Anonymous
02/08/2025 14:38
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote: Isn’t NSF similar? This is like designing a key word search that uses the word “and”.
No, it's not.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 14:36
Subject: Re:Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:My prediction is they will not grant funding to institutions that have policies they don’t like.
Such as:
🏳️🌈 and so on
That's the category of lies that got them elected. Now they will do what they really intended. People were dumb and fell for this.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 14:31
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So can someone please explain the IMPACT this will have on T-100 colleges and universities in the short-term (2025-2030)?
Assuming a sharp and massive decrease in federal funding per Musk/Project 2025:
- What will change on the ground at these schools in the next year, in the next five years? How exactly will it affect applicants and undergraduate students?
- Which schools (or types of schools) are likely to be the relative “winners,” and who are likely to be the relative “losers”?
(Assume I have no personal experience with either federally-funded research or college/university budgets. Because I don’t. 😂 But I do have kids applying to college in 2026 and 2029 and am having trouble getting my head around the short-term implications for them.
Thanks!
I’m a big proponent of flagship state universities, but I think LACs with large endowments are best able to weather this. It will impact faculty ranks as a lot of T1 professors are partially funded by grants and affect PHD programs as there’s less funding for research. Yes, the OP is right that fundamental science has better prospects, but a lot of it still touches things his admin doesn’t believe in.
Agree. Public schools sand R1 Universities will be the hardest hit. There are so few tenured professors as it is, and without federal funding a lot of them are going to be scrambling.
The Publics should fare better than the privates because the members of the house don't want to face their voters. In this instance they have better advocacy. Ironically Publics in mostly blue states will likely get hurt worse less than those in red states because they have vulnerable representatives. With the tiny hose majority at risk republicans reps from CA, NY, PA, VA, etc. can dictate the shape of anything going through congress. Contrary to what he believes, Elon does not control spending. The representatives in NY and NJ whose jobs are on the line if there are big cuts at Stony Brook and Rutgers control the spending in this case.
They are ignoring your representatives entirely. Not even letting them in buildings.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 14:28
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are we giving up and accepting all the havoc Trump & co. are wrecking on our country?
Call your Senators ASAP to complain about what Trump is doing to grants, funding for education. Leave a message to let them know they will not have your vote if they go along with Trump's actions or do nothing to block him. This is especially relevant for Republican senators in your state, but ask your Dem senators to fight for our kids' futures too.
Senate numbers to call:
https://www.senate.gov/general/resources/pdf/senators_phone_list.pdf
Same for your Rep in the House:
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Finally, the Republican Senators and Congress are following Trump's lead because they are scared they'll not be re-elected if they don't. Let them know in no uncertain terms that they will lose your vote if they don't block Trump on these key, detrimental measures. Deluge them with messages everyday!
We can spend hours on this DCUM College thread and years prepping to launch our kids into college, but none of those efforts will matter if we don't fight now to make the Congress hold him accountable as well as vote to block Trump's roll in the mid-terms.
There are so many parents from all kinds of states on DCUM, caring about our kids' futures is something we all have in common. Let's not give up and reduce our dreams for our kids or try to force them into fields that won't be destroyed by Trump. Let's get rid of Trump's horrible policies by contacting our Reps and then vote him and the congress people who agree with him OUT.
I've noticed regular posters on here from FL, mid-west, CA, OR, NY, PA along with VA/MD ... please let's flood our Senate & House Representatives with calls daily until they get the message we will not tolerate them messing with education, college, federal grants and funding. It doesn't matter what party we rep, this deserves some "all hands on deck" unity from all parents.
The college thread is a good thread to post in since it attracts parents all over the US, not just DMV ...
+1000. We need to organize, act and barrage our state reps with messages so that they hear that we don't want this and will punish them at the polls.
VA posters - Abigail Spanberger is running for Governor this year. Tuesday, November 4, 2025 is the election day! Make sure we vote her in.
NJ posters - Mikki Sherril is running for Gov in NJ this year in 2025 election. Same deal. Vote her in!
Keep laser focused on 2026 midterms. Leave messages for your state Reps now (Rep & Dem) but also fund Senate and House races in 2026 now. We need to stop Trump's roll.
(Also Dems need a fantastic candidate to run against Trump/Vance/etc. in 2028. That person will need to do a lot of clean-up if they do win - IF there are institutions left in place that allow them to get a fair election.)
Most importantly, this is about education on this thread and we need to not just acquiesce and accept Trump and Musk's BS. Not when it affects our kids!
Anonymous
02/08/2025 14:20
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People, Elon Musk just said today the Department of Education no longer exists. There are no more student loans now. Kids will now have to scramble to private banks charging 10% interes(absurd) or simply no longer go to college. Colleges are going to collapse due to a severe decline in the number of students that will implode tuition dollars. They're hammering colleges also by kneecapping the amount of overhead from grants.
I don't think you get it. The United States is over. Send you kids abroad for education, because they have successfully implemented an Idiocracy. Low education is the norm. Severely degraded quality in education in all US institutions will now be then norm.
The US is now a 3rd world dump of uneducated morons. But at least the US has a lot of guns, pickup trucks, and nukes. The US is no longer a first world country. Top education is now in Asia and Europe.
Just because Elon said it doesn't make it true. It is a congressionally authorized and funded agency. Unless Congress votes to defund it and delete it, it still exists. Let's let this play out.
Let's NOT wait to let it play out. Let's encourage our communities, friends, family in every state to CALL our reps to say we do not want them to vote to defund our dept of education and research grants or we will vote them OUT.
F--- Elon Musk. Nobody voted for him. He has no authority to declare a congressionally funded agency doesn't exist or do anything. He is a hypocrite as well. He illegally overstayed his student visa as a South African immigrant and is now playing out his emperor fantasies. Let's not allow him to do that to us at our own expense.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 14:20
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is such a disaster and and it doesn't help anyone. What is the best way to respond to try to preserve science research?
This is a mechanism to force universities to gut all the pointless soft social science and dubious "STEM" affiliated research looking at DEI metrics in whatever science field first. Universities will have to decide what to prioritize. I'm not too worried.
if that is the goal, this is really the stupidest way to do it. How about just not offer grants in those spaces in the next cycle and leave the rest of it alone?
No, the goal is to shut down universities, to bankrupt them and destroy their influence in society by providing true information. The woke is just a way to make this sound better to people. If they were after waste they would strategically not universally cut. They would offer options to renegotiate. They would apply this to social sciences funding which the NIH doesn’t even do.
Pp here. To clarify their intent is to destroy universities because the universities are purveyors of true, ie researched checked information and new knowledge, that is available to all.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 14:17
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is such a disaster and and it doesn't help anyone. What is the best way to respond to try to preserve science research?
This is a mechanism to force universities to gut all the pointless soft social science and dubious "STEM" affiliated research looking at DEI metrics in whatever science field first. Universities will have to decide what to prioritize. I'm not too worried.
if that is the goal, this is really the stupidest way to do it. How about just not offer grants in those spaces in the next cycle and leave the rest of it alone?
No, the goal is to shut down universities, to bankrupt them and destroy their influence in society by providing true information. The woke is just a way to make this sound better to people. If they were after waste they would strategically not universally cut. They would offer options to renegotiate. They would apply this to social sciences funding which the NIH doesn’t even do.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 14:15
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are we giving up and accepting all the havoc Trump & co. are wrecking on our country?
Call your Senators ASAP to complain about what Trump is doing to grants, funding for education. Leave a message to let them know they will not have your vote if they go along with Trump's actions or do nothing to block him. This is especially relevant for Republican senators in your state, but ask your Dem senators to fight for our kids' futures too.
Senate numbers to call:
https://www.senate.gov/general/resources/pdf/senators_phone_list.pdf
Same for your Rep in the House:
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Finally, the Republican Senators and Congress are following Trump's lead because they are scared they'll not be re-elected if they don't. Let them know in no uncertain terms that they will lose your vote if they don't block Trump on these key, detrimental measures. Deluge them with messages everyday!
We can spend hours on this DCUM College thread and years prepping to launch our kids into college, but none of those efforts will matter if we don't fight now to make the Congress hold him accountable as well as vote to block Trump's roll in the mid-terms.
There are so many parents from all kinds of states on DCUM, caring about our kids' futures is something we all have in common. Let's not give up and reduce our dreams for our kids or try to force them into fields that won't be destroyed by Trump. Let's get rid of Trump's horrible policies by contacting our Reps and then vote him and the congress people who agree with him OUT.
I've noticed regular posters on here from FL, mid-west, CA, OR, NY, PA along with VA/MD ... please let's flood our Senate & House Representatives with calls daily until they get the message we will not tolerate them messing with education, college, federal grants and funding. It doesn't matter what party we rep, this deserves some "all hands on deck" unity from all parents.
The college thread is a good thread to post in since it attracts parents all over the US, not just DMV ...
Anonymous wrote:
I've noticed regular posters on here from FL, mid-west, CA, OR, NY, PA along with VA/MD ... please let's flood our Senate & House Representatives with calls daily until they get the message we will not tolerate them messing with education, college, federal grants and funding. It doesn't matter what party we rep, this deserves some "all hands on deck" unity from all parents.
The college thread is a good thread to post in since it attracts parents all over the US, not just DMV ...
+1,000,000 this affects everyone no matter what party. This devalues your investment in college costs, your kid's opportunities and dangers our future healthcare system further.
100%. Let's fight like he-- and save our country, our investments, our children's future. This affects us all and doesn't matter your party affiliation. We need to make calls, organize and fight back now.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 13:59
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is such a disaster and and it doesn't help anyone. What is the best way to respond to try to preserve science research?
This is a mechanism to force universities to gut all the pointless soft social science and dubious "STEM" affiliated research looking at DEI metrics in whatever science field first. Universities will have to decide what to prioritize. I'm not too worried.
if that is the goal, this is really the stupidest way to do it. How about just not offer grants in those spaces in the next cycle and leave the rest of it alone?
Anonymous
02/08/2025 13:59
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:This is such a disaster and and it doesn't help anyone. What is the best way to respond to try to preserve science research?
Have red state constituents call their House and Senate reps to complain.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 13:56
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:People, Elon Musk just said today the Department of Education no longer exists. There are no more student loans now. Kids will now have to scramble to private banks charging 10% interes(absurd) or simply no longer go to college. Colleges are going to collapse due to a severe decline in the number of students that will implode tuition dollars. They're hammering colleges also by kneecapping the amount of overhead from grants.
I don't think you get it. The United States is over. Send you kids abroad for education, because they have successfully implemented an Idiocracy. Low education is the norm. Severely degraded quality in education in all US institutions will now be then norm.
The US is now a 3rd world dump of uneducated morons. But at least the US has a lot of guns, pickup trucks, and nukes. The US is no longer a first world country. Top education is now in Asia and Europe.
Just because Elon said it doesn't make it true. It is a congressionally authorized and funded agency. Unless Congress votes to defund it and delete it, it still exists. Let's let this play out.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 13:28
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are we giving up and accepting all the havoc Trump & co. are wrecking on our country?
Call your Senators ASAP to complain about what Trump is doing to grants, funding for education. Leave a message to let them know they will not have your vote if they go along with Trump's actions or do nothing to block him. This is especially relevant for Republican senators in your state, but ask your Dem senators to fight for our kids' futures too.
Senate numbers to call:
https://www.senate.gov/general/resources/pdf/senators_phone_list.pdf
Same for your Rep in the House:
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Finally, the Republican Senators and Congress are following Trump's lead because they are scared they'll not be re-elected if they don't. Let them know in no uncertain terms that they will lose your vote if they don't block Trump on these key, detrimental measures. Deluge them with messages everyday!
We can spend hours on this DCUM College thread and years prepping to launch our kids into college, but none of those efforts will matter if we don't fight now to make the Congress hold him accountable as well as vote to block Trump's roll in the mid-terms.
There are so many parents from all kinds of states on DCUM, caring about our kids' futures is something we all have in common. Let's not give up and reduce our dreams for our kids or try to force them into fields that won't be destroyed by Trump. Let's get rid of Trump's horrible policies by contacting our Reps and then vote him and the congress people who agree with him OUT.
I've noticed regular posters on here from FL, mid-west, CA, OR, NY, PA along with VA/MD ... please let's flood our Senate & House Representatives with calls daily until they get the message we will not tolerate them messing with education, college, federal grants and funding. It doesn't matter what party we rep, this deserves some "all hands on deck" unity from all parents.
The college thread is a good thread to post in since it attracts parents all over the US, not just DMV ...
+1,000,000 this affects everyone no matter what party. This devalues your investment in college costs, your kid's opportunities and dangers our future healthcare system further.
Anonymous
02/08/2025 13:20
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Why are we giving up and accepting all the havoc Trump & co. are wrecking on our country?
Call your Senators ASAP to complain about what Trump is doing to grants, funding for education. Leave a message to let them know they will not have your vote if they go along with Trump's actions or do nothing to block him. This is especially relevant for Republican senators in your state, but ask your Dem senators to fight for our kids' futures too.
Senate numbers to call:
https://www.senate.gov/general/resources/pdf/senators_phone_list.pdf
Same for your Rep in the House:
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Finally, the Republican Senators and Congress are following Trump's lead because they are scared they'll not be re-elected if they don't. Let them know in no uncertain terms that they will lose your vote if they don't block Trump on these key, detrimental measures. Deluge them with messages everyday!
We can spend hours on this DCUM College thread and years prepping to launch our kids into college, but none of those efforts will matter if we don't fight now to make the Congress hold him accountable as well as vote to block Trump's roll in the mid-terms.
There are so many parents from all kinds of states on DCUM, caring about our kids' futures is something we all have in common. Let's not give up and reduce our dreams for our kids or try to force them into fields that won't be destroyed by Trump. Let's get rid of Trump's horrible policies by contacting our Reps and then vote him and the congress people who agree with him OUT.
I've noticed regular posters on here from FL, mid-west, CA, OR, NY, PA along with VA/MD ... please let's flood our Senate & House Representatives with calls daily until they get the message we will not tolerate them messing with education, college, federal grants and funding. It doesn't matter what party we rep, this deserves some "all hands on deck" unity from all parents.
The college thread is a good thread to post in since it attracts parents all over the US, not just DMV ...
Anonymous
02/08/2025 13:07
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is such a disaster and and it doesn't help anyone. What is the best way to respond to try to preserve science research?
This is a mechanism to force universities to gut all the pointless soft social science and dubious "STEM" affiliated research looking at DEI metrics in whatever science field first. Universities will have to decide what to prioritize. I'm not too worried.
Nope, it also affects biology research and drug development. Because republicans are afflicted with conspiracy theories about Covid. And other cuts affects summer research internships for all students. All science students are affected - I have one in grad and one undergraduate and their futures are now drastically impacted by this political war (and, of course, so are all of us and our health).
Anonymous
02/08/2025 13:05
Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal funding accounts for 55% of university research expenditures. At John's Hopkins, it is 87%.
As of June 2024, Johns Hopkins University's (JHU) endowment was roughly $13.5 billion.
doesn't understand the difference between an endowment and annual operational funding. sad.
except endowments and deep pocket alums can bridge the gap. there are unconstrained funds in the endowment.
stop acting arrogant with stupidity. dunning kruger in full effect
You should really just stop because you are totally without a clue.
this you kamala?
What’s your solution for when universities have spent their entire endowments in a year or two, genius?