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Anonymous wrote:Mine turned into a martyr. He must have asked me why I was mad at him 45 times a day. Guilty conscious.

Turns out he was cheating with men. It destroyed me.

Did you suspect at any point that he was also into men? As a straight men I always wonder if it's possible for a gay man to still have an erection while having sex with a woman.

He was likely bi. Gay men have sex with other men not women.

Oof. profound ignorance here. Most gay men have had sex with women.
Citation? Me, gay man.

Not the PP but I didn't know this. I am learning something new. I always thought gay men from a very young age were just never turned on by women. Thanks for reaching us.

Many of my gay friends knew they were gay because they'd had sex with women and felt it was missing something. But I'm middle aged; perhaps the younger gay men are freer to jump straight into the kind of relationships they want without having to take a detour through the socially acceptable ones first.

If the detour is 20 years and four kids, I'm going to label that guy bi, even if he is out and proud with his new young husband.

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Anonymous wrote:And many of these women chose to stay with these men.....I never cheated, never financially answer my ex wife, was a full 50% partner throughout our marriage and get she divorced me. My crime was that I was mostly working and was not emotionally supportive enough. Yet when I was around we still had sex, went on dates etc...

Some of the sh***t that these men put their wives through and still get second chances to me just show that it's very hard to know exactly what makes a woman finally leave.

One of the worst thing a man can do in a marriage is being nice and a equal partner and not be assertive.

We all know why you're single and no one wants anything serious from you. If you're rich you can get a bit of action, but you are just being used - may as well pay a prostitute. No one wants you long term.

Lol i m married and bang my wife whenever i want. I can also very easily bang many other women but choose not to because of my morals.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these stories just makes me ill. The description of these men primping, buying new underwear, paying meticulous attention to personal hygiene, etc. This is what you do when you’re dating. How on earth can men with wives and families and homes live in that environment and still have the temerity to court a new woman? Like where is their humanity and ethics? This isn’t getting drunk at a bar on a business trip and messing up. This is getting ready for a date in your own home while your wife is in the next room, probably feeding your kids dinner. It’s chillingly sociopathic.

Agree. Chillingly sociopathic, and narcissistic, and then they lose complete grasp on reality and start blaming their spouse for "making them" do it.
Men and women. One of the worst sins there is- destroying a family, yet almost no consequences in current society. Disgusting

Nope. Usually the only person with negative consequences is the betrayed spouse, who has had their world and how they understand it torn to shreds. They lose all their reality, often their confidence, ability to trust, not to mention their family, some friends and life as they knew it. And even as demonstrated here, they get the blame too.

Speak for yourself. Sure, I wallowed for a few months. Then I got strategic and secured my position. (Joke's on him for being a lazy MFer and making me do all the household and financial management.) And then I kicked his overweight manbaby ass out, kept the house and everything in it, and kept half his retirement. He (and his side piece) had to move in with his parents. Zero regrets.

It was actually a huge confidence boost, and I was well supported by family and friends throughout. And then one of those supportive friends became more, and now I'm five years into a loving and satisfying relationship.

I think betrayed spouses do themselves a disservice by going all "woe is me." Stand up for yourself. Cheaters deserve everything you can throw at them.

Your situation is unique, you know that, right? You’re either in denial or a sociopath. The rest of us are traumatized, even if we, too, “kicked his overweight manbaby ass out”.

Yeah, I've met divorcees with those vibes. The manic look in the eye. The very loud "Great!!" when you ask them how they're doing. The never-shut-the-fck-up-about-it one-sided conversations.

"Uh, okay, glad you're doing GREAT"

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Anonymous wrote:And many of these women chose to stay with these men.....I never cheated, never financially answer my ex wife, was a full 50% partner throughout our marriage and get she divorced me. My crime was that I was mostly working and was not emotionally supportive enough. Yet when I was around we still had sex, went on dates etc...

Some of the sh***t that these men put their wives through and still get second chances to me just show that it's very hard to know exactly what makes a woman finally leave.

One of the worst thing a man can do in a marriage is being nice and a equal partner and not be assertive.

We all know why you're single and no one wants anything serious from you. If you're rich you can get a bit of action, but you are just being used - may as well pay a prostitute. No one wants you long term.

Lol i m married and bang my wife whenever i want. I can also very easily bang many other women but choose not to because of my morals.

How's life in mom's basement?

Lol, you are unable to accept that some people have it good.

Oh I know some people have it good. You are not one of those people.

How do you know that?

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Some of the sh***t that these men put their wives through and still get second chances to me just show that it's very hard to know exactly what makes a woman finally leave.

One of the worst thing a man can do in a marriage is being nice and a equal partner and not be assertive.

We all know why you're single and no one wants anything serious from you. If you're rich you can get a bit of action, but you are just being used - may as well pay a prostitute. No one wants you long term.

Lol i m married and bang my wife whenever i want. I can also very easily bang many other women but choose not to because of my morals.

How's life in mom's basement?

Lol, you are unable to accept that some people have it good.

Oh I know some people have it good. You are not one of those people.

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Anonymous wrote:And many of these women chose to stay with these men.....I never cheated, never financially answer my ex wife, was a full 50% partner throughout our marriage and get she divorced me. My crime was that I was mostly working and was not emotionally supportive enough. Yet when I was around we still had sex, went on dates etc...

Some of the sh***t that these men put their wives through and still get second chances to me just show that it's very hard to know exactly what makes a woman finally leave.

One of the worst thing a man can do in a marriage is being nice and a equal partner and not be assertive.

We all know why you're single and no one wants anything serious from you. If you're rich you can get a bit of action, but you are just being used - may as well pay a prostitute. No one wants you long term.

Lol i m married and bang my wife whenever i want. I can also very easily bang many other women but choose not to because of my morals.

How's life in mom's basement?

Lol, you are unable to accept that some people have it good.

Anonymous wrote:Secretive about his phone/electronics, highly critical of every little thing I did, a lot more "work dinners" and functions, getting out of bed at odd hours (presumably to text with AP), and the general feeling that he was disengaged from family life, picking arguments, walking out instead of trying to resolve issues, etc.

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Some of the sh***t that these men put their wives through and still get second chances to me just show that it's very hard to know exactly what makes a woman finally leave.

One of the worst thing a man can do in a marriage is being nice and a equal partner and not be assertive.

We all know why you're single and no one wants anything serious from you. If you're rich you can get a bit of action, but you are just being used - may as well pay a prostitute. No one wants you long term.

Lol i m married and bang my wife whenever i want. I can also very easily bang many other women but choose not to because of my morals.

How's life in mom's basement?

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Anonymous wrote:And many of these women chose to stay with these men.....I never cheated, never financially answer my ex wife, was a full 50% partner throughout our marriage and get she divorced me. My crime was that I was mostly working and was not emotionally supportive enough. Yet when I was around we still had sex, went on dates etc...

Some of the sh***t that these men put their wives through and still get second chances to me just show that it's very hard to know exactly what makes a woman finally leave.

One of the worst thing a man can do in a marriage is being nice and a equal partner and not be assertive.

We all know why you're single and no one wants anything serious from you. If you're rich you can get a bit of action, but you are just being used - may as well pay a prostitute. No one wants you long term.

Lol i m married and bang my wife whenever i want. I can also very easily bang many other women but choose not to because of my morals.

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Anonymous wrote:And many of these women chose to stay with these men.....I never cheated, never financially answer my ex wife, was a full 50% partner throughout our marriage and get she divorced me. My crime was that I was mostly working and was not emotionally supportive enough. Yet when I was around we still had sex, went on dates etc...

Some of the sh***t that these men put their wives through and still get second chances to me just show that it's very hard to know exactly what makes a woman finally leave.

One of the worst thing a man can do in a marriage is being nice and a equal partner and not be assertive.

We all know why you're single and no one wants anything serious from you. If you're rich you can get a bit of action, but you are just being used - may as well pay a prostitute. No one wants you long term.

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Gross. That 'single friend' was her and she was telling you about banging her AP.

DP. I agree.

PP, I am so sorry to hear your story. Did your DW come clean about her affair(s)? Was she an alcoholic?

She was fast becoming an alcaholic. Honestly, I think she was just really unhappy, felt guilty for what she was doing yet wanted to keep doing it.

She didn’t come clean, I busted her.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these stories just makes me ill. The description of these men primping, buying new underwear, paying meticulous attention to personal hygiene, etc. This is what you do when you’re dating. How on earth can men with wives and families and homes live in that environment and still have the temerity to court a new woman? Like where is their humanity and ethics? This isn’t getting drunk at a bar on a business trip and messing up. This is getting ready for a date in your own home while your wife is in the next room, probably feeding your kids dinner. It’s chillingly sociopathic.

Agree. Chillingly sociopathic, and narcissistic, and then they lose complete grasp on reality and start blaming their spouse for "making them" do it.
Men and women. One of the worst sins there is- destroying a family, yet almost no consequences in current society. Disgusting

Nope. Usually the only person with negative consequences is the betrayed spouse, who has had their world and how they understand it torn to shreds. They lose all their reality, often their confidence, ability to trust, not to mention their family, some friends and life as they knew it. And even as demonstrated here, they get the blame too.

Speak for yourself. Sure, I wallowed for a few months. Then I got strategic and secured my position. (Joke's on him for being a lazy MFer and making me do all the household and financial management.) And then I kicked his overweight manbaby ass out, kept the house and everything in it, and kept half his retirement. He (and his side piece) had to move in with his parents. Zero regrets.

It was actually a huge confidence boost, and I was well supported by family and friends throughout. And then one of those supportive friends became more, and now I'm five years into a loving and satisfying relationship.

I think betrayed spouses do themselves a disservice by going all "woe is me." Stand up for yourself. Cheaters deserve everything you can throw at them.

Your situation is unique, you know that, right? You’re either in denial or a sociopath. The rest of us are traumatized, even if we, too, “kicked his overweight manbaby ass out”.