Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS parent. Some of you don't know anything about ATS and it shows.
I've never met a really wealthy parent at ATS. There are alot of immigrants families. Asian, South Asian, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, African. White families are in the minority.
ATS has two bilingual family specialists. The one who's been there the longest speaks Spanish.
PP is right about the immigrant families taking school very seriously. Almost the entire school turns out for school events. Low-income families are very involved.
Admin expects parent involvement and and does not coddle parents.
This is not true.
According to APS’ published data, ATS is minority white at 35%. So why do you say it’s not true? This is much lower than the N Arlington ES.
Oh, so you get to group ALL other races together? If so, let’s group white and Asian together, as Asians aren’t considered URMs in elite schools.
Tell me, which race is >35% at the school?
Do you understand how math works? By simple math, white families are in the minority
Information from ATS website.
Total Student Enrollment, PreK-5: 663
Students who receive English as a second language support, K-5: 37.3%
Number of Languages Spoken: 24
Minority Population: 66%
https://ats.apsva.us/general-information/
Not all immigrant families are non-white. Not all non-white families are low-income. Not all immigrant families are low-income.
It's a really diverse school. The common denominator is that families have chosen to be there.
DP. You say "white families are in the minority". Then you say "Minority Population: 66%".
??
ATS is a majority minority school. Non-white, minority students make up the majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority
But if you break the “minority” population down by race, not one is close to 35%.
You keep making this argument that therefore it’s de facto alright to say ATS is “majority” white, but no agrees with your definition of “majority.” Especially where, in this county, there are literally schools where almost 8 out of 10 kids are white and where those families do not send their children to ATS.
Dude, no one cares. You’re just proving the point that achievement has nothing to do with race and has everything to do with parental GAF.
That’s why being a Title I school is not going to hurt ATS. The parents who are there GAF no matter their race or income.
Maybe. Or maybe there’s an increase in DGAF families — both due to VPI and because fewer high earners apply for their kids. They can just switch to private school.
It really doesn’t matter. It’s not like people can tell which high schoolers went to ATS.
VPI is a lottery as well. Families who select the option schools over a closer, more convenient neighborhood school already demonstrate that they GAF and are thinking more about educational opportunities rather than convenience. The kids in VPI at the option schools are already self-selected. I don’t think ATS becoming Title 1 will affect their success. The level of GAF will not decrease.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haters gonna hate. ATS is a great school. Title I status means it will get a few more resources to do even more for its students.
It seems odd that a school who's population changes year to year could be a Title 1 designated school. Couldn't they lose it the next year?
ATS is only becoming more low income, not the other way around.
How can you possibly state that as fact when the lottery is blind?
Anonymous wrote:Campbell is Title 1 and is also very high performing. I think it has an 8 in Great Schools. Which is surprising considering it attracts hippie types who aren’t super academically focused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS parent. Some of you don't know anything about ATS and it shows.
I've never met a really wealthy parent at ATS. There are alot of immigrants families. Asian, South Asian, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, African. White families are in the minority.
ATS has two bilingual family specialists. The one who's been there the longest speaks Spanish.
PP is right about the immigrant families taking school very seriously. Almost the entire school turns out for school events. Low-income families are very involved.
Admin expects parent involvement and and does not coddle parents.
This is not true.
According to APS’ published data, ATS is minority white at 35%. So why do you say it’s not true? This is much lower than the N Arlington ES.
Oh, so you get to group ALL other races together? If so, let’s group white and Asian together, as Asians aren’t considered URMs in elite schools.
Tell me, which race is >35% at the school?
Do you understand how math works? By simple math, white families are in the minority
Information from ATS website.
Total Student Enrollment, PreK-5: 663
Students who receive English as a second language support, K-5: 37.3%
Number of Languages Spoken: 24
Minority Population: 66%
https://ats.apsva.us/general-information/
Not all immigrant families are non-white. Not all non-white families are low-income. Not all immigrant families are low-income.
It's a really diverse school. The common denominator is that families have chosen to be there.
DP. You say "white families are in the minority". Then you say "Minority Population: 66%".
??
ATS is a majority minority school. Non-white, minority students make up the majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority
But if you break the “minority” population down by race, not one is close to 35%.
You keep making this argument that therefore it’s de facto alright to say ATS is “majority” white, but no agrees with your definition of “majority.” Especially where, in this county, there are literally schools where almost 8 out of 10 kids are white and where those families do not send their children to ATS.
Dude, no one cares. You’re just proving the point that achievement has nothing to do with race and has everything to do with parental GAF.
That’s why being a Title I school is not going to hurt ATS. The parents who are there GAF no matter their race or income.
Maybe. Or maybe there’s an increase in DGAF families — both due to VPI and because fewer high earners apply for their kids. They can just switch to private school.
It really doesn’t matter. It’s not like people can tell which high schoolers went to ATS.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS is successful because of the immigrant families there. They want homework and good behavior. They show up to school on the first day with flowers for the teachers and dress to the nines for every event. They expect their kids to be successful.
Which immigrants
Ethiopian, Eritrean, Mongolian, Bolivian, El Salvadoran...
Actually, that’s not quite correct. ATS is unique for Arlington in that it has a very small (~10%) contingent of Hispanic students (made up from many different countries, not just one or two), and 30% Asian population. That’s the largest percentage Asian of any school in Arlington, as far as I know.
And yes, all are very motivated, across all ethnic backgrounds.
Doesn’t sound like they need title I dollars.
So motivated and poor = not deserving of support and dollars??
Only unmotivated should get dollars?
Seems like APS is making the determination that only the motivated AND poor get additional funds. Unmotivated and poor? We don’t need to apply.
Honestly, motivated and poor = high impact of dollars well spent and high rate of success.
However, I am sure the other schools can apply. It’s likely that APS has no foresight of population trends, especially within a school boundary. They have shown again and again that they are oblivious to what is likely to happen even two years down the road. It is also possible that the other schools who may qualify are hesitant to deal with the paperwork until percentages are higher, or it has to do with each school’s admin - there are several possible reasons why a few schools may not have applied (yet?).
Completely unacceptable.
What, that APS has shown poor foresight? Totally agree with you on that.
Your first statement indicates you think unmotivated poor kids shouldn’t get extra funding. And then you go on to justify it. Yikes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS parent. Some of you don't know anything about ATS and it shows.
I've never met a really wealthy parent at ATS. There are alot of immigrants families. Asian, South Asian, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, African. White families are in the minority.
ATS has two bilingual family specialists. The one who's been there the longest speaks Spanish.
PP is right about the immigrant families taking school very seriously. Almost the entire school turns out for school events. Low-income families are very involved.
Admin expects parent involvement and and does not coddle parents.
This is not true.
According to APS’ published data, ATS is minority white at 35%. So why do you say it’s not true? This is much lower than the N Arlington ES.
Oh, so you get to group ALL other races together? If so, let’s group white and Asian together, as Asians aren’t considered URMs in elite schools.
Tell me, which race is >35% at the school?
Do you understand how math works? By simple math, white families are in the minority
Information from ATS website.
Total Student Enrollment, PreK-5: 663
Students who receive English as a second language support, K-5: 37.3%
Number of Languages Spoken: 24
Minority Population: 66%
https://ats.apsva.us/general-information/
Not all immigrant families are non-white. Not all non-white families are low-income. Not all immigrant families are low-income.
It's a really diverse school. The common denominator is that families have chosen to be there.
DP. You say "white families are in the minority". Then you say "Minority Population: 66%".
??
ATS is a majority minority school. Non-white, minority students make up the majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority
But if you break the “minority” population down by race, not one is close to 35%.
You keep making this argument that therefore it’s de facto alright to say ATS is “majority” white, but no agrees with your definition of “majority.” Especially where, in this county, there are literally schools where almost 8 out of 10 kids are white and where those families do not send their children to ATS.
Dude, no one cares. You’re just proving the point that achievement has nothing to do with race and has everything to do with parental GAF.
That’s why being a Title I school is not going to hurt ATS. The parents who are there GAF no matter their race or income.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS parent. Some of you don't know anything about ATS and it shows.
I've never met a really wealthy parent at ATS. There are alot of immigrants families. Asian, South Asian, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, African. White families are in the minority.
ATS has two bilingual family specialists. The one who's been there the longest speaks Spanish.
PP is right about the immigrant families taking school very seriously. Almost the entire school turns out for school events. Low-income families are very involved.
Admin expects parent involvement and and does not coddle parents.
This is not true.
According to APS’ published data, ATS is minority white at 35%. So why do you say it’s not true? This is much lower than the N Arlington ES.
Oh, so you get to group ALL other races together? If so, let’s group white and Asian together, as Asians aren’t considered URMs in elite schools.
Tell me, which race is >35% at the school?
Do you understand how math works? By simple math, white families are in the minority
Information from ATS website.
Total Student Enrollment, PreK-5: 663
Students who receive English as a second language support, K-5: 37.3%
Number of Languages Spoken: 24
Minority Population: 66%
https://ats.apsva.us/general-information/
Not all immigrant families are non-white. Not all non-white families are low-income. Not all immigrant families are low-income.
It's a really diverse school. The common denominator is that families have chosen to be there.
DP. You say "white families are in the minority". Then you say "Minority Population: 66%".
??
ATS is a majority minority school. Non-white, minority students make up the majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority
But if you break the “minority” population down by race, not one is close to 35%.
You keep making this argument that therefore it’s de facto alright to say ATS is “majority” white, but no agrees with your definition of “majority.” Especially where, in this county, there are literally schools where almost 8 out of 10 kids are white and where those families do not send their children to ATS.
Dude, no one cares. You’re just proving the point that achievement has nothing to do with race and has everything to do with parental GAF.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS parent. Some of you don't know anything about ATS and it shows.
I've never met a really wealthy parent at ATS. There are alot of immigrants families. Asian, South Asian, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, African. White families are in the minority.
ATS has two bilingual family specialists. The one who's been there the longest speaks Spanish.
PP is right about the immigrant families taking school very seriously. Almost the entire school turns out for school events. Low-income families are very involved.
Admin expects parent involvement and and does not coddle parents.
This is not true.
According to APS’ published data, ATS is minority white at 35%. So why do you say it’s not true? This is much lower than the N Arlington ES.
Oh, so you get to group ALL other races together? If so, let’s group white and Asian together, as Asians aren’t considered URMs in elite schools.
Tell me, which race is >35% at the school?
Do you understand how math works? By simple math, white families are in the minority
Information from ATS website.
Total Student Enrollment, PreK-5: 663
Students who receive English as a second language support, K-5: 37.3%
Number of Languages Spoken: 24
Minority Population: 66%
https://ats.apsva.us/general-information/
Not all immigrant families are non-white. Not all non-white families are low-income. Not all immigrant families are low-income.
It's a really diverse school. The common denominator is that families have chosen to be there.
DP. You say "white families are in the minority". Then you say "Minority Population: 66%".
??
ATS is a majority minority school. Non-white, minority students make up the majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority
But if you break the “minority” population down by race, not one is close to 35%.
You keep making this argument that therefore it’s de facto alright to say ATS is “majority” white, but no agrees with your definition of “majority.” Especially where, in this county, there are literally schools where almost 8 out of 10 kids are white and where those families do not send their children to ATS.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS parent. Some of you don't know anything about ATS and it shows.
I've never met a really wealthy parent at ATS. There are alot of immigrants families. Asian, South Asian, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, African. White families are in the minority.
ATS has two bilingual family specialists. The one who's been there the longest speaks Spanish.
PP is right about the immigrant families taking school very seriously. Almost the entire school turns out for school events. Low-income families are very involved.
Admin expects parent involvement and and does not coddle parents.
This is not true.
According to APS’ published data, ATS is minority white at 35%. So why do you say it’s not true? This is much lower than the N Arlington ES.
Oh, so you get to group ALL other races together? If so, let’s group white and Asian together, as Asians aren’t considered URMs in elite schools.
Tell me, which race is >35% at the school?
Do you understand how math works? By simple math, white families are in the minority
Information from ATS website.
Total Student Enrollment, PreK-5: 663
Students who receive English as a second language support, K-5: 37.3%
Number of Languages Spoken: 24
Minority Population: 66%
https://ats.apsva.us/general-information/
Not all immigrant families are non-white. Not all non-white families are low-income. Not all immigrant families are low-income.
It's a really diverse school. The common denominator is that families have chosen to be there.
DP. You say "white families are in the minority". Then you say "Minority Population: 66%".
??
ATS is a majority minority school. Non-white, minority students make up the majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority
But if you break the “minority” population down by race, not one is close to 35%.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS parent. Some of you don't know anything about ATS and it shows.
I've never met a really wealthy parent at ATS. There are alot of immigrants families. Asian, South Asian, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, African. White families are in the minority.
ATS has two bilingual family specialists. The one who's been there the longest speaks Spanish.
PP is right about the immigrant families taking school very seriously. Almost the entire school turns out for school events. Low-income families are very involved.
Admin expects parent involvement and and does not coddle parents.
This is not true.
According to APS’ published data, ATS is minority white at 35%. So why do you say it’s not true? This is much lower than the N Arlington ES.
Oh, so you get to group ALL other races together? If so, let’s group white and Asian together, as Asians aren’t considered URMs in elite schools.
Tell me, which race is >35% at the school?
Do you understand how math works? By simple math, white families are in the minority
Information from ATS website.
Total Student Enrollment, PreK-5: 663
Students who receive English as a second language support, K-5: 37.3%
Number of Languages Spoken: 24
Minority Population: 66%
https://ats.apsva.us/general-information/
Not all immigrant families are non-white. Not all non-white families are low-income. Not all immigrant families are low-income.
It's a really diverse school. The common denominator is that families have chosen to be there.
DP. You say "white families are in the minority". Then you say "Minority Population: 66%".
??
ATS is a majority minority school. Non-white, minority students make up the majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS parent. Some of you don't know anything about ATS and it shows.
I've never met a really wealthy parent at ATS. There are alot of immigrants families. Asian, South Asian, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, African. White families are in the minority.
ATS has two bilingual family specialists. The one who's been there the longest speaks Spanish.
PP is right about the immigrant families taking school very seriously. Almost the entire school turns out for school events. Low-income families are very involved.
Admin expects parent involvement and and does not coddle parents.
This is not true.
According to APS’ published data, ATS is minority white at 35%. So why do you say it’s not true? This is much lower than the N Arlington ES.
Oh, so you get to group ALL other races together? If so, let’s group white and Asian together, as Asians aren’t considered URMs in elite schools.
Tell me, which race is >35% at the school?
Do you understand how math works? By simple math, white families are in the minority
Information from ATS website.
Total Student Enrollment, PreK-5: 663
Students who receive English as a second language support, K-5: 37.3%
Number of Languages Spoken: 24
Minority Population: 66%
https://ats.apsva.us/general-information/
Not all immigrant families are non-white. Not all non-white families are low-income. Not all immigrant families are low-income.
It's a really diverse school. The common denominator is that families have chosen to be there.
DP. You say "white families are in the minority". Then you say "Minority Population: 66%".
??
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS is successful because of the immigrant families there. They want homework and good behavior. They show up to school on the first day with flowers for the teachers and dress to the nines for every event. They expect their kids to be successful.
Which immigrants
Ethiopian, Eritrean, Mongolian, Bolivian, El Salvadoran...
Actually, that’s not quite correct. ATS is unique for Arlington in that it has a very small (~10%) contingent of Hispanic students (made up from many different countries, not just one or two), and 30% Asian population. That’s the largest percentage Asian of any school in Arlington, as far as I know.
And yes, all are very motivated, across all ethnic backgrounds.
Doesn’t sound like they need title I dollars.
So motivated and poor = not deserving of support and dollars??
Only unmotivated should get dollars?
Seems like APS is making the determination that only the motivated AND poor get additional funds. Unmotivated and poor? We don’t need to apply.
Honestly, motivated and poor = high impact of dollars well spent and high rate of success.
However, I am sure the other schools can apply. It’s likely that APS has no foresight of population trends, especially within a school boundary. They have shown again and again that they are oblivious to what is likely to happen even two years down the road. It is also possible that the other schools who may qualify are hesitant to deal with the paperwork until percentages are higher, or it has to do with each school’s admin - there are several possible reasons why a few schools may not have applied (yet?).
Completely unacceptable.
What, that APS has shown poor foresight? Totally agree with you on that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS is successful because of the immigrant families there. They want homework and good behavior. They show up to school on the first day with flowers for the teachers and dress to the nines for every event. They expect their kids to be successful.
Which immigrants
Ethiopian, Eritrean, Mongolian, Bolivian, El Salvadoran...
Actually, that’s not quite correct. ATS is unique for Arlington in that it has a very small (~10%) contingent of Hispanic students (made up from many different countries, not just one or two), and 30% Asian population. That’s the largest percentage Asian of any school in Arlington, as far as I know.
And yes, all are very motivated, across all ethnic backgrounds.
Doesn’t sound like they need title I dollars.
So motivated and poor = not deserving of support and dollars??
Only unmotivated should get dollars?
Seems like APS is making the determination that only the motivated AND poor get additional funds. Unmotivated and poor? We don’t need to apply.
Honestly, motivated and poor = high impact of dollars well spent and high rate of success.
However, I am sure the other schools can apply. It’s likely that APS has no foresight of population trends, especially within a school boundary. They have shown again and again that they are oblivious to what is likely to happen even two years down the road. It is also possible that the other schools who may qualify are hesitant to deal with the paperwork until percentages are higher, or it has to do with each school’s admin - there are several possible reasons why a few schools may not have applied (yet?).
Completely unacceptable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS is successful because of the immigrant families there. They want homework and good behavior. They show up to school on the first day with flowers for the teachers and dress to the nines for every event. They expect their kids to be successful.
Which immigrants
Ethiopian, Eritrean, Mongolian, Bolivian, El Salvadoran...
Actually, that’s not quite correct. ATS is unique for Arlington in that it has a very small (~10%) contingent of Hispanic students (made up from many different countries, not just one or two), and 30% Asian population. That’s the largest percentage Asian of any school in Arlington, as far as I know.
And yes, all are very motivated, across all ethnic backgrounds.
Doesn’t sound like they need title I dollars.
So motivated and poor = not deserving of support and dollars??
Only unmotivated should get dollars?
Seems like APS is making the determination that only the motivated AND poor get additional funds. Unmotivated and poor? We don’t need to apply.
Honestly, motivated and poor = high impact of dollars well spent and high rate of success.
However, I am sure the other schools can apply. It’s likely that APS has no foresight of population trends, especially within a school boundary. They have shown again and again that they are oblivious to what is likely to happen even two years down the road. It is also possible that the other schools who may qualify are hesitant to deal with the paperwork until percentages are higher, or it has to do with each school’s admin - there are several possible reasons why a few schools may not have applied (yet?).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ATS is successful because of the immigrant families there. They want homework and good behavior. They show up to school on the first day with flowers for the teachers and dress to the nines for every event. They expect their kids to be successful.
Which immigrants
Ethiopian, Eritrean, Mongolian, Bolivian, El Salvadoran...
Actually, that’s not quite correct. ATS is unique for Arlington in that it has a very small (~10%) contingent of Hispanic students (made up from many different countries, not just one or two), and 30% Asian population. That’s the largest percentage Asian of any school in Arlington, as far as I know.
And yes, all are very motivated, across all ethnic backgrounds.
Doesn’t sound like they need title I dollars.
So motivated and poor = not deserving of support and dollars??
Only unmotivated should get dollars?
Seems like APS is making the determination that only the motivated AND poor get additional funds. Unmotivated and poor? We don’t need to apply.