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Anonymous wrote:Had an interesting chat at lunch with a friend I hadn't seen in awhile. He works for ATF and wanted to pick my brain about any job openings I knew about it.

I now understand why so many of these ICE agents are wearing masks. They aren't ICE agents and did not sign up for this task. Apparently, DHS/HSI has tapped all branches (FBI, USSS, DEA, ATF, and even IRS) to send agents for ICE taskforces. They are hiding their faces because they don't want to be doxxed when they didn't sign up to do ICE raids & deportations.

This friend wants out. He also said ATF is a mess with no leadership. He's pushing through to July which is his 20year mark.

They wear masks because the nuts on the left are doxxing them and threatening them and their families.

They absolutely should since these guys are making illegal arrests, terrorizing communities, tearing families apart, and sending people to horrific foreign jails who haven’t done anything deserving of it.

It is not against any rule for ICE to wear masks.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it seems you're angry that ICE is picking up illegals. While I sympathize with illegals to an extent, they're not here lawfully. I could speculate on why you're determined to insist they be allowed to stay, but that's besides the point. They're taking up resources the U.S. can ill afford to provide to them. Our hospital are overflowing with illegal aliens who take advantage of the law to get free medical care, sticking the rest of us with the unpaid bills. I 100% know you realize that, but you just don't care. Those construction jobs you were referring to? Back in the day before the U.S. filled with undocumented workers, construction work paid well enough that employees could lead nice blue collar lifestyles on the pay. No more. There are plenty of small town folk who would gladly take those jobs, only they've gone to cheap undocumented employees. You know that too, but you just don't care.

Yes, I think what the ICE agents are doing is despicable. There's no honor in standing outside of an immigration court - a court specifically designed for those following the correct path to citizenship - and rounding them up. That's the equivalent of paying money to go on a hunting safari at an animal park where the animals are bred in captivity for hunting and posting a photo on social media of your big kill. Pathetic.

What resources are they taking up? Provide proof.

The #1 recipient of Medicaid is white people. Here's proof. https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/data-and-systems/downloads/macbis/2020-race-etncity-data-brf.pdf

Illegals can't get free healthcare in most states. I live in VA. Here's what it says for VA:
Can Undocumented Immigrants Get Free Or Low-Cost Healthcare in Virginia?
No, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for free or low-cost healthcare in Virginia. However, Virginia does provide some limited health care services to undocumented immigrants. These services include emergency care and essential medical services for certain conditions such as tuberculosis, HIV/AIDS, and cancer. Furthermore, local and community health centers may also provide care to undocumented immigrants on a sliding scale fee basis.

Can Undocumented Immigrants Get Health Insurance From Aca Marketplace in Virginia?
No, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to purchase health insurance from the ACA Marketplace in Virginia, or any other state. Only individuals with valid Social Security numbers or with U.S. citizenship status are eligible to buy through the ACA Marketplace.

Children and pregnant women can get Medicaid in VA if they meet certain requirements. https://www.uscisguide.com/undocumented-immigrant/undocumented-immigrants-healthcare-benefits-in-virginia/

And the reason why those good blue collar jobs went to immigrants instead of white people? Because of our society's push for college for all. That's the reason. I was in HS in this area from 1996-2000. It was drilled into our heads that college = success. The only kids who were even allowed to do VoTech courses were those who made the worst grades or were POC. The kids that the school knew would never be able to go to college. So it looked better for the school to be able to say 100% graduation rate with 90% off to a 4-year school, 5% off to community college, 5% graduating with degrees/certifications in service industry jobs that they got through VoTech. The push for all HS seniors to go to college created the huge need for blue collar workers and not enough bodies to fill those jobs. Enter immigrants. They didn't STEAL the jobs as so many like to claim. They took the vacant jobs that white, educated men no longer wanted after finishing college. That's what has created the predicament we're in now of most degrees being worthless because everyone has one. When everyone's special, no one is special.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-migrants-stealing-jobs-experts-debunk-1939983
and https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-trumps-claims-data-shows-migrants-arent-taking-jobs-from-black-or-hispanic-people
and https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/545572-immigrants-do-not-steal-our-jobs-they-create-them-in-the-economy/

So now that FL is out hundreds of construction workers on the new FSU housing site, why are there not lines of white and black FL workers lining up for those jobs? It's summer break. FL is teeming with college-aged men. Why are restaurants closed instead of opened with white and black workers replacing the Hispanic workers that were taken?

I grew up with a blue collar worker dad and a mom who worked as an office admin. No college between either of them. They provided excellent middle class lives for us. You cannot do that today. The pay hasn't kept up with the inflation of everything else. The house that my parents bought and raised us in back in 1992 was $169k and it just went on the market and sold for $990k. A tow truck driver and an office admin can't provide the quality of life today that my parents did years ago. But you know how the immigrants are able to provide good lives for their kids doing these jobs? Because they have multiple jobs and multiple family members living together to survive.

The “free” healthcare illegals get is via the ER. The rest of us pay for it via expensive Tylenol up charge.

That's how my white brother gets his healthcare. He doesn't have insurance. He doesn't have a job that provides it and doesn't believe in the ACA. When he's sick enough, he goes to the ER. When he gets the bill, he fills out the paperwork that he has no private insurance and then provides 2 paystubs to prove his wages to get the bill forgiven. He's a bartender, so he always has checks that show he's "poor" when he's not really poor. They have no idea that he walks out of there into his $80k truck that he drives home to his $700k house.

Be angry at the system not those using the system.

Now I know you're lying to make a point. No white American is going to go through the hospital system without providing identification and without getting hounded into the next century for payment. Illegal aliens take advantage of their status to use the hospital system knowing they can't get turned away.

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Anonymous wrote:Had an interesting chat at lunch with a friend I hadn't seen in awhile. He works for ATF and wanted to pick my brain about any job openings I knew about it.

I now understand why so many of these ICE agents are wearing masks. They aren't ICE agents and did not sign up for this task. Apparently, DHS/HSI has tapped all branches (FBI, USSS, DEA, ATF, and even IRS) to send agents for ICE taskforces. They are hiding their faces because they don't want to be doxxed when they didn't sign up to do ICE raids & deportations.

This friend wants out. He also said ATF is a mess with no leadership. He's pushing through to July which is his 20year mark.

They wear masks because the nuts on the left are doxxing them and threatening them and their families.

They absolutely should since these guys are making illegal arrests, terrorizing communities, tearing families apart, and sending people to horrific foreign jails who haven’t done anything deserving of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Had an interesting chat at lunch with a friend I hadn't seen in awhile. He works for ATF and wanted to pick my brain about any job openings I knew about it.

I now understand why so many of these ICE agents are wearing masks. They aren't ICE agents and did not sign up for this task. Apparently, DHS/HSI has tapped all branches (FBI, USSS, DEA, ATF, and even IRS) to send agents for ICE taskforces. They are hiding their faces because they don't want to be doxxed when they didn't sign up to do ICE raids & deportations.

This friend wants out. He also said ATF is a mess with no leadership. He's pushing through to July which is his 20year mark.

They wear masks because the nuts on the left are doxxing them and threatening them and their families.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had an interesting chat at lunch with a friend I hadn't seen in awhile. He works for ATF and wanted to pick my brain about any job openings I knew about it.

I now understand why so many of these ICE agents are wearing masks. They aren't ICE agents and did not sign up for this task. Apparently, DHS/HSI has tapped all branches (FBI, USSS, DEA, ATF, and even IRS) to send agents for ICE taskforces. They are hiding their faces because they don't want to be doxxed when they didn't sign up to do ICE raids & deportations.

This friend wants out. He also said ATF is a mess with no leadership. He's pushing through to July which is his 20year mark.

They wear masks because the nuts on the left are doxxing them and threatening them and their families.

Anonymous wrote:Had an interesting chat at lunch with a friend I hadn't seen in awhile. He works for ATF and wanted to pick my brain about any job openings I knew about it.

I now understand why so many of these ICE agents are wearing masks. They aren't ICE agents and did not sign up for this task. Apparently, DHS/HSI has tapped all branches (FBI, USSS, DEA, ATF, and even IRS) to send agents for ICE taskforces. They are hiding their faces because they don't want to be doxxed when they didn't sign up to do ICE raids & deportations.

This friend wants out. He also said ATF is a mess with no leadership. He's pushing through to July which is his 20year mark.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it seems you're angry that ICE is picking up illegals. While I sympathize with illegals to an extent, they're not here lawfully. I could speculate on why you're determined to insist they be allowed to stay, but that's besides the point. They're taking up resources the U.S. can ill afford to provide to them. Our hospital are overflowing with illegal aliens who take advantage of the law to get free medical care, sticking the rest of us with the unpaid bills. I 100% know you realize that, but you just don't care. Those construction jobs you were referring to? Back in the day before the U.S. filled with undocumented workers, construction work paid well enough that employees could lead nice blue collar lifestyles on the pay. No more. There are plenty of small town folk who would gladly take those jobs, only they've gone to cheap undocumented employees. You know that too, but you just don't care.

Yes, I think what the ICE agents are doing is despicable. There's no honor in standing outside of an immigration court - a court specifically designed for those following the correct path to citizenship - and rounding them up. That's the equivalent of paying money to go on a hunting safari at an animal park where the animals are bred in captivity for hunting and posting a photo on social media of your big kill. Pathetic.

What resources are they taking up? Provide proof.

The #1 recipient of Medicaid is white people. Here's proof. https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/data-and-systems/downloads/macbis/2020-race-etncity-data-brf.pdf

Illegals can't get free healthcare in most states. I live in VA. Here's what it says for VA:
Can Undocumented Immigrants Get Free Or Low-Cost Healthcare in Virginia?
No, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for free or low-cost healthcare in Virginia. However, Virginia does provide some limited health care services to undocumented immigrants. These services include emergency care and essential medical services for certain conditions such as tuberculosis, HIV/AIDS, and cancer. Furthermore, local and community health centers may also provide care to undocumented immigrants on a sliding scale fee basis.

Can Undocumented Immigrants Get Health Insurance From Aca Marketplace in Virginia?
No, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to purchase health insurance from the ACA Marketplace in Virginia, or any other state. Only individuals with valid Social Security numbers or with U.S. citizenship status are eligible to buy through the ACA Marketplace.

Children and pregnant women can get Medicaid in VA if they meet certain requirements. https://www.uscisguide.com/undocumented-immigrant/undocumented-immigrants-healthcare-benefits-in-virginia/

And the reason why those good blue collar jobs went to immigrants instead of white people? Because of our society's push for college for all. That's the reason. I was in HS in this area from 1996-2000. It was drilled into our heads that college = success. The only kids who were even allowed to do VoTech courses were those who made the worst grades or were POC. The kids that the school knew would never be able to go to college. So it looked better for the school to be able to say 100% graduation rate with 90% off to a 4-year school, 5% off to community college, 5% graduating with degrees/certifications in service industry jobs that they got through VoTech. The push for all HS seniors to go to college created the huge need for blue collar workers and not enough bodies to fill those jobs. Enter immigrants. They didn't STEAL the jobs as so many like to claim. They took the vacant jobs that white, educated men no longer wanted after finishing college. That's what has created the predicament we're in now of most degrees being worthless because everyone has one. When everyone's special, no one is special.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-migrants-stealing-jobs-experts-debunk-1939983
and https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-trumps-claims-data-shows-migrants-arent-taking-jobs-from-black-or-hispanic-people
and https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/545572-immigrants-do-not-steal-our-jobs-they-create-them-in-the-economy/

So now that FL is out hundreds of construction workers on the new FSU housing site, why are there not lines of white and black FL workers lining up for those jobs? It's summer break. FL is teeming with college-aged men. Why are restaurants closed instead of opened with white and black workers replacing the Hispanic workers that were taken?

I grew up with a blue collar worker dad and a mom who worked as an office admin. No college between either of them. They provided excellent middle class lives for us. You cannot do that today. The pay hasn't kept up with the inflation of everything else. The house that my parents bought and raised us in back in 1992 was $169k and it just went on the market and sold for $990k. A tow truck driver and an office admin can't provide the quality of life today that my parents did years ago. But you know how the immigrants are able to provide good lives for their kids doing these jobs? Because they have multiple jobs and multiple family members living together to survive.

The “free” healthcare illegals get is via the ER. The rest of us pay for it via expensive Tylenol up charge.

That's how my white brother gets his healthcare. He doesn't have insurance. He doesn't have a job that provides it and doesn't believe in the ACA. When he's sick enough, he goes to the ER. When he gets the bill, he fills out the paperwork that he has no private insurance and then provides 2 paystubs to prove his wages to get the bill forgiven. He's a bartender, so he always has checks that show he's "poor" when he's not really poor. They have no idea that he walks out of there into his $80k truck that he drives home to his $700k house.

Be angry at the system not those using the system.

Now I know you're lying to make a point. No white American is going to go through the hospital system without providing identification and without getting hounded into the next century for payment. Illegal aliens take advantage of their status to use the hospital system knowing they can't get turned away.

DP

People don’t go to the hospital to “take advantage”. They go to the hospital because it’s their only option and usually after a long period of not getting regular medical care that might have prevented the necessity for the hospital visit.

Save your anger for their employers who don’t give them insurance.

You didn't address the point about lying. If illegal aliens weren't trying to game the system, perhaps people would be a little more understanding. Don't come here expecting to game the system. The ones who pay the price are the people who get stuck having to pay exorbitant fees for hospital care, and who don't have insurance. The hospitals pass on the cost of treating illegal aliens to these folks. They can't afford the hospital bills anymore than the illegal aliens can, and the hospitals have their personal information to track them down and make them pay the bills.

You understand this, although you're trying to gaslight.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it seems you're angry that ICE is picking up illegals. While I sympathize with illegals to an extent, they're not here lawfully. I could speculate on why you're determined to insist they be allowed to stay, but that's besides the point. They're taking up resources the U.S. can ill afford to provide to them. Our hospital are overflowing with illegal aliens who take advantage of the law to get free medical care, sticking the rest of us with the unpaid bills. I 100% know you realize that, but you just don't care. Those construction jobs you were referring to? Back in the day before the U.S. filled with undocumented workers, construction work paid well enough that employees could lead nice blue collar lifestyles on the pay. No more. There are plenty of small town folk who would gladly take those jobs, only they've gone to cheap undocumented employees. You know that too, but you just don't care.

Yes, I think what the ICE agents are doing is despicable. There's no honor in standing outside of an immigration court - a court specifically designed for those following the correct path to citizenship - and rounding them up. That's the equivalent of paying money to go on a hunting safari at an animal park where the animals are bred in captivity for hunting and posting a photo on social media of your big kill. Pathetic.

What resources are they taking up? Provide proof.

The #1 recipient of Medicaid is white people. Here's proof. https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/data-and-systems/downloads/macbis/2020-race-etncity-data-brf.pdf

Illegals can't get free healthcare in most states. I live in VA. Here's what it says for VA:
Can Undocumented Immigrants Get Free Or Low-Cost Healthcare in Virginia?
No, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for free or low-cost healthcare in Virginia. However, Virginia does provide some limited health care services to undocumented immigrants. These services include emergency care and essential medical services for certain conditions such as tuberculosis, HIV/AIDS, and cancer. Furthermore, local and community health centers may also provide care to undocumented immigrants on a sliding scale fee basis.

Can Undocumented Immigrants Get Health Insurance From Aca Marketplace in Virginia?
No, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to purchase health insurance from the ACA Marketplace in Virginia, or any other state. Only individuals with valid Social Security numbers or with U.S. citizenship status are eligible to buy through the ACA Marketplace.

Children and pregnant women can get Medicaid in VA if they meet certain requirements. https://www.uscisguide.com/undocumented-immigrant/undocumented-immigrants-healthcare-benefits-in-virginia/

And the reason why those good blue collar jobs went to immigrants instead of white people? Because of our society's push for college for all. That's the reason. I was in HS in this area from 1996-2000. It was drilled into our heads that college = success. The only kids who were even allowed to do VoTech courses were those who made the worst grades or were POC. The kids that the school knew would never be able to go to college. So it looked better for the school to be able to say 100% graduation rate with 90% off to a 4-year school, 5% off to community college, 5% graduating with degrees/certifications in service industry jobs that they got through VoTech. The push for all HS seniors to go to college created the huge need for blue collar workers and not enough bodies to fill those jobs. Enter immigrants. They didn't STEAL the jobs as so many like to claim. They took the vacant jobs that white, educated men no longer wanted after finishing college. That's what has created the predicament we're in now of most degrees being worthless because everyone has one. When everyone's special, no one is special.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-migrants-stealing-jobs-experts-debunk-1939983
and https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-trumps-claims-data-shows-migrants-arent-taking-jobs-from-black-or-hispanic-people
and https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/545572-immigrants-do-not-steal-our-jobs-they-create-them-in-the-economy/

So now that FL is out hundreds of construction workers on the new FSU housing site, why are there not lines of white and black FL workers lining up for those jobs? It's summer break. FL is teeming with college-aged men. Why are restaurants closed instead of opened with white and black workers replacing the Hispanic workers that were taken?

I grew up with a blue collar worker dad and a mom who worked as an office admin. No college between either of them. They provided excellent middle class lives for us. You cannot do that today. The pay hasn't kept up with the inflation of everything else. The house that my parents bought and raised us in back in 1992 was $169k and it just went on the market and sold for $990k. A tow truck driver and an office admin can't provide the quality of life today that my parents did years ago. But you know how the immigrants are able to provide good lives for their kids doing these jobs? Because they have multiple jobs and multiple family members living together to survive.

The “free” healthcare illegals get is via the ER. The rest of us pay for it via expensive Tylenol up charge.

That's how my white brother gets his healthcare. He doesn't have insurance. He doesn't have a job that provides it and doesn't believe in the ACA. When he's sick enough, he goes to the ER. When he gets the bill, he fills out the paperwork that he has no private insurance and then provides 2 paystubs to prove his wages to get the bill forgiven. He's a bartender, so he always has checks that show he's "poor" when he's not really poor. They have no idea that he walks out of there into his $80k truck that he drives home to his $700k house.

Be angry at the system not those using the system.

Now I know you're lying to make a point. No white American is going to go through the hospital system without providing identification and without getting hounded into the next century for payment. Illegal aliens take advantage of their status to use the hospital system knowing they can't get turned away.

DP

People don’t go to the hospital to “take advantage”. They go to the hospital because it’s their only option and usually after a long period of not getting regular medical care that might have prevented the necessity for the hospital visit.

Save your anger for their employers who don’t give them insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at these ridiculous people wearing night vision to arrest a guy on a southwest flight in broad daylight:

Doing way too much.

Dressed for combat to arrest a guy who has gone thru security screening and clearly has no weapons on him.

These Proud Boys are cosplaying in ICE and having a "good time" while not taking any risks whatsoever.

Of course they aren't going after gang members who actually might fight back.

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, DHS/HSI has tapped all branches (FBI, USSS, DEA, ATF, and even IRS) to send agents for ICE taskforces.

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Anonymous wrote:Which Democrat will be the first to step up and oppose the deportation of this terrorist’s family?

I don’t know, are they terrorists, too? Are they victims of their patriarch’s terror? It’s like a whole thing with thinking things through based on evidence. You would understand.

Maybe we should have arrested the families of the J6 terrorists.

Anonymous wrote:Had an interesting chat at lunch with a friend I hadn't seen in awhile. He works for ATF and wanted to pick my brain about any job openings I knew about it.

I now understand why so many of these ICE agents are wearing masks. They aren't ICE agents and did not sign up for this task. Apparently, DHS/HSI has tapped all branches (FBI, USSS, DEA, ATF, and even IRS) to send agents for ICE taskforces. They are hiding their faces because they don't want to be doxxed when they didn't sign up to do ICE raids & deportations.

This friend wants out. He also said ATF is a mess with no leadership. He's pushing through to July which is his 20year mark.

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Anonymous wrote:He applied for asylum while he was here legally in 2022. He was granted a work permit a month after his visa ran out. That doesn’t sound like he overstayed his visa. He overstayed his visa in 2025, and Trump admin had not picked him up.

You’re flat out wrong. WSJ and NyT said he overstayed his tourist visa in 2023 when it expired after his 2022 arrival.

Democrat here and I’m fine with kicking out people who overstay their visas. But let’s start with Elon.

Musk says he was allowed to legally work in the U.S. during that period. "I was on a J-1 visa that transitioned to an H1-B," he said on his social media platform X.

Let’s stop prosecuting people in the media.