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Anonymous wrote:OP - I am in exactly the same boat you are in. On the smallest dose, I can’t imagine that the most harmful side effects even happen. And my doc is telling me that they are finding these meds to be beneficial in other ways, for example to help with autoimmune diseases.

My prescriber is a small woman, she has no weight to lose or worry about maintaining, and she takes a GLP-1 once a month because she believes in the studies showing the long-term benefits in staving off dementia.

Wow, the world really has gone nuts hasn’t it. Hint: there are no studies that show normal weight people who take a GLP1 once a month stave off dementia.

Honest question not mean to be snarky, why are you so anti GLP-1s? What's your personal beef with it?

What’s my personal beef with people with eating disorders using fake health claims to justify what they do? Is that really the question?

By the way, I am far from the only one commenting strongly on this topic.

Yes, that's exactly the question. I could see you feeling sorry for people you think have eating disorders using this method to lose more weight. Or perhaps being worried for them. But instead you seem personally angry at them. You're acting like the choice to take a GLP-1 when not obese is a personal affront to you. Is there a reason?

NP. I see it as them leaning into their eating disorder, not trying to fight against.

Different NP here. It’s also just participating in all the old crap where only thin women have value - not even normal weight, but thin. It’s to separate and be better-than, like the woman upthread who would literally choose death over “fat,” whatever her definition of fat is. There is something vicious and cruel towards all women, especially heavier other women, when you eagerly participate in this out of economic advantage. It always has knock-on effects. The attitude always contaminates, beginning with what you model for your kids, how your social treatment influences in turn how you treat others. It radiates and ripples out from each of us and it’s simply a lie to say it doesn’t.

I used to love watching figure skating and I remember well how Midori Ito, one of the best ever women, made it to the Olympics, described how awful it was to have a perfectly normal athletic body to power her in the sport she loved described as fat and ugly. It wasn’t! But reality doesn’t matter much when everyone seemingly decides fo deride, nastily and viciously, every fckin body type besides extremely thin frames on women from puberty to grave.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - I am in exactly the same boat you are in. On the smallest dose, I can’t imagine that the most harmful side effects even happen. And my doc is telling me that they are finding these meds to be beneficial in other ways, for example to help with autoimmune diseases.

My prescriber is a small woman, she has no weight to lose or worry about maintaining, and she takes a GLP-1 once a month because she believes in the studies showing the long-term benefits in staving off dementia.

Wow, the world really has gone nuts hasn’t it. Hint: there are no studies that show normal weight people who take a GLP1 once a month stave off dementia.

Honest question not mean to be snarky, why are you so anti GLP-1s? What's your personal beef with it?

What’s my personal beef with people with eating disorders using fake health claims to justify what they do? Is that really the question?

By the way, I am far from the only one commenting strongly on this topic.

Yes, that's exactly the question. I could see you feeling sorry for people you think have eating disorders using this method to lose more weight. Or perhaps being worried for them. But instead you seem personally angry at them. You're acting like the choice to take a GLP-1 when not obese is a personal affront to you. Is there a reason?

NP. I see it as them leaning into their eating disorder, not trying to fight against.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - I am in exactly the same boat you are in. On the smallest dose, I can’t imagine that the most harmful side effects even happen. And my doc is telling me that they are finding these meds to be beneficial in other ways, for example to help with autoimmune diseases.

My prescriber is a small woman, she has no weight to lose or worry about maintaining, and she takes a GLP-1 once a month because she believes in the studies showing the long-term benefits in staving off dementia.

Wow, the world really has gone nuts hasn’t it. Hint: there are no studies that show normal weight people who take a GLP1 once a month stave off dementia.

Honest question not mean to be snarky, why are you so anti GLP-1s? What's your personal beef with it?

What’s my personal beef with people with eating disorders using fake health claims to justify what they do? Is that really the question?

By the way, I am far from the only one commenting strongly on this topic.

Yes, that's exactly the question. I could see you feeling sorry for people you think have eating disorders using this method to lose more weight. Or perhaps being worried for them. But instead you seem personally angry at them. You're acting like the choice to take a GLP-1 when not obese is a personal affront to you. Is there a reason?

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Anonymous wrote:OP - I am in exactly the same boat you are in. On the smallest dose, I can’t imagine that the most harmful side effects even happen. And my doc is telling me that they are finding these meds to be beneficial in other ways, for example to help with autoimmune diseases.

My prescriber is a small woman, she has no weight to lose or worry about maintaining, and she takes a GLP-1 once a month because she believes in the studies showing the long-term benefits in staving off dementia.

Wow, the world really has gone nuts hasn’t it. Hint: there are no studies that show normal weight people who take a GLP1 once a month stave off dementia.

Honest question not mean to be snarky, why are you so anti GLP-1s? What's your personal beef with it?

What’s my personal beef with people with eating disorders using fake health claims to justify what they do? Is that really the question?

By the way, I am far from the only one commenting strongly on this topic.

Yes, that's exactly the question. I could see you feeling sorry for people you think have eating disorders using this method to lose more weight. Or perhaps being worried for them. But instead you seem personally angry at them. You're acting like the choice to take a GLP-1 when not obese is a personal affront to you. Is there a reason?

Not pp. But it contributes to a highly misogynistic culture that feeds an epidemic of disordered eating. Teenage girls die of heart attacks thanks to this.

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Anonymous wrote:It is surprising how angry people get about weight loss drugs. They think it’s cheating and why don’t we just reduce calories and go for a run like they do? My doctor told me that people in their fifties can lose 10-15 pounds that way, but it’s much rarer for people to lose 30-40 pounds that way… which is what I’d like to do. I’m only 10-12 pounds overweight, but for most of my adult life I was 30 pounds lighter. I am like the PP who said I know how to keep it off once it’s off! So I am treating the (idea of) the meds as a jumpstart. With covid and menopause and laziness, I am 30-40 pounds heavier than I would like. I am interested in these drugs to help me get back there.

You need to research how these drugs work. They change your appetite hormones - you will not necessarily “know how to keep it off” after you stop them because you may feel much hungrier and your metabolism may have completely changed. Not to mention the increased risk of osteoporosis and loss of muscle. For women in their 50s+, a BMI of 26 is actually the healthiest. No competent doctor would recommend d that a slightly overweight woman in her 50s-60s take Wegovy.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm three weeks in and have lost an average of 2 pounds a week. My side effects have been some acid reflux and some constipation. I haven't been hungry, so hitting fiber and water targets is harder. Overall, I feel great. The side effects are manageable, and I'm realizing how loud the food noise in my head has been since I was a pre-teen. I feel sad that I have wasted so much time thinking about food, feeling guilty for eating, focused on working off the bad choices, and just feeling awful about myself. I've been between a size 2 and size 10 in my adult body, and this has been constant.

Man, this resonated with me. Me too, girl, me too. Loud food noise since about age 13, berating myself for what I ate all the time, trying to starve myself, thinking about working off all the food through exercise all the time. I've always been slim, but it was a constant battle. And I, too, am sad about a lifetime spent thinking about food, feeling guilty for eating, focused on working off food and FEELING AWFUL ABOUT MYSELF. Ugh! I started Zepbound 12 weeks ago. I have lost 16 pounds and I feel and look fantastic, but even more wonderful is the fact that I'm not so obsessed with food, what am I going to eat, how much am I going to eat, how long can I delay the next time I eat, are there going to be temptations the next gathering I go to that I'm going to have to fight off or fall victim to, did I ruin my day by starting it with a donut and now I'll just binge all day.

I haven't done those exhausting, unhealthy things in 3 months and I feel peaceful and content.

I’m one of the posters who asked questions as to how Glp-1s work, and I’m still confused. Are you saying now that you are on it, you can eat the donut and not gain? How are you keeping your intake to a level that makes you lose weight, without tracking it? I am “only” less than 10 lbs over my goal weight, but it’s all crept on it past year and a half. I eat and exercise exactly the same as I always did, so I assume it’s a slowed metabolism from menopause/aging. I feel like I already eat a healthy, portion controlled diet.

I’m a different poster but I’ll eat half or even a full donut and be fully satisfied and walk away with no constant want to come back and have another little piece or whatever until they are gone. It didn’t take away the enjoyment of food but I have a few bites and I’m good. So while I may eat the donut, it makes it easy to stick to the serving size. Overall I just eat less.

Thanks, and makes sense. This is why I can’t tell if Glp-1s will work for me. I already can ignore the donut (not saying I never indulge, but I’m not someone who regularly eats sweets or fries or other junk, and if I did it would be, as you say, a few bites here or there). Unfortunately, I’m still 15 lbs over my goal weight.

If you take GLP-1s to lose 15lbs there’s a strong chance you will end up even more over your “goal weight.” Many people report their appetites come back intensified when the come off the meds. You may have bad side effects so you can’t stay on them - or do you really intend to be on such an expensive med your whole life?

I may in fact stay on forever. They've improved my life so much. I started out not technically overweight (BMI 22.8) and now at 20. But even more than fitting into skinny jeans again, it's just cleared my mind, removed my food obsession, and removed my constant hunger and cravings that really were a big, uncomfortable part of my life. I will never be overweight. It's terrible to say, but if it weren't for my kids, I might rather die than be overweight. I am super fat phobic. So I have tortured myself my entire teenage and adult life in the pursuit of being thin. I'm not naturally thin, but I have always been on the slim side, by fighting for it. I am so relieved that on these meds, I don't have to fight anymore.

Cost is no issue for me.

You sound utterly disordered.

Yes, I have had a horrible relationship with food all my life. But on these meds, I feel peaceful about my eating for the first time since I was a child. I am so happy to be free of the obsession, hunger, self hating. These meds allow me to just eat small heathy meals and feel satisfied. I no longer think as much about food, about when I’ll eat next, about how long I can hold off until my next meal, about how much I want chocolate or French fries. I still enjoy eating, but I’ve lost my intense focus on it, and that is liberating.

I have stayed on the lowest dose and 12 weeks in, my weight loss has slowed to about .5 lbs per week. Unless I stop losing altogether, I know I’ll need to decrease my dose. I went on these meds intending to drop 15 lbs and then stop. But I feel so good on them, I may stay on them in some form for the long term.

Anonymous wrote:It is surprising how angry people get about weight loss drugs. They think it’s cheating and why don’t we just reduce calories and go for a run like they do? My doctor told me that people in their fifties can lose 10-15 pounds that way, but it’s much rarer for people to lose 30-40 pounds that way… which is what I’d like to do. I’m only 10-12 pounds overweight, but for most of my adult life I was 30 pounds lighter. I am like the PP who said I know how to keep it off once it’s off! So I am treating the (idea of) the meds as a jumpstart. With covid and menopause and laziness, I am 30-40 pounds heavier than I would like. I am interested in these drugs to help me get back there.

Anonymous wrote:But why does that make you ANGRY that I could take meds to lose a significant amount of weight if I want?

Anonymous wrote:But why does that make you ANGRY that I could take meds to lose a significant amount of weight if I want?

Anonymous wrote:It is surprising how angry people get about weight loss drugs. They think it’s cheating and why don’t we just reduce calories and go for a run like they do? My doctor told me that people in their fifties can lose 10-15 pounds that way, but it’s much rarer for people to lose 30-40 pounds that way… which is what I’d like to do. I’m only 10-12 pounds overweight, but for most of my adult life I was 30 pounds lighter. I am like the PP who said I know how to keep it off once it’s off! So I am treating the (idea of) the meds as a jumpstart. With covid and menopause and laziness, I am 30-40 pounds heavier than I would like. I am interested in these drugs to help me get back there.

Anonymous wrote:In the latest study published on MedRxiv—a site that hosts early research not yet peer reviewed by experts—scientists in Canada report that using GLP-1 drugs can contribute to a higher risk of hair loss, especially among women

https://time.com/7268254/wegovy-weight-loss-drug-hair-loss/

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Anonymous wrote:OP - I am in exactly the same boat you are in. On the smallest dose, I can’t imagine that the most harmful side effects even happen. And my doc is telling me that they are finding these meds to be beneficial in other ways, for example to help with autoimmune diseases.

My prescriber is a small woman, she has no weight to lose or worry about maintaining, and she takes a GLP-1 once a month because she believes in the studies showing the long-term benefits in staving off dementia.

Wow, the world really has gone nuts hasn’t it. Hint: there are no studies that show normal weight people who take a GLP1 once a month stave off dementia.

Honest question not mean to be snarky, why are you so anti GLP-1s? What's your personal beef with it?

What’s my personal beef with people with eating disorders using fake health claims to justify what they do? Is that really the question?

By the way, I am far from the only one commenting strongly on this topic.

Yes, that's exactly the question. I could see you feeling sorry for people you think have eating disorders using this method to lose more weight. Or perhaps being worried for them. But instead you seem personally angry at them. You're acting like the choice to take a GLP-1 when not obese is a personal affront to you. Is there a reason?

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Anonymous wrote:OP - I am in exactly the same boat you are in. On the smallest dose, I can’t imagine that the most harmful side effects even happen. And my doc is telling me that they are finding these meds to be beneficial in other ways, for example to help with autoimmune diseases.

Thanks, OP. I had mild nausea the first few days but since then, no side effects. No constipation, nothing. I, too, have read about additional benefits of these meds, including reduced inflammation and depression relief. I do think these meds bring out a lot of feelings in women, maybe especially in those who take care of themselves and are slim. Because these meds are helping others achieve the same, and that in turn makes being slim, fit and healthy more common. Right now, being slim and healthy means you're in the minority of people, it gives you so many advantages in life. People treat you better and life in general is happier. If being slim becomes more of the norm instead of the exception, the special privileges that come with it might wane. I think that pisses skinny women off. Look how people who don't take and aren't considering taking GLP-1s come, without fail, into these threads to say the most awful things. Wishing death, wishing ER visits and impacted colons. And we're just here sharing information and experiences. As I said, this is the meanest board on DCUM. The topic of weight is a touchy one for many women, clearly.

I treat everyone with respect, fat and thin. When I said I'm fat phobic, I meant that I have always severely berated myself, felt disgusted at my reflection, really just felt embarrassed to be me when I weigh more than I want to. I acknowledge that this is disordered thinking. I have struggled with it for most of my life, and I think many women share this struggle. This med has been miraculous for me because it's allowed me to control my eating without effort, without an internal fight all the time. I no longer feel passionate about food and eating. I still enjoy it, but it's not my focus. I eat for nutrition on this med, instead of giving into cravings, binging, restricting. I really don't ever want to return to the way I was living before, which was in an exhausting cycle of binging, restricting, and general self-disgust for not being able to control myself. Everything in my life feels better after 3 months on a GLP-1. I'm at my ideal weight, my skin is radiant, I'm sleeping better, I'm in a happier mood, I'm more focused. It has been an all-around wonderful experience for me and I am grateful.

is your idea weight underweight? And what will you do when the meds stop working and your appetite comes back but much stronger? And when you get osteoporosis due to muscle loss?

I'd say my ideal weight is 127 at 5'7 which is BMI of just under 20. Not underweight. I hope that if I taper down the dose and hunger returns, I'll feel motivated by how good I feel/look and that will help me maintain my healthier habits. Remember, I have never been overweight and at many times in my life I've been this slim without meds. I know what I need to do. I was just in a bad cycle of not being able to control my eating. I don't think I've lost muscle. When I started the meds, the spa counseled me about eating protein and strength training. I've upped my attendance at the gym from 3/week to 6 classes per week of strength because I didn't want to lose muscle.

That said, I am definitely scared to stop the meds. I love how I feel on them. I feel peaceful, relaxed, and in control. I'm afraid if I stop, I'll be back to feeling like I'm fighting a daily battle. And that's why I may take them forever.

A slim person taking GLPs to be at a BMI below 20. Absolutely disgusting. You feel shame for promoting disordered eating to the world.

Man you have a vendetta! You don't need to be the gatekeeper. There is no shortage of these drugs. Make the decision that is right for YOU and stay in your lane. This country has a huge obesity epidemic.