Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pink and Cher were performing with their kids. Duet style. Blue Ivy had at least two solos where she was the show - the central performer with a team of back up dancers. Beyoncé wasn’t on stage with her.
I don’t think Taylor Swift or Michelle Kwan were doing world tours at 13 either? A quick google tells me Taylor Swift was 19/20 he first time she did a mini tour and Michelle Kwan first went to the Olympics at 16.
So your issue is with kids of a certain age performing solos?
Michelle Kwan did quite a few competitions prior to the Olympics— on a national and international level. At 12, against the wishes of her coach, she passed a test that would let her compete at a senior level. So a very public career at a very young age, after intense preparation from early childhood. I know less about Taylor Swift, but I believe that she signed her first record contract at 15 or so, and had been performing and writing songs since 12 or 13, when her family moved near Nashville for Taylor’s career. Both had quite a bit of family support. And both performed solo, with national and international audiences.
I’m trying to tease out what the concerns are about Blue Ivy — that are somehow different from other young performers.
I find it hard to believe you would compare Michelle Kwan's skating techniques to the gyrating moves of Beyonce and her daughter.
+1,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pink and Cher were performing with their kids. Duet style. Blue Ivy had at least two solos where she was the show - the central performer with a team of back up dancers. Beyoncé wasn’t on stage with her.
I don’t think Taylor Swift or Michelle Kwan were doing world tours at 13 either? A quick google tells me Taylor Swift was 19/20 he first time she did a mini tour and Michelle Kwan first went to the Olympics at 16.
So your issue is with kids of a certain age performing solos?
Michelle Kwan did quite a few competitions prior to the Olympics— on a national and international level. At 12, against the wishes of her coach, she passed a test that would let her compete at a senior level. So a very public career at a very young age, after intense preparation from early childhood. I know less about Taylor Swift, but I believe that she signed her first record contract at 15 or so, and had been performing and writing songs since 12 or 13, when her family moved near Nashville for Taylor’s career. Both had quite a bit of family support. And both performed solo, with national and international audiences.
I’m trying to tease out what the concerns are about Blue Ivy — that are somehow different from other young performers.
NP. Kwan and Swift were on stage due to their talent.Young skaters are also the norm. Blue Ivy is on stage due to her mother’s talent.
I didn’t find Blue’s involvement in the Renaissance tour inappropriate (also included a dance break) but she seems to be integrated into the entire show now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pink and Cher were performing with their kids. Duet style. Blue Ivy had at least two solos where she was the show - the central performer with a team of back up dancers. Beyoncé wasn’t on stage with her.
I don’t think Taylor Swift or Michelle Kwan were doing world tours at 13 either? A quick google tells me Taylor Swift was 19/20 he first time she did a mini tour and Michelle Kwan first went to the Olympics at 16.
So your issue is with kids of a certain age performing solos?
Michelle Kwan did quite a few competitions prior to the Olympics— on a national and international level. At 12, against the wishes of her coach, she passed a test that would let her compete at a senior level. So a very public career at a very young age, after intense preparation from early childhood. I know less about Taylor Swift, but I believe that she signed her first record contract at 15 or so, and had been performing and writing songs since 12 or 13, when her family moved near Nashville for Taylor’s career. Both had quite a bit of family support. And both performed solo, with national and international audiences.
I’m trying to tease out what the concerns are about Blue Ivy — that are somehow different from other young performers.
I find it hard to believe you would compare Michelle Kwan's skating techniques to the gyrating moves of Beyonce and her daughter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s great that mom and daughter have the same passion and get to perform together. What a bunch of bitter biddies you all are.
I just wonder if Blue has any friends her age. Does she do typical 13 yr old things with them? What she is doing is fun and cool, but it's not a normal-kid-experience. Does she have any normal kid experiences? Or are they all manufactured and over the top, like when Kylie Jenner's homeschooled kid wanted to ride a yellow school bus so the dad rented one and she got a spin around the gated community block. [/quo
Are these ppl so starved for fame they are already pushing their kid into the limelight? Talk about mortality issues. Gosh, if I had that much money as a parent, I’d be exposing my kid to so many different avenues, not just doing a rinse and repeat. The thing is, she has only known this performance lifestyle so you can’t really blame her if it is truly her choice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pink and Cher were performing with their kids. Duet style. Blue Ivy had at least two solos where she was the show - the central performer with a team of back up dancers. Beyoncé wasn’t on stage with her.
I don’t think Taylor Swift or Michelle Kwan were doing world tours at 13 either? A quick google tells me Taylor Swift was 19/20 he first time she did a mini tour and Michelle Kwan first went to the Olympics at 16.
So your issue is with kids of a certain age performing solos?
Michelle Kwan did quite a few competitions prior to the Olympics— on a national and international level. At 12, against the wishes of her coach, she passed a test that would let her compete at a senior level. So a very public career at a very young age, after intense preparation from early childhood. I know less about Taylor Swift, but I believe that she signed her first record contract at 15 or so, and had been performing and writing songs since 12 or 13, when her family moved near Nashville for Taylor’s career. Both had quite a bit of family support. And both performed solo, with national and international audiences.
I’m trying to tease out what the concerns are about Blue Ivy — that are somehow different from other young performers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pink and Cher were performing with their kids. Duet style. Blue Ivy had at least two solos where she was the show - the central performer with a team of back up dancers. Beyoncé wasn’t on stage with her.
I don’t think Taylor Swift or Michelle Kwan were doing world tours at 13 either? A quick google tells me Taylor Swift was 19/20 he first time she did a mini tour and Michelle Kwan first went to the Olympics at 16.
So your issue is with kids of a certain age performing solos?
Michelle Kwan did quite a few competitions prior to the Olympics— on a national and international level. At 12, against the wishes of her coach, she passed a test that would let her compete at a senior level. So a very public career at a very young age, after intense preparation from early childhood. I know less about Taylor Swift, but I believe that she signed her first record contract at 15 or so, and had been performing and writing songs since 12 or 13, when her family moved near Nashville for Taylor’s career. Both had quite a bit of family support. And both performed solo, with national and international audiences.
I’m trying to tease out what the concerns are about Blue Ivy — that are somehow different from other young performers.
I find it hard to believe you would compare Michelle Kwan's skating techniques to the gyrating moves of Beyonce and her daughter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Money people it's all about the money.
Bey is getting older daddy hasn't done much.
Time for next gen to support them.
Beyoncé and Jay Z are worth over a billion dollars. That is generational wealth. They don’t need Blue to start supporting their family as a 13 year old. This isn’t 1925.
Yes in this case I don't think it's for the money. Presumably the kids want to do it and also it gives them credits for their "resume," like being a singer on their recorded music.
Logistically though, I always wonder if they being paid as official performers just because my mind always goes to that aspect.
And Jay Z rode that gravy train. I am from NY and I know his old Girlfriend right before Beyonce. He was dating a nice African American women who was an Internal Auditor and Bank of Ireland of all places. Beyonce was a child basically but a cash cow he could mold at time. His old GF went on to work at Societe Generale as an Internal Auditor and on to a normal life. He did not want that, he had that.
So why suprised he is doing this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pink and Cher were performing with their kids. Duet style. Blue Ivy had at least two solos where she was the show - the central performer with a team of back up dancers. Beyoncé wasn’t on stage with her.
I don’t think Taylor Swift or Michelle Kwan were doing world tours at 13 either? A quick google tells me Taylor Swift was 19/20 he first time she did a mini tour and Michelle Kwan first went to the Olympics at 16.
So your issue is with kids of a certain age performing solos?
Michelle Kwan did quite a few competitions prior to the Olympics— on a national and international level. At 12, against the wishes of her coach, she passed a test that would let her compete at a senior level. So a very public career at a very young age, after intense preparation from early childhood. I know less about Taylor Swift, but I believe that she signed her first record contract at 15 or so, and had been performing and writing songs since 12 or 13, when her family moved near Nashville for Taylor’s career. Both had quite a bit of family support. And both performed solo, with national and international audiences.
I’m trying to tease out what the concerns are about Blue Ivy — that are somehow different from other young performers.
Anonymous wrote:Pink and Cher were performing with their kids. Duet style. Blue Ivy had at least two solos where she was the show - the central performer with a team of back up dancers. Beyoncé wasn’t on stage with her.
I don’t think Taylor Swift or Michelle Kwan were doing world tours at 13 either? A quick google tells me Taylor Swift was 19/20 he first time she did a mini tour and Michelle Kwan first went to the Olympics at 16.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am neither right wing nor a bot but I don't think a 13 year old should be performing on stage in world tours.
If she came on for a few minutes like the younger one did - great. But to be part of the machine that is a full time performer on stage and integrated into the music scene at 13, I think it is too young.
There are too many child stars and young teen musicians who have been turned into working adults at a young age and the power and people around them corrupt them and disrupt their age appropriate development. No matter who her parents are, she is still 13. No matter how adult her body is, her brain is still 13.
+1 Thank you for your commonsense post.
Anonymous wrote:I am neither right wing nor a bot but I don't think a 13 year old should be performing on stage in world tours.
If she came on for a few minutes like the younger one did - great. But to be part of the machine that is a full time performer on stage and integrated into the music scene at 13, I think it is too young.
There are too many child stars and young teen musicians who have been turned into working adults at a young age and the power and people around them corrupt them and disrupt their age appropriate development. No matter who her parents are, she is still 13. No matter how adult her body is, her brain is still 13.