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Anonymous wrote:Extremely sad news is not even the way to begin this. Three students were in an accident near the Pentagon, their BMW hit a Lexus. Two did not survive. I am hearing these are students from a Fairfax county high School. This is beyond tragic.

It sucks. It’s a bummer. But it’s not “tragic.” This doesn’t meet any definition of tragedy

Correct. This is NOT a tragedy. This is an entirely expected and predictable outcome.

A tragedy would’ve involved them hurting or killing innocent people in the other vehicle. Fortunately it sounds like tragedy was narrowly avoided, and only the negligent participants suffered the consequences.


This wasn’t tragic - this was lucky.

It is still a tragedy for the other vehicle occupants. My mother was hit head on by a drunk driver going the wrong way on a highway. She was in the hospital for 6 months. For the remainder of her life, she had debilitating anxiety with highways, driving over about 45, driving at night, etc. There will be lifelong repercussions for the Lexus passengers, and that’s tragic as it sounds like they had no connection to the BMW occupants who made very poor choices.

The lack of empathy is mind-boggling. It is a tragic loss of young life, due to poor judgment that is all too common at that age. It is tragic regardless of whether there was culpability in the accident.

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These posts are just baffling. It is tragic all around. These posts are are just incomprehensible.

You don’t understand the meaning of the word “tragedy” or “tragic.”

It’s a lot of very bad things. But it isn’t a “tragedy.”

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Anonymous wrote:The gun analogy really IS perfect. A kid with a BMW has basically been given the automotive equivalent of an AR15. Just as there are many types of guns, with some of them being less-equipped for spree-killers, whereas AR15 type guns are more-equipped for mass-shooters. So it is also with cars. A BMW is much more equipped to be driven irresponsiblly than a minivan or economy car. I’d go so far as to say there’s no justification for ANYONE to own a high performance car such as these, just as there’s no justification for anyone to own an AR15 rather than a standard hunting type rifle that only shoots one bullet. Put simply, just as hunters don’t need AR15 guns, drivers don’t need the equivalent of race cars.

No it’s not. A newer bmw will have better safety features.

Does it have a speed governor?

No, you moron, it does not.
Can you name me a car that does?

I don’t know what PP means by a speed governor. But we can check the speed that our BMW drivers go and we get notifications of it exceeds a certain point. Also our insurance carrier has a program where we can have speed monitored.

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Anonymous wrote:Extremely sad news is not even the way to begin this. Three students were in an accident near the Pentagon, their BMW hit a Lexus. Two did not survive. I am hearing these are students from a Fairfax county high School. This is beyond tragic.

It sucks. It’s a bummer. But it’s not “tragic.” This doesn’t meet any definition of tragedy

Correct. This is NOT a tragedy. This is an entirely expected and predictable outcome.

A tragedy would’ve involved them hurting or killing innocent people in the other vehicle. Fortunately it sounds like tragedy was narrowly avoided, and only the negligent participants suffered the consequences.


This wasn’t tragic - this was lucky.

It is still a tragedy for the other vehicle occupants. My mother was hit head on by a drunk driver going the wrong way on a highway. She was in the hospital for 6 months. For the remainder of her life, she had debilitating anxiety with highways, driving over about 45, driving at night, etc. There will be lifelong repercussions for the Lexus passengers, and that’s tragic as it sounds like they had no connection to the BMW occupants who made very poor choices.

The lack of empathy is mind-boggling. It is a tragic loss of young life, due to poor judgment that is all too common at that age. It is tragic regardless of whether there was culpability in the accident.

+1

These posts are just baffling. It is tragic all around. These posts are are just incomprehensible.

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Anonymous wrote:Extremely sad news is not even the way to begin this. Three students were in an accident near the Pentagon, their BMW hit a Lexus. Two did not survive. I am hearing these are students from a Fairfax county high School. This is beyond tragic.

It sucks. It’s a bummer. But it’s not “tragic.” This doesn’t meet any definition of tragedy

Correct. This is NOT a tragedy. This is an entirely expected and predictable outcome.

A tragedy would’ve involved them hurting or killing innocent people in the other vehicle. Fortunately it sounds like tragedy was narrowly avoided, and only the negligent participants suffered the consequences.


This wasn’t tragic - this was lucky.

It is still a tragedy for the other vehicle occupants. My mother was hit head on by a drunk driver going the wrong way on a highway. She was in the hospital for 6 months. For the remainder of her life, she had debilitating anxiety with highways, driving over about 45, driving at night, etc. There will be lifelong repercussions for the Lexus passengers, and that’s tragic as it sounds like they had no connection to the BMW occupants who made very poor choices.

The lack of empathy is mind-boggling. It is a tragic loss of young life, due to poor judgment that is all too common at that age. It is tragic regardless of whether there was culpability in the accident.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Extremely sad news is not even the way to begin this. Three students were in an accident near the Pentagon, their BMW hit a Lexus. Two did not survive. I am hearing these are students from a Fairfax county high School. This is beyond tragic.

It sucks. It’s a bummer. But it’s not “tragic.” This doesn’t meet any definition of tragedy

Correct. This is NOT a tragedy. This is an entirely expected and predictable outcome.

A tragedy would’ve involved them hurting or killing innocent people in the other vehicle. Fortunately it sounds like tragedy was narrowly avoided, and only the negligent participants suffered the consequences.


This wasn’t tragic - this was lucky.

It is still a tragedy for the other vehicle occupants. My mother was hit head on by a drunk driver going the wrong way on a highway. She was in the hospital for 6 months. For the remainder of her life, she had debilitating anxiety with highways, driving over about 45, driving at night, etc. There will be lifelong repercussions for the Lexus passengers, and that’s tragic as it sounds like they had no connection to the BMW occupants who made very poor choices.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one of the problems around here is that as soon as teenagers get their license, parents give them free range. My child recently got their drivers license, and they are only allowed to drive to and from school, places that are nearby that they’ve been before, etc.🏫 , and during daylight hours. This will keep up for a few months until they prove that they are ready for more. They also are not allowed to listen to music while they drive right now. All of the stuff is trackable and I make sure that they follow these rules. I think for the first six months parents need to be a lot more strict about what kids are allowed to do.

I understand your point. But this is what the permit process and required hours on the road is supposed to address. I get it. More is better. But this post suggests that the "probation period" come after the license is issued. That is not how it works. Unless the parent is lying about hours and not doing any supervision.

I posted the above, and yes ... sort of. We did our hours and did all of the Behind the Wheel and training, but to me, driving in a car with my husband or myself on the lookout for potential danger (even if we don't speak, if it comes to a point where it would be an accident causing mistake - like running a red light, we jump in). And of course if that happened a lot we wouldn't have proceeded with licenses. But, we also watched the police parent video that was required that gave statistics about how many accidents happen in the first six months of having a license (MANY more than happen during the permit period because there is no parent in the car) and we just want to make sure that we, as parents, don't take this responsibility lightly. I don't want to put anyone else in danger because I am not being careful.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun analogy really IS perfect. A kid with a BMW has basically been given the automotive equivalent of an AR15. Just as there are many types of guns, with some of them being less-equipped for spree-killers, whereas AR15 type guns are more-equipped for mass-shooters. So it is also with cars. A BMW is much more equipped to be driven irresponsiblly than a minivan or economy car. I’d go so far as to say there’s no justification for ANYONE to own a high performance car such as these, just as there’s no justification for anyone to own an AR15 rather than a standard hunting type rifle that only shoots one bullet. Put simply, just as hunters don’t need AR15 guns, drivers don’t need the equivalent of race cars.

No it’s not. A newer bmw will have better safety features.

Does it have a speed governor?

No, you moron, it does not.
Can you name me a car that does?

https://www.arlnow.com/2025/03/28/teen-sentenced-for-arlington-dui-crash-that-killed-w-l-graduate/

Brooks Bare sentenced.

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Anonymous wrote:I think one of the problems around here is that as soon as teenagers get their license, parents give them free range. My child recently got their drivers license, and they are only allowed to drive to and from school, places that are nearby that they’ve been before, etc.🏫 , and during daylight hours. This will keep up for a few months until they prove that they are ready for more. They also are not allowed to listen to music while they drive right now. All of the stuff is trackable and I make sure that they follow these rules. I think for the first six months parents need to be a lot more strict about what kids are allowed to do.

I understand your point. But this is what the permit process and required hours on the road is supposed to address. I get it. More is better. But this post suggests that the "probation period" come after the license is issued. That is not how it works. Unless the parent is lying about hours and not doing any supervision.

Virginia does have a probationary period for young drivers. https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/licenses-ids/learners/restrictions

They should not allow teenagers to drive around in these BMWs !

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Anonymous wrote:Many of yall are parents, and obviously show no remorse when it comes to other peoples kids, these were my friends and they are not alive anymore, I'll never get to see them ever again. Imagine that.

I hope you and your friends view it as a wake up call and learn something from it. To be reckless is to be young, but when you are driving a 2 ton vehicle at high rates of speed recklessness kills, driving a car isn't a game it's a huge responsibility. Learning from the mistakes of others is how one lives long enough to become judgmental and critical.

You’re disgusting

Anonymous wrote:I think one of the problems around here is that as soon as teenagers get their license, parents give them free range. My child recently got their drivers license, and they are only allowed to drive to and from school, places that are nearby that they’ve been before, etc.🏫 , and during daylight hours. This will keep up for a few months until they prove that they are ready for more. They also are not allowed to listen to music while they drive right now. All of the stuff is trackable and I make sure that they follow these rules. I think for the first six months parents need to be a lot more strict about what kids are allowed to do.

I understand your point. But this is what the permit process and required hours on the road is supposed to address. I get it. More is better. But this post suggests that the "probation period" come after the license is issued. That is not how it works. Unless the parent is lying about hours and not doing any supervision.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Extremely sad news is not even the way to begin this. Three students were in an accident near the Pentagon, their BMW hit a Lexus. Two did not survive. I am hearing these are students from a Fairfax county high School. This is beyond tragic.

It sucks. It’s a bummer. But it’s not “tragic.” This doesn’t meet any definition of tragedy

Confirming my longstanding suspicion that some of the worst humans on earth hang out on DCUM.

+1000

Yep. They’re easy to spot - they’re the ones defending their choice to provide their 17 year old kid with a BMW or other sports car.

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Anonymous wrote:Extremely sad news is not even the way to begin this. Three students were in an accident near the Pentagon, their BMW hit a Lexus. Two did not survive. I am hearing these are students from a Fairfax county high School. This is beyond tragic.

It sucks. It’s a bummer. But it’s not “tragic.” This doesn’t meet any definition of tragedy

Confirming my longstanding suspicion that some of the worst humans on earth hang out on DCUM.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:Many of yall are parents, and obviously show no remorse when it comes to other peoples kids, these were my friends and they are not alive anymore, I'll never get to see them ever again. Imagine that.

I hope you and your friends view it as a wake up call and learn something from it. To be reckless is to be young, but when you are driving a 2 ton vehicle at high rates of speed recklessness kills, driving a car isn't a game it's a huge responsibility. Learning from the mistakes of others is how one lives long enough to become judgmental and critical.