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Anonymous wrote:In my view, the real issue is not regarding the "buyout" offer, but is whether or not current federal government employees should be sending out resumes & job applications to private sector employers while waiting for things to play out.

Why shouldn’t they?

DP, but if I want to stay in my current job, you have to weigh jumping early to a suboptimal role out of fear, versus out of necessity (when your job is actually being eliminated)

I get it. I’m in the same boat as a fed contractor.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, the real issue is not regarding the "buyout" offer, but is whether or not current federal government employees should be sending out resumes & job applications to private sector employers while waiting for things to play out.

Why shouldn’t they?

DP, but if I want to stay in my current job, you have to weigh jumping early to a suboptimal role out of fear, versus out of necessity (when your job is actually being eliminated)

Anonymous wrote:In my view, the real issue is not regarding the "buyout" offer, but is whether or not current federal government employees should be sending out resumes & job applications to private sector employers while waiting for things to play out.

Why shouldn’t they?

In my view, the real issue is not regarding the "buyout" offer, but is whether or not current federal government employees should be sending out resumes & job applications to private sector employers while waiting for things to play out.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think any position is safe. We're not dealing with people sincerely interested in improving government ops or efficiency. They want to burn it down.

They want to send the contracts to their friends and family. Remember that contractors cost the gov a lot more than feds. This isn’t a cost savings measure.

Contractors do not cost a lot more. The fully burdened cost is similar but there more flexibility on how to use or remove a contractor. And the gov can enforce performance better.

If you think it's easier to enforce performance, you've never dealt with a government contract.

Well that's your experience. My experience is that I had an underperforming contractor and he really let things fall, didn't respond. We spoke to his management, detailed the issues and asked for him to be removed from the contract. They did more than that- they walked him out that day and fired him. Yikes.

As a fed manager I've had bad employees that skid by for decades by doing the bare minimum. When they go on PIPs, they raise their performance slightly. Then revert to status quo after. It's so frustrating.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

Such calmness about it all....sounds suspiciously like a DOGE-spy troll on here. "He is going to have to follow the process?" He hasn't so far, but you claim that with all seriousness and genuine trust??!! hmmm.

Quite the opposite. DOGE wants people to freak out and quit. Taking a deep breath and letting this play out, including through lawsuits, is exactly what DOGE does NOT want civil servants to do.

Yes, they want them to quit. But they want them to take their dubious offer - so they publish FAQs to reassure employees it's for real. They also want to be able to tell their supporters how tough they were and how many people they eliminated, how they reduced government by unprecedented and unimaginable proportions.

Agree on all that. Which is why feds should respond by taking a deep breath and letting it play out, not freaking out and taking the super sketchy DOGE offer or quitting. I find it humous that PP accused me of being a DOGE Spy becuase I said people should take a deep breath and not freak out. Freaking out is exactly what DOGE wants people to do.

This Ezra Klein piece has been making to rounds and is relevant to the discussion -
don't believe them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8QLgLfqh6s

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Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

Such calmness about it all....sounds suspiciously like a DOGE-spy troll on here. "He is going to have to follow the process?" He hasn't so far, but you claim that with all seriousness and genuine trust??!! hmmm.

Quite the opposite. DOGE wants people to freak out and quit. Taking a deep breath and letting this play out, including through lawsuits, is exactly what DOGE does NOT want civil servants to do.

Yes, they want them to quit. But they want them to take their dubious offer - so they publish FAQs to reassure employees it's for real. They also want to be able to tell their supporters how tough they were and how many people they eliminated, how they reduced government by unprecedented and unimaginable proportions.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

Such calmness about it all....sounds suspiciously like a DOGE-spy troll on here. "He is going to have to follow the process?" He hasn't so far, but you claim that with all seriousness and genuine trust??!! hmmm.

Quite the opposite. DOGE wants people to freak out and quit. Taking a deep breath and letting this play out, including through lawsuits, is exactly what DOGE does NOT want civil servants to do.

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Anonymous wrote:(Not my job) Federal oil and gas drilling

The job cuts that really made my heart hurt- NPS seasonal jobs. I heard they aren’t filling 6k positions. Most of the big national parks only have a skeleton permanent staff through the winter snows. The seasonal workers are the ones who clean the toilets and trash, tour guides and work on the trails. I can’t imagine what Yellowstone will be once the people who have had reservations for years show up this summer.

That's mind-boggling to me. Republicans go camping too.

Anything constituents feel directly impacted and complain enough about gets retracted. It's part of this administration's "throw the pan of spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks" approach to "governance."

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Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

Such calmness about it all....sounds suspiciously like a DOGE-spy troll on here. "He is going to have to follow the process?" He hasn't so far, but you claim that with all seriousness and genuine trust??!! hmmm.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't heard a lot about DoD.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/07/trump-musk-pentagon-education-014337

I am really interested in seeing the showdown between DOGE and DOD. Talk about being in the FO part of FAFO...

It would be a far more interesting showdown if there were a qualified person leading DoD.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel reasonably safe as a criminal AUSA. We perform a core constitutional function and there’s really no fat to cut. Every attorney in my office works 60 hours a week, save for a handful of people in highly niche roles.

I wish you well, but what you describe (core function, no fat) isn't unique. It just comes down to whether Trump or Musk see you as an enemy. I would have thought everybody in DOJ saw that up close.

Some people just refuse to see certain things.
"It's them. It doesn't affect us. It won't affect us." "That's absurd - of course that's not what they're doing." 1930's Germany. Sinclair Lewis: "It Can't Happen Here."

Anonymous wrote:As someone with knowledge of what a contractor cost in my office, we pay the company a GS 12-6 ($118,304) salary for an executive assistant. They in turn pay the EA ($87k).

Let me add this is an EA for an SES employee.

As someone with knowledge of what a contractor cost in my office, we pay the company a GS 12-6 ($118,304) salary for an executive assistant. They in turn pay the EA ($87k).

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think any position is safe. We're not dealing with people sincerely interested in improving government ops or efficiency. They want to burn it down.

They want to send the contracts to their friends and family. Remember that contractors cost the gov a lot more than feds. This isn’t a cost savings measure.

Contractors do not cost a lot more. The fully burdened cost is similar but there more flexibility on how to use or remove a contractor. And the gov can enforce performance better.

If you think it's easier to enforce performance, you've never dealt with a government contract.

Our contracts are written to allow government to stop work on any contract employee with 48 hour notice. That is pretty flexible. In practice, the stop work happens instantly. The 48 hours is to allow contractor to notify their employee during the weekend if there were a late Friday afternoon notice from the government.

Maybe your agency needs to get better people writing their contracts?