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Anonymous wrote:As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

It probably wouldn't take as long or be as expensive if all the resources weren't being allocated to dealing with those coming illegally when they feel like it. And if there are jobs employers can't fill, they are supposed to petition immigrant visa to fill those jobs.

Please. I'm married to an immigrant (similar demographic to PP) who went through the process decades ago. PP is right.

It is not difficult or complicated. It may be expensive and it does take a long time. Walking up to the border is essentially cutting in line of everyone immigrating by the rules. And it is everyone immigrating by the rules that are essentially paying for the those walking up to the border.

There are reasons why there are rules.

Being granted asylum doesn't mean you cut in line. JFC that's the most insane take I've heard so far.

What do you guys have to say about all the ICE arrests of people at immigration courts? You know, the people doing the process the correct, legal way? Imagine being moments away from being granted citizenship after going through the process for 6 years. Watching the video of that guy's defeated face as he was dragged away was heartbreaking. He did everything correctly. He was there for his final hearing to be granted citizenship.

The right doesn't want a safer US. They want a whiter US. Periodt.

Yes it is cutting in line. These people know they can apply for "asylum" and then they are let go into the country to (most likely) never be found). This is basic common sense.

Whiter? Is that why more non-white people voted for Trump this time?

People like you are the reason he won.

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Anonymous wrote:Why weren't all these ppl mad when Obama deported and separated ton's of families? My suggestion for all the social justice warriors is house the illegals in your own home if you are so worried. Be the change you wish to see in the world.

They don't even want them in their schools. They want them to be someone else's problem. Just check the FCPS School thread.

Their home country should be responsible for providing their education.

You have zero idea how immigration works.

Also, the education system in this country clearly failed you so maybe they would be better off.

This is how I know immigration to work.

In the 80's, my uncle and his wife were top students at the top university in their home country. The immigrated to the US. After getting settled, he petitioned for family members to come. We waited for several years in our home country until granted entry. After getting settled, my parents then petitioned for my mothers side of the family to come. They waited for years in their home county until granted entry.

That's how I know immigration to work.

Walking up to the border expecting to be taken into custody and released is not how it is supposed to work. Coming in with a temporary visa and not leaving when it expires is not how it is supposed to work.

Nicely done! Now, please explain how asylum works.

It doesnt. Obviously.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

It probably wouldn't take as long or be as expensive if all the resources weren't being allocated to dealing with those coming illegally when they feel like it. And if there are jobs employers can't fill, they are supposed to petition immigrant visa to fill those jobs.

Please. I'm married to an immigrant (similar demographic to PP) who went through the process decades ago. PP is right.

It is not difficult or complicated. It may be expensive and it does take a long time. Walking up to the border is essentially cutting in line of everyone immigrating by the rules. And it is everyone immigrating by the rules that are essentially paying for the those walking up to the border.

There are reasons why there are rules.

Being granted asylum doesn't mean you cut in line. JFC that's the most insane take I've heard so far.

What do you guys have to say about all the ICE arrests of people at immigration courts? You know, the people doing the process the correct, legal way? Imagine being moments away from being granted citizenship after going through the process for 6 years. Watching the video of that guy's defeated face as he was dragged away was heartbreaking. He did everything correctly. He was there for his final hearing to be granted citizenship.

The right doesn't want a safer US. They want a whiter US. Periodt.

ICE needs to make crazy high quotas for deportations and it's easier to find people who are following the rules and showing up where/when they should, than to find actual criminals in hiding. It's awful.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

It probably wouldn't take as long or be as expensive if all the resources weren't being allocated to dealing with those coming illegally when they feel like it. And if there are jobs employers can't fill, they are supposed to petition immigrant visa to fill those jobs.

Please. I'm married to an immigrant (similar demographic to PP) who went through the process decades ago. PP is right.

It is not difficult or complicated. It may be expensive and it does take a long time. Walking up to the border is essentially cutting in line of everyone immigrating by the rules. And it is everyone immigrating by the rules that are essentially paying for the those walking up to the border.

There are reasons why there are rules.

Being granted asylum doesn't mean you cut in line. JFC that's the most insane take I've heard so far.

What do you guys have to say about all the ICE arrests of people at immigration courts? You know, the people doing the process the correct, legal way? Imagine being moments away from being granted citizenship after going through the process for 6 years. Watching the video of that guy's defeated face as he was dragged away was heartbreaking. He did everything correctly. He was there for his final hearing to be granted citizenship.

The right doesn't want a safer US. They want a whiter US. Periodt.

Loudoun has so far been spared, probably because our Sheriff Chapman is a huge Trump supporter.

I think we can only be spared so much, though. I've seen the LoCo Sheriff's armored BearCat out driving around Leesburg more in the past 4 days than ever since living in Leesburg, which is 25 years now. They don't even put the BearCat in the town parades and anyone who lives in Leesburg knows that they love filling the parades with as much police and military apparatus as possible.

^^^ Yay!

While trumpy had his little parade downtown there were more ICE raids in Tysons over the weekend.

Anonymous wrote:As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

Here is the thing though. All these people are applying for a privilege, not a right. The U.S. or any other country could say no more immigration. A slow process for a privilege is very different than a slow process for a right.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

It probably wouldn't take as long or be as expensive if all the resources weren't being allocated to dealing with those coming illegally when they feel like it. And if there are jobs employers can't fill, they are supposed to petition immigrant visa to fill those jobs.

Please. I'm married to an immigrant (similar demographic to PP) who went through the process decades ago. PP is right.

It is not difficult or complicated. It may be expensive and it does take a long time. Walking up to the border is essentially cutting in line of everyone immigrating by the rules. And it is everyone immigrating by the rules that are essentially paying for the those walking up to the border.

There are reasons why there are rules.

+1 it's not fair to sneak into the country, not claim asylum, live for years or even decades, then get caught and all of a sudden now you are afraid to return to your home country and get to claim defensive asylum. This is a stall tactic because they know it will take years for their case to work through the bloated court system. And then by the time they get to their court date, of course they've had US citizen kids and shouldn't be deported for humanitarian reasons. It's such a scam. If you actually need asylum you would have applied as soon as you snuck in. And even then, you should be held until your application is adjudicated. We've got to change the laws of this country and leave whatever international agreements that require these nonsensical procedures.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

It probably wouldn't take as long or be as expensive if all the resources weren't being allocated to dealing with those coming illegally when they feel like it. And if there are jobs employers can't fill, they are supposed to petition immigrant visa to fill those jobs.

Please. I'm married to an immigrant (similar demographic to PP) who went through the process decades ago. PP is right.

It is not difficult or complicated. It may be expensive and it does take a long time. Walking up to the border is essentially cutting in line of everyone immigrating by the rules. And it is everyone immigrating by the rules that are essentially paying for the those walking up to the border.

There are reasons why there are rules.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

It probably wouldn't take as long or be as expensive if all the resources weren't being allocated to dealing with those coming illegally when they feel like it. And if there are jobs employers can't fill, they are supposed to petition immigrant visa to fill those jobs.

Please. I'm married to an immigrant (similar demographic to PP) who went through the process decades ago. PP is right.

Anonymous wrote:As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

It probably wouldn't take as long or be as expensive if all the resources weren't being allocated to dealing with those coming illegally when they feel like it. And if there are jobs employers can't fill, they are supposed to petition immigrant visa to fill those jobs.

Anonymous wrote:Executive orders come and go with the administration. Would you say it’s unconscionable for the next Democratic president to change Trump’s EOs?

Look, it’s stupid we went so long without enforcing our borders. People will get hurt in the meantime. Did you hear the guy on Jeopardy last night who was barred from Taiwan for a year because he overstayed his travel visa by 2 hours? Why is the US expected to take whoever comes?

I know someone Taiwanese who was working as a professor. His Taiwanese wife came to visit him in the US during his stint without intent to move to the US. So she arrived as a tourist but announced she was coming to visit her husband at the border. They sent her back to Taiwan with a temporary entry ban. Eventually her husband relocated to Canada.

I also worked with a Chinese lady who had legal permission to work in the US at a corporate job. She went home for a holiday and tried to come back in the US with a passport that was 5.5 months from expiring. She was sent back to China and it took 3 weeks for her to get her new passport and be able to return to work.

Those were years ago. Not Trump Administration.

As someone who immigrated to America legally, I can tell you that immigrating “by the rules” is incredibly difficult, complicated and expensive. It took me over 10 years to obtain my green card, and I’m educated, white, young and well off. My heart breaks for these dreamers who came here in the hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families. In my experience, many of them are hard workers (in jobs Americans would never stoop to doing) and trying to do the best they can with a very shitty hand that they were dealt at birth. Many of them have US citizen minor children too.

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Anonymous wrote:Why weren't all these ppl mad when Obama deported and separated ton's of families? My suggestion for all the social justice warriors is house the illegals in your own home if you are so worried. Be the change you wish to see in the world.

They don't even want them in their schools. They want them to be someone else's problem. Just check the FCPS School thread.

Their home country should be responsible for providing their education.

You have zero idea how immigration works.

Also, the education system in this country clearly failed you so maybe they would be better off.

This is how I know immigration to work.

In the 80's, my uncle and his wife were top students at the top university in their home country. The immigrated to the US. After getting settled, he petitioned for family members to come. We waited for several years in our home country until granted entry. After getting settled, my parents then petitioned for my mothers side of the family to come. They waited for years in their home county until granted entry.

That's how I know immigration to work.

Walking up to the border expecting to be taken into custody and released is not how it is supposed to work. Coming in with a temporary visa and not leaving when it expires is not how it is supposed to work.

Nicely done! Now, please explain how asylum works.