Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

But then again we pardoned all the Jan 6 trespassers and vandals, so there is that. I'm of the mind that all of the above should be arrested and charged.

Free speech and freedom of assembly does not extend to violence, trespassing and vandalism. It is the basic "harm principle." Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.

ICE is not the one to come and arrest the Jan 6 people. Should have been the FBI. But of course the FBI has more rules about how prisoners are treated compared to free for all ICE.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

But then again we pardoned all the Jan 6 trespassers and vandals, so there is that. I'm of the mind that all of the above should be arrested and charged.

Free speech and freedom of assembly does not extend to violence, trespassing and vandalism. It is the basic "harm principle." Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.

so this guy swung at your nose?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

So the federal immigration authority just deports/arrests people without due process? Wtaf?

Sigh. No. I can't tell if your reading comprehension is this bad or you are being deliberately obtuse. We are simply saying had Columbia not put up with it in the first place, we likely wouldn't be here. We are not saying what is happening right now is legal.

No you are the one with comprehension issues

PP's point is the one that is important to me a non college going person. I can appreciate that you MAGA are going to be anti Columbia

They were respecting the free speech of their students for awhile. The encampment went up on April 17. On April 18, the Univ President called in the NYPD.
So exactly how did they not respond?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Blah blah

He has been charged with anything

Hasn't

I know. That's the problem. Columbia let all of this illegal behavior go back when it was happening.

I agree that it appears he is being unlawfully detained at the moment. Does not mean he didn't commit crimes back then. He just wasn't charged with them. I can believe that he needs to leave the US and also believe is not being treated properly at the moment. Both things can be true.

How can you believe this?

He hasn't received due process. He's innocent until proven guilty. That is the government's burden. A once great country believed this.

OJ was aquitted. We all still know he murdered his wife.

I don't know anything oldster.

Sounds like you obsessed about something that is not political.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

So the federal immigration authority just deports/arrests people without due process? Wtaf?

Apparently? And it seems at the time, the school did react to violence. An encampment and leading a group is neither violence or assault.
I would like to reitierate that very few of the posters on this board actually care about Jewish people; they simply hate Muslims more.
The continued ranting that simply protesting the war means you are automatically a Hamas lover and a terrorist is so super gross.
Many Israelis and international Jewish people who protest the war would like a word about being Jew hating Hamas loving supporters.
The administration has gone too far.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

So the federal immigration authority just deports/arrests people without due process? Wtaf?

Sigh. No. I can't tell if your reading comprehension is this bad or you are being deliberately obtuse. We are simply saying had Columbia not put up with it in the first place, we likely wouldn't be here. We are not saying what is happening right now is legal.

No you are the one with comprehension issues

PP's point is the one that is important to me a non college going person. I can appreciate that you MAGA are going to be anti Columbia

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

So the federal immigration authority just deports/arrests people without due process? Wtaf?

Sigh. No. I can't tell if your reading comprehension is this bad or you are being deliberately obtuse. We are simply saying had Columbia not put up with it in the first place, we likely wouldn't be here. We are not saying what is happening right now is legal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

But then again we pardoned all the Jan 6 trespassers and vandals, so there is that. I'm of the mind that all of the above should be arrested and charged.

Free speech and freedom of assembly does not extend to violence, trespassing and vandalism. It is the basic "harm principle." Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

So the federal immigration authority just deports/arrests people without due process? Wtaf?

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Part of this definitely falls on Columbia. They should have cracked down harder when this was all going on. They chose not to.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Had Columbia simply arrested people trespassing on private property, committing vandalism, etc. it probably wouldn't have come to this.

The First Amendment does not permit you to trespass or vandalize.

Blah blah

He has been charged with anything

Hasn't

I know. That's the problem. Columbia let all of this illegal behavior go back when it was happening.

I agree that it appears he is being unlawfully detained at the moment. Does not mean he didn't commit crimes back then. He just wasn't charged with them. I can believe that he needs to leave the US and also believe is not being treated properly at the moment. Both things can be true.

How can you believe this?

He hasn't received due process. He's innocent until proven guilty. That is the government's burden. A once great country believed this.

OJ was aquitted. We all still know he murdered his wife.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not have an issue with this guy being deported. He was a hamas supporter here on a student visa and green card.

Not sure what value a visitor who supports terrorism adds to our country.

He will go before an immigration judge and be deported to his home country. Not going to Guantanamo or anything.

Visitor? Do you know what "green card" means? LPR? Lawful permanent resident?

Yeah - you are not a US citizen so you are visiting and be removed.

Green card holders who engage in activities deemed threatening to U.S. national security can lose their status. This includes involvement in terrorism, espionage, or other activities that undermine the safety of the United States.

Examples of Security Violations

Membership in Terrorist Organizations: Being part of or assisting a terrorist group can lead to immediate revocation and deportation.
Espionage or Treason: Activities related to spying, intelligence gathering for foreign governments, or attempts to overthrow the government are considered severe violations.
Consequences: In addition to deportation, individuals accused of such activities may face criminal prosecution and significant legal penalties.

Seems like this guy checks that box and gets booted.

No big deal.

You don't sound like a legal genius. Your just parroting whst you heard

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


When will this be enough?

At this point, I'm beginning to think that if a GOP member of Congress was hauled away in handcuffs off the Senate or House floor, his/her colleagues would just sit there stone-faced.

Yes

Yes this would happen. After all most of them are just bureaucrats and paper pushers promised a cushy job. And few allowed in for ratings.

Anonymous wrote:


When will this be enough?

At this point, I'm beginning to think that if a GOP member of Congress was hauled away in handcuffs off the Senate or House floor, his/her colleagues would just sit there stone-faced.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not have an issue with this guy being deported. He was a hamas supporter here on a student visa and green card.

Not sure what value a visitor who supports terrorism adds to our country.

He will go before an immigration judge and be deported to his home country. Not going to Guantanamo or anything.

Visitor? Do you know what "green card" means? LPR? Lawful permanent resident?

Yeah - you are not a US citizen so you are visiting and be removed.

Green card holders who engage in activities deemed threatening to U.S. national security can lose their status. This includes involvement in terrorism, espionage, or other activities that undermine the safety of the United States.

Examples of Security Violations

Membership in Terrorist Organizations: Being part of or assisting a terrorist group can lead to immediate revocation and deportation.
Espionage or Treason: Activities related to spying, intelligence gathering for foreign governments, or attempts to overthrow the government are considered severe violations.
Consequences: In addition to deportation, individuals accused of such activities may face criminal prosecution and significant legal penalties.

Seems like this guy checks that box and gets booted.

No big deal.