she deals with this s#!++ all the time.
And yes, I know quite a lot of people who were cut off for similar rubbish. Your reality might actually be wrong, and that is what is missing- all blame goes to not just the parents, but actually the mother. It's so pervasive, it's almost natural to assume all of this.
And so MiL knows why she was cut off, and doesn’t “agree” with the reason. She would rather be cut off than make amends. Sounds like a choice.
Make amends for WHAT? Who would ever agree with that reason? And you don't see the problem here? Good lord.
“The problem” for the MIL is that she’s been cut off from her kid and grandkids right? No one needs to agree with the reason they’ve been cut off— she can apologize and see if she’ll be taken back or is there are steps she can take to restore the relationship… or she can just continue complaining about it.
Based on your posting, I assume she’s chosen the complaint mechanism. Has a 0% success rate but I wish her well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is YES. Internet therapy and therapy speak has emboldened a whole generation of MeMeMe. It's also the precursor of the sidelining of one's parents so as not to ever have to care for them later. Ok, yeah that's hard, but...
That said, there will be a million people coming here with stories of actual abuse, ok, but that's not what's generally going on here. So many people cut off for the dumbest of reasons, and it's pervasive. Daughter in law took a comment the wrong way, jealousy among siblings, Geandma suggested a bottle feeding outside of a schedule, didn't come to all the ballet recitals, on and on.
I have never heard of a single person being cut off for these reasons alone— only when the parent refuses to apologize for, say, the comment the DiL “took that wrong way” or for uneven resources for children or for meddling in parenting.
My parents had favorites. But they are (and were) honest and emotionally mature people who didn’t try to convince us our reality was wrong. They acknowledged it and made sure in the ways these things really matter, we all received equally.
If they pretended that wasn’t the case they’d be estranged from at least one and probably all of us by now.
You are immediately assuming an apology is needed. Sometimes it is a daughter in law or son- and just ridiculous stuff. One friend's daughter in law cut all contact with her inlaws, and that includes no access to son and grandchildren because mother was in a fender bender on the way to babysit, and was late, preventing DIL from being able to go with her friends to a golf party. She had to drive separately to the party. Afterwards, the next day, she was still mad about that but also she insisted MIL shouldn't be driving the kids anymore because of the fender bender. The fender bender happened when a drunk teenager side swiped the mother's car, with minimal damage, and hit 2 others badly. The mother stayed on the scene to aid the other two, and the teen until the police came. DIL was angry because mother " had made a commitment to her to be there at a certain time", causing her to miss out on the group drive. The mother is 60 and an excellent driver, no record of anything. When MIL tried to explain why she stayed she was escorted to the door and called a narcissist. Why? She was making decisions for her own well being, and not DIL, which includes the driving edict. MiL is so distraught she is in therapy. Therapist says she deals with this s#!++ all the time.
And yes, I know quite a lot of people who were cut off for similar rubbish. Your reality might actually be wrong, and that is what is missing- all blame goes to not just the parents, but actually the mother. It's so pervasive, it's almost natural to assume all of this.
And so MiL knows why she was cut off, and doesn’t “agree” with the reason. She would rather be cut off than make amends. Sounds like a choice.
Make amends for WHAT? Who would ever agree with that reason? And you don't see the problem here? Good lord.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is YES. Internet therapy and therapy speak has emboldened a whole generation of MeMeMe. It's also the precursor of the sidelining of one's parents so as not to ever have to care for them later. Ok, yeah that's hard, but...
That said, there will be a million people coming here with stories of actual abuse, ok, but that's not what's generally going on here. So many people cut off for the dumbest of reasons, and it's pervasive. Daughter in law took a comment the wrong way, jealousy among siblings, Geandma suggested a bottle feeding outside of a schedule, didn't come to all the ballet recitals, on and on.
I have never heard of a single person being cut off for these reasons alone— only when the parent refuses to apologize for, say, the comment the DiL “took that wrong way” or for uneven resources for children or for meddling in parenting.
My parents had favorites. But they are (and were) honest and emotionally mature people who didn’t try to convince us our reality was wrong. They acknowledged it and made sure in the ways these things really matter, we all received equally.
If they pretended that wasn’t the case they’d be estranged from at least one and probably all of us by now.
You are immediately assuming an apology is needed. Sometimes it is a daughter in law or son- and just ridiculous stuff. One friend's daughter in law cut all contact with her inlaws, and that includes no access to son and grandchildren because mother was in a fender bender on the way to babysit, and was late, preventing DIL from being able to go with her friends to a golf party. She had to drive separately to the party. Afterwards, the next day, she was still mad about that but also she insisted MIL shouldn't be driving the kids anymore because of the fender bender. The fender bender happened when a drunk teenager side swiped the mother's car, with minimal damage, and hit 2 others badly. The mother stayed on the scene to aid the other two, and the teen until the police came. DIL was angry because mother " had made a commitment to her to be there at a certain time", causing her to miss out on the group drive. The mother is 60 and an excellent driver, no record of anything. When MIL tried to explain why she stayed she was escorted to the door and called a narcissist. Why? She was making decisions for her own well being, and not DIL, which includes the driving edict. MiL is so distraught she is in therapy. Therapist says she deals with this s#!++ all the time.
And yes, I know quite a lot of people who were cut off for similar rubbish. Your reality might actually be wrong, and that is what is missing- all blame goes to not just the parents, but actually the mother. It's so pervasive, it's almost natural to assume all of this.
The DIL may be a piece of work, but no one, NO ONE can cut off access of a grown man to his own mother against his will unless they are holding a gun to his head.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is YES. Internet therapy and therapy speak has emboldened a whole generation of MeMeMe. It's also the precursor of the sidelining of one's parents so as not to ever have to care for them later. Ok, yeah that's hard, but...
That said, there will be a million people coming here with stories of actual abuse, ok, but that's not what's generally going on here. So many people cut off for the dumbest of reasons, and it's pervasive. Daughter in law took a comment the wrong way, jealousy among siblings, Geandma suggested a bottle feeding outside of a schedule, didn't come to all the ballet recitals, on and on.
I have never heard of a single person being cut off for these reasons alone— only when the parent refuses to apologize for, say, the comment the DiL “took that wrong way” or for uneven resources for children or for meddling in parenting.
My parents had favorites. But they are (and were) honest and emotionally mature people who didn’t try to convince us our reality was wrong. They acknowledged it and made sure in the ways these things really matter, we all received equally.
If they pretended that wasn’t the case they’d be estranged from at least one and probably all of us by now.
You are immediately assuming an apology is needed. Sometimes it is a daughter in law or son- and just ridiculous stuff. One friend's daughter in law cut all contact with her inlaws, and that includes no access to son and grandchildren because mother was in a fender bender on the way to babysit, and was late, preventing DIL from being able to go with her friends to a golf party. She had to drive separately to the party. Afterwards, the next day, she was still mad about that but also she insisted MIL shouldn't be driving the kids anymore because of the fender bender. The fender bender happened when a drunk teenager side swiped the mother's car, with minimal damage, and hit 2 others badly. The mother stayed on the scene to aid the other two, and the teen until the police came. DIL was angry because mother " had made a commitment to her to be there at a certain time", causing her to miss out on the group drive. The mother is 60 and an excellent driver, no record of anything. When MIL tried to explain why she stayed she was escorted to the door and called a narcissist. Why? She was making decisions for her own well being, and not DIL, which includes the driving edict. MiL is so distraught she is in therapy. Therapist says she deals with this s#!++ all the time.
And yes, I know quite a lot of people who were cut off for similar rubbish. Your reality might actually be wrong, and that is what is missing- all blame goes to not just the parents, but actually the mother. It's so pervasive, it's almost natural to assume all of this.
And so MiL knows why she was cut off, and doesn’t “agree” with the reason. She would rather be cut off than make amends. Sounds like a choice.
Anonymous wrote:The younger generations have learned not to put up with the bad behavior of older generations that was allowed by society.
Respect your elders is dead to the younger generation.
Respect is earned. Disrespect is met with disrespect right back.
Frankly, as an elder Millennial who suffered through many years of Boomer abuse in customer service jobs, I love to see it.
Anonymous wrote:That's nonsense.Anonymous wrote:See a lot of it on DCUM. People cutting off parents/family because they voted for Trump and the anxious perpetual sneers/obsessions at "MAGA."
It's never the other way around. Which is food for thought.
Conservatives have cut off their LGBTQ+ relatives, including their kids, since the dawn of time. There's even a suicide hotline for this.
Religious folks often cut off those who leave their faith.
Conservatives often cut off family members who marry someone of a different religion, race or heritage. Or they're just awful to the person until the couple feel the need to distance themselves.