Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:13
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!
Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."
More from the judge:
Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.
Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/
She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.
Can you explain that for non-lawyers?
SCOTUS directed her to specify what she wanted DOJ to do specifically - order said to outline terms for “effectuate.” She still hasn’t said that. Is she demanding Trump provide evidence that he has asked ES for example? DOJ is saying you still need to explain this and she is evading and proceeding to discovery while throwing out contempt trial balloons. It’s a dance she will lose.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:12
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.
+ million. Trump pays money to El Salvador, and El Salvador won’t listen to Trump. So Trump is getting rolled by a third world country. So weak, so sad.
We aren’t paying for his imprisonment.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:11
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!
Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."
More from the judge:
Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.
Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/
She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.
Can you explain that for non-lawyers?
Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:11
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.
The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.
You are so weak, just like your king.
No I just don’t spew falsehoods on this board and correct the ones I see.
Name calling is beneath you.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:10
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!
Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."
More from the judge:
Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.
Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/
She is fishing for a contempt charge but not accomplishing anything. Note how she doesn’t outright say what she wants DOJ to do as per “facilitate”. She knows the minute she gets specific DOJ will appeal claiming article 11 powers.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:10
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.
The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.
You are so weak, just like your king.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:10
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.
+ million. Trump pays money to El Salvador, and El Salvador won’t listen to Trump. So Trump is getting rolled by a third world country. So weak, so sad.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:09
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.
The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 18:06
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Some excerpts from an article on the latest developments in this case--Judge Xinis is kicking a**!
Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."
More from the judge:
Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.
Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/
Judge Xinis "was holding off at this juncture on deciding whether the government should be held in contempt but would still rule down the road.
For now, the judge ordered the administration to respond to interrogatories and document production requests. She also ordered the four government officials who signed affidavits in the case to sit for depositions by April 23, giving Abrego Garcia’s lawyers a chance to question key immigration officials in the administration."
More from the judge:
Xinis suggested a fast pace for the depositions and review of discovery — something that would ultimately put her on a path to determining whether to hold anyone from the Trump administration in contempt. “We’re going to move. There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship and grandstanding,” she said. “There are no business hours while we do this — there are going to be two intense weeks of discovery,” she added later.
Judge orders Trump officials’ depositions, blasts inaction in Abrego Garcia case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5250548-trump-abrego-garcia-deposition/
Anonymous
04/15/2025 17:58
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
Exactly. Why don't people see this?
Poor, pathetic USA.
It's just too scary for USA to ask the big, bad, all powerful Salvadorans to release someone from the prison (that USA actually pays for).
Sure, USA has a contract with the Salvadorans to provide food and shelter to this man and all the other prisoners there, but USA is just too weak to seek a modification to the contract so USA can tell El Salvador that they need to release a prisoner when USA requests it.
The agreement is to keep the for one year or until the US government tells El Salvador what to do with them. This will become more clear in the coming days as Judge Xinis has granted the plaintiffs expedited discovery in this matter. Plaintiffs requests for documents and people to be deposed are due tomorrow. She is not screwing around with this and is letting the plaintiffs build an unassailable record. Yes, the administration will appeal but the appellate court and the Supreme Court will take a very dim view of stonewalling at this point.
Who else hears the hoofbeats of sanctions and findings of contempt?
Anonymous
04/15/2025 17:55
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Ftr, Judge Xinis is moving past returning him, since the government is signalling that they won't, and is moving straight on to contempt. Fourteen days (including weekends and holidays) of depositions and evidentiary hearings.
And a finding of contempt.
And a finding of contempt.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 17:55
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 17:54
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
Exactly. Why don't people see this?
Poor, pathetic USA.
It's just too scary for USA to ask the big, bad, all powerful Salvadorans to release someone from the prison (that USA actually pays for).
Sure, USA has a contract with the Salvadorans to provide food and shelter to this man and all the other prisoners there, but USA is just too weak to seek a modification to the contract so USA can tell El Salvador that they need to release a prisoner when USA requests it.
Especially when they have officially admitted sending him to that prison in El Salvador by mistake...
Anonymous
04/15/2025 17:54
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What you want to happen is for an immigration judge to change his status, to revoke his withholding of removal due to changed country conditions. Or maybe to retroactively find him uncredible.
Either of those things, which are things that we never actually do, would happen here, in the United States. Bring him here and make those things happen. Don't send him to a foreign prison for the crime of ... not applying for asylum in a timely fashion.
He should have been deported in 2019, but the prior administration didn't have its act together and let him slip through. This gave false hope to him and the horde of undocumented migrants crashing through the border.
Exactly.
Did you realize who was president in 2019 when you wrote that he “should have been deported in 2019 but the prior administration didn’t have its act together and let him slip through the cracks”?
No these folks don’t realize anything.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 17:52
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.
Exactly. Why don't people see this?
Poor, pathetic USA.
It's just too scary for USA to ask the big, bad, all powerful Salvadorans to release someone from the prison (that USA actually pays for).
Sure, USA has a contract with the Salvadorans to provide food and shelter to this man and all the other prisoners there, but USA is just too weak to seek a modification to the contract so USA can tell El Salvador that they need to release a prisoner when USA requests it.