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Anonymous wrote:The rising juniors had a heck of a struggle finding housing. They didn’t think on campus would be available since it was not in recent years (yes, waitlist moved in summer but not until July which was really risky to pin your hopes on). But I suspect that will change in upcoming years now that people know rooms are available. Plenty of students used to stay on campus for four years and off campus housing is limited and not great.

There were lots people still searching for off campus housing a couple months ago knowing very well there was lots of availability on-campus. There just was no interest.

Likely because they wanted to live off campus. That doesn't mean all do.

Nobody in this thread has said literally "all" - you could say the same about literally any other college.

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Anonymous wrote:The rising juniors had a heck of a struggle finding housing. They didn’t think on campus would be available since it was not in recent years (yes, waitlist moved in summer but not until July which was really risky to pin your hopes on). But I suspect that will change in upcoming years now that people know rooms are available. Plenty of students used to stay on campus for four years and off campus housing is limited and not great.

There were lots people still searching for off campus housing a couple months ago knowing very well there was lots of availability on-campus. There just was no interest.

Likely because they wanted to live off campus. That doesn't mean all do.

Anonymous wrote:The rising juniors had a heck of a struggle finding housing. They didn’t think on campus would be available since it was not in recent years (yes, waitlist moved in summer but not until July which was really risky to pin your hopes on). But I suspect that will change in upcoming years now that people know rooms are available. Plenty of students used to stay on campus for four years and off campus housing is limited and not great.

There were lots people still searching for off campus housing a couple months ago knowing very well there was lots of availability on-campus. There just was no interest.

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to feel like with the great new housing options, more and more students will stay on campus thru junior and senior years. Landlords will need to up their game and professionalism because campus housing for upperclassmen now has solid competition with new on campus dorms.

I really just can't imagine most juniors and seniors choosing to live with a roommate for 4 years and an all access meal plan instead of a kitchen. Singles are still basically unavailable to anyone who doesn't have accomodations. At least for my child and their friends, a nicer dorm still doesn't make up for privacy and independence.

I lived on campus at W&M for all four years. Roommates and most comprehensive meal plan all the way through. It was fantastic!

It's more expensive for a worse experience. One year of living in a nice dorm + the all access meal plan is $14437.

Almost nowhere off campus would be more expensive even when you add in grocery costs.

I don't think there's any real competition. Some people don't want the additional responsibilities associated with living off campus. But otherwise who's going to pay more for less?

I think quite a few kids view living on campus as more of the college experience they prefer. It isn't just amenities and responsibilities.

Sure but again there's no competition then.

The rising juniors had a heck of a struggle finding housing. They didn’t think on campus would be available since it was not in recent years (yes, waitlist moved in summer but not until July which was really risky to pin your hopes on). But I suspect that will change in upcoming years now that people know rooms are available. Plenty of students used to stay on campus for four years and off campus housing is limited and not great.

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to feel like with the great new housing options, more and more students will stay on campus thru junior and senior years. Landlords will need to up their game and professionalism because campus housing for upperclassmen now has solid competition with new on campus dorms.

I really just can't imagine most juniors and seniors choosing to live with a roommate for 4 years and an all access meal plan instead of a kitchen. Singles are still basically unavailable to anyone who doesn't have accomodations. At least for my child and their friends, a nicer dorm still doesn't make up for privacy and independence.

I lived on campus at W&M for all four years. Roommates and most comprehensive meal plan all the way through. It was fantastic!

It's more expensive for a worse experience. One year of living in a nice dorm + the all access meal plan is $14437.

Almost nowhere off campus would be more expensive even when you add in grocery costs.

I don't think there's any real competition. Some people don't want the additional responsibilities associated with living off campus. But otherwise who's going to pay more for less?

I think quite a few kids view living on campus as more of the college experience they prefer. It isn't just amenities and responsibilities.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to feel like with the great new housing options, more and more students will stay on campus thru junior and senior years. Landlords will need to up their game and professionalism because campus housing for upperclassmen now has solid competition with new on campus dorms.

I really just can't imagine most juniors and seniors choosing to live with a roommate for 4 years and an all access meal plan instead of a kitchen. Singles are still basically unavailable to anyone who doesn't have accomodations. At least for my child and their friends, a nicer dorm still doesn't make up for privacy and independence.

I lived on campus at W&M for all four years. Roommates and most comprehensive meal plan all the way through. It was fantastic!

It's more expensive for a worse experience. One year of living in a nice dorm + the all access meal plan is $14437.

Almost nowhere off campus would be more expensive even when you add in grocery costs.

I don't think there's any real competition. Some people don't want the additional responsibilities associated with living off campus. But otherwise who's going to pay more for less?

I thought the residential experience was great and I would do that all over again. It made all the difference.

Then there's nothing for landlords to compete for, you already had made your decision.

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Anonymous wrote:I tend to feel like with the great new housing options, more and more students will stay on campus thru junior and senior years. Landlords will need to up their game and professionalism because campus housing for upperclassmen now has solid competition with new on campus dorms.

I really just can't imagine most juniors and seniors choosing to live with a roommate for 4 years and an all access meal plan instead of a kitchen. Singles are still basically unavailable to anyone who doesn't have accomodations. At least for my child and their friends, a nicer dorm still doesn't make up for privacy and independence.

I lived on campus at W&M for all four years. Roommates and most comprehensive meal plan all the way through. It was fantastic!

It's more expensive for a worse experience. One year of living in a nice dorm + the all access meal plan is $14437.

Almost nowhere off campus would be more expensive even when you add in grocery costs.

I don't think there's any real competition. Some people don't want the additional responsibilities associated with living off campus. But otherwise who's going to pay more for less?

I thought the residential experience was great and I would do that all over again. It made all the difference.

Anonymous wrote:Eh..when you are a student who has to be on campus until 10pm, being able to hop back to your dorm in minutes vs finding a bus or walking over a mile to get home? There are places for everyone. Some people love being on campus and it makes more sense for what they need.

I'm not disagreeing with that, just the mentality that living on campus is going to magically become more appealing unless landlords compete more somehow (which when the arguments being made here are all based on location I'm not sure how that would be accomplished). If that was true dorms would be at capacity for fall. It's good to know that there are options for both groups of people, but almost nobody is going to be equally interested in both. The new dorms are more significantly going to accomplish making more high schoolers interested.