Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:35
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am in Texas. Most Texans don't even want it. It was passed with overwhelming opposition from voters. I do wonder if this will impact votes next year.
I'm also in TX and can confirm this. No one wants this. Many of us already send our kids to private school because the public ones are horrible. Vouchers just ensure private schools will raise tuition by the voucher amount.
This. Vouchers are economically the same thing as student loans + guaranteed loan forgiveness, with the same effect: spiraling tuition.
Yes, likely increased tuition for the top private school, but there are some limits on income for the TX voucher program, $160k per family.
I don’t think the $10k catholic schools will be 20k because of the voucher, because then you’ll have cheaper schools serve the families that can’t afford to pay above the voucher amount.
Why wouldn’t a $10k school raise tuition to $20k ?
You seem very uninformed about the Texas voucher law. Maybe read up for 5 mins before commenting.
Schools may or may not raise the tuition it depends what students and families they want to attract. If the increase in tuition goes into better paid teachers or smaller classes, that is not necessarily a bad thing.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:28
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am in Texas. Most Texans don't even want it. It was passed with overwhelming opposition from voters. I do wonder if this will impact votes next year.
I'm also in TX and can confirm this. No one wants this. Many of us already send our kids to private school because the public ones are horrible. Vouchers just ensure private schools will raise tuition by the voucher amount.
This. Vouchers are economically the same thing as student loans + guaranteed loan forgiveness, with the same effect: spiraling tuition.
Yes, likely increased tuition for the top private school, but there are some limits on income for the TX voucher program, $160k per family.
I don’t think the $10k catholic schools will be 20k because of the voucher, because then you’ll have cheaper schools serve the families that can’t afford to pay above the voucher amount.
Why wouldn’t a $10k school raise tuition to $20k ?
Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:27
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am in Texas. Most Texans don't even want it. It was passed with overwhelming opposition from voters. I do wonder if this will impact votes next year.
I'm also in TX and can confirm this. No one wants this. Many of us already send our kids to private school because the public ones are horrible. Vouchers just ensure private schools will raise tuition by the voucher amount.
This. Vouchers are economically the same thing as student loans + guaranteed loan forgiveness, with the same effect: spiraling tuition.
Yes, likely increased tuition for the top private school, but there are some limits on income for the TX voucher program, $160k per family.
I don’t think the $10k catholic schools will be 20k because of the voucher, because then you’ll have cheaper schools serve the families that can’t afford to pay above the voucher amount.
In the TX system, a family has to make under $160k to qualify?
Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:26
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:kAnonymous wrote:The OP asks about vouchers in DC or the DMV. Would there be enough vouchers and spaces in private schools for all 50k kids in DCPS? Or the other 47k in DCPCS? Shouldn’t all the families have a choice?
Anyone in favor of vouchers want to field this one?
Where there are not enough private schools, who of the 50k students gets a voucher? Who decides?
The vast majority of those parents don’t give a crap about their kids and aren’t raising them properly and wouldn’t bother to fill in the paperwork to get them into a private school, let alone enforce the discipline standards, make sure they do their homework, etc. If everyone was a good parent then we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
Not an answer.
The answer is that you won’t need to find anywhere close to 50k places.
Let’s say 15k. Show me where those fifteen thousand private school seats are in DC. Go ahead.
Catholic schools are about $10-15k for k-8, and $20-25k for high school.
No, fifteen thousand private school places, not tuition. And that’s not even counting the over 40k students in DCPCS schools.
There’s no market for it yet, but it’s conceivable that with vouchers, new private schools will serve the students some likely employing teachers and administrators from existing public schools.
Which kids get to attend?
The new schools would of course be non-profit, just like the private ones today. Kids that would go to public, will now have the option to attend these schools if they choose so.
Which kids get to go to which schools? Who decides? Will there be enough voucher money for every child in DC? Nearly 100,000 students?
Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:21
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am in Texas. Most Texans don't even want it. It was passed with overwhelming opposition from voters. I do wonder if this will impact votes next year.
I'm also in TX and can confirm this. No one wants this. Many of us already send our kids to private school because the public ones are horrible. Vouchers just ensure private schools will raise tuition by the voucher amount.
This. Vouchers are economically the same thing as student loans + guaranteed loan forgiveness, with the same effect: spiraling tuition.
Yes, likely increased tuition for the top private school, but there are some limits on income for the TX voucher program, $160k per family.
I don’t think the $10k catholic schools will be 20k because of the voucher, because then you’ll have cheaper schools serve the families that can’t afford to pay above the voucher amount.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:08
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am in Texas. Most Texans don't even want it. It was passed with overwhelming opposition from voters. I do wonder if this will impact votes next year.
I'm also in TX and can confirm this. No one wants this. Many of us already send our kids to private school because the public ones are horrible. Vouchers just ensure private schools will raise tuition by the voucher amount.
This. Vouchers are economically the same thing as student loans + guaranteed loan forgiveness, with the same effect: spiraling tuition.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 18:04
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:kAnonymous wrote:The OP asks about vouchers in DC or the DMV. Would there be enough vouchers and spaces in private schools for all 50k kids in DCPS? Or the other 47k in DCPCS? Shouldn’t all the families have a choice?
Anyone in favor of vouchers want to field this one?
Where there are not enough private schools, who of the 50k students gets a voucher? Who decides?
The vast majority of those parents don’t give a crap about their kids and aren’t raising them properly and wouldn’t bother to fill in the paperwork to get them into a private school, let alone enforce the discipline standards, make sure they do their homework, etc. If everyone was a good parent then we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
Not an answer.
The answer is that you won’t need to find anywhere close to 50k places.
Let’s say 15k. Show me where those fifteen thousand private school seats are in DC. Go ahead.
Catholic schools are about $10-15k for k-8, and $20-25k for high school.
No, fifteen thousand private school places, not tuition. And that’s not even counting the over 40k students in DCPCS schools.
There’s no market for it yet, but it’s conceivable that with vouchers, new private schools will serve the students some likely employing teachers and administrators from existing public schools.
Which kids get to attend?
The new schools would of course be non-profit, just like the private ones today. Kids that would go to public, will now have the option to attend these schools if they choose so.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 17:58
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:kAnonymous wrote:The OP asks about vouchers in DC or the DMV. Would there be enough vouchers and spaces in private schools for all 50k kids in DCPS? Or the other 47k in DCPCS? Shouldn’t all the families have a choice?
Anyone in favor of vouchers want to field this one?
Where there are not enough private schools, who of the 50k students gets a voucher? Who decides?
The vast majority of those parents don’t give a crap about their kids and aren’t raising them properly and wouldn’t bother to fill in the paperwork to get them into a private school, let alone enforce the discipline standards, make sure they do their homework, etc. If everyone was a good parent then we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
Not an answer.
The answer is that you won’t need to find anywhere close to 50k places.
Let’s say 15k. Show me where those fifteen thousand private school seats are in DC. Go ahead.
Catholic schools are about $10-15k for k-8, and $20-25k for high school.
No, fifteen thousand private school places, not tuition. And that’s not even counting the over 40k students in DCPCS schools.
There’s no market for it yet, but it’s conceivable that with vouchers, new private schools will serve the students some likely employing teachers and administrators from existing public schools.
Which kids get to attend?
Anonymous
05/06/2025 17:55
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The OP asks about vouchers in DC or the DMV. Would there be enough vouchers and spaces in private schools for all 50k kids in DCPS? Or the other 47k in DCPCS? Shouldn’t all the families have a choice?
Anyone in favor of vouchers want to field this one?
Where there are not enough private schools, who of the 50k students gets a voucher? Who decides?
The vast majority of those parents don’t give a crap about their kids and aren’t raising them properly and wouldn’t bother to fill in the paperwork to get them into a private school, let alone enforce the discipline standards, make sure they do their homework, etc. If everyone was a good parent then we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
Not an answer.
The answer is that you won’t need to find anywhere close to 50k places.
Let’s say 15k. Show me where those fifteen thousand private school seats are in DC. Go ahead.
Catholic schools are about $10-15k for k-8, and $20-25k for high school.
No, fifteen thousand private school places, not tuition. And that’s not even counting the over 40k students in DCPCS schools.
There’s no market for it yet, but it’s conceivable that with vouchers, new private schools will serve the students some likely employing teachers and administrators from existing public schools.
Would these new schools be for profit?
Anonymous
05/06/2025 17:55
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/Q82weiAJmaA?si=FqaAy2hi1uXiVPMI
Steve Jobs supported vouchers and I do too.
Vice-presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman (an extremely wise man), supported vouchers.
I heard that’s what got him elected to the vice-presid…Oh, wait…
Anonymous
05/06/2025 17:35
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:kAnonymous wrote:The OP asks about vouchers in DC or the DMV. Would there be enough vouchers and spaces in private schools for all 50k kids in DCPS? Or the other 47k in DCPCS? Shouldn’t all the families have a choice?
Anyone in favor of vouchers want to field this one?
Where there are not enough private schools, who of the 50k students gets a voucher? Who decides?
The vast majority of those parents don’t give a crap about their kids and aren’t raising them properly and wouldn’t bother to fill in the paperwork to get them into a private school, let alone enforce the discipline standards, make sure they do their homework, etc. If everyone was a good parent then we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
Not an answer.
The answer is that you won’t need to find anywhere close to 50k places.
Let’s say 15k. Show me where those fifteen thousand private school seats are in DC. Go ahead.
Catholic schools are about $10-15k for k-8, and $20-25k for high school.
No, fifteen thousand private school places, not tuition. And that’s not even counting the over 40k students in DCPCS schools.
There’s no market for it yet, but it’s conceivable that with vouchers, new private schools will serve the students some likely employing teachers and administrators from existing public schools.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 16:41
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:kAnonymous wrote:The OP asks about vouchers in DC or the DMV. Would there be enough vouchers and spaces in private schools for all 50k kids in DCPS? Or the other 47k in DCPCS? Shouldn’t all the families have a choice?
Anyone in favor of vouchers want to field this one?
Where there are not enough private schools, who of the 50k students gets a voucher? Who decides?
The vast majority of those parents don’t give a crap about their kids and aren’t raising them properly and wouldn’t bother to fill in the paperwork to get them into a private school, let alone enforce the discipline standards, make sure they do their homework, etc. If everyone was a good parent then we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
Not an answer.
The answer is that you won’t need to find anywhere close to 50k places.
Let’s say 15k. Show me where those fifteen thousand private school seats are in DC. Go ahead.
Catholic schools are about $10-15k for k-8, and $20-25k for high school.
No, fifteen thousand private school places, not tuition. And that’s not even counting the over 40k students in DCPCS schools.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 16:25
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:kAnonymous wrote:The OP asks about vouchers in DC or the DMV. Would there be enough vouchers and spaces in private schools for all 50k kids in DCPS? Or the other 47k in DCPCS? Shouldn’t all the families have a choice?
Anyone in favor of vouchers want to field this one?
Where there are not enough private schools, who of the 50k students gets a voucher? Who decides?
The vast majority of those parents don’t give a crap about their kids and aren’t raising them properly and wouldn’t bother to fill in the paperwork to get them into a private school, let alone enforce the discipline standards, make sure they do their homework, etc. If everyone was a good parent then we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
Not an answer.
The answer is that you won’t need to find anywhere close to 50k places.
Let’s say 15k. Show me where those fifteen thousand private school seats are in DC. Go ahead.
Catholic schools are about $10-15k for k-8, and $20-25k for high school.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 15:48
Subject: Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:kAnonymous wrote:The OP asks about vouchers in DC or the DMV. Would there be enough vouchers and spaces in private schools for all 50k kids in DCPS? Or the other 47k in DCPCS? Shouldn’t all the families have a choice?
Anyone in favor of vouchers want to field this one?
Where there are not enough private schools, who of the 50k students gets a voucher? Who decides?
The vast majority of those parents don’t give a crap about their kids and aren’t raising them properly and wouldn’t bother to fill in the paperwork to get them into a private school, let alone enforce the discipline standards, make sure they do their homework, etc. If everyone was a good parent then we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
Not an answer.
The answer is that you won’t need to find anywhere close to 50k places.
Let’s say 15k. Show me where those fifteen thousand private school seats are in DC. Go ahead.
Anonymous
05/06/2025 15:36
Subject: Re:Do you want Texas's school voucher program in DC or DMV?
Anonymous wrote:The hate towards poor people and freedom of choice is really frightening in this thread.
Support students! Pass a voucher law!!
DC has a voucher program. It has nothing to do with hate .. you are just lacking basic knowledge.