Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:41     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?


No. Go fishing somewhere else. You're in the wrong pond.


Okay. So why is this all so sensitive and secretive?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:38     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.


Not really. Many of USAID’s overseas foreign partners don’t want to be advertised in their home country as taking US money. It can be dangerous on the ground for them. USAID reps take confidential meetings with foreign government representatives; those discussions would be classified. China is always trying to undercut USAID or sabotage projects, so we need to work carefully and discreetly.

You get that foreign aid is a competition, right? We are competing with Russia and China to influence these foreign governments


Why is it a competition? So it is a foreign influence/opposition-in-other/countries funding mechanism? Are the American people really signing up for this?

Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:34     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?


No. Go fishing somewhere else. You're in the wrong pond.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:32     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.


Not really. Many of USAID’s overseas foreign partners don’t want to be advertised in their home country as taking US money. It can be dangerous on the ground for them. USAID reps take confidential meetings with foreign government representatives; those discussions would be classified. China is always trying to undercut USAID or sabotage projects, so we need to work carefully and discreetly.

You get that foreign aid is a competition, right? We are competing with Russia and China to influence these foreign governments
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:14     Subject: Closing USAID
If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:10     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Claiming he was trying to get access to classified information. What classified information does USAID have?


Elon's goons tried to enter a SKIF without the required level of clearance. The head of security intervened and stopped them, as required by law. The next day, the head of security (John Voorhees) was placed on leave.

I hope you're happy. You've handed over our country to an impulsive and delusional billionaire who was neither elected nor appointed to any post in the government. He's "modernizing" our payment infrastructure as we speak--and likely installing (intentionally or unintentionally) all kinds of backdoors and security vulnerabilities.
What is the secret information?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:10     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?


Obviously the accusations that it is a front for CIA is more valid than claimed in this thread.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:08     Subject: Closing USAID
From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:06     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Why exactly is USAID a flashpoint for Elon/so so sensitive that is has such high level information security?

I only found that Hungary hates Samantha Power and accused USAID of funding Hungarian opposition press.


There's this weird obsession in the tech world with saying that international aid is pointless. I once worked for an aid agency and people who worked in the Tech space would make a point of finding me and telling me that international development aid is pointless. It's such an arrogant, tone deaf thing to be stuck on. But it's a sector-wide obsession for some reason.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:03     Subject: Closing USAID
Why exactly is USAID a flashpoint for Elon/so so sensitive that is has such high level information security?

I only found that Hungary hates Samantha Power and accused USAID of funding Hungarian opposition press.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 22:59     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Claiming he was trying to get access to classified information. What classified information does USAID have?


Elon's goons tried to enter a SKIF without the required level of clearance. The head of security intervened and stopped them, as required by law. The next day, the head of security (John Voorhees) was placed on leave.

I hope you're happy. You've handed over our country to an impulsive and delusional billionaire who was neither elected nor appointed to any post in the government. He's "modernizing" our payment infrastructure as we speak--and likely installing (intentionally or unintentionally) all kinds of backdoors and security vulnerabilities.


A skiff is a small boat that is usually propelled by oars or sails. Skiffs are often used for fishing, leisure, and work.
Not sure why USAID would be using those and doubt anyone from DOGE was trying to board.

But maybe you meant Sensitive compartmented information facility.

It is possible USAID could have SECRET level information.
If USAID had Top Secret (grave danger) or god forbid SCI then something is seriously off course there. No reason they would have anything above secret- and not sure why they would have that other than for potentially working with DLA or military for something.


Or maybe, you know, autocorrect.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 22:51     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Claiming he was trying to get access to classified information. What classified information does USAID have?


Elon's goons tried to enter a SKIF without the required level of clearance. The head of security intervened and stopped them, as required by law. The next day, the head of security (John Voorhees) was placed on leave.

I hope you're happy. You've handed over our country to an impulsive and delusional billionaire who was neither elected nor appointed to any post in the government. He's "modernizing" our payment infrastructure as we speak--and likely installing (intentionally or unintentionally) all kinds of backdoors and security vulnerabilities.


A skiff is a small boat that is usually propelled by oars or sails. Skiffs are often used for fishing, leisure, and work.
Not sure why USAID would be using those and doubt anyone from DOGE was trying to board.

But maybe you meant Sensitive compartmented information facility.

It is possible USAID could have SECRET level information.
If USAID had Top Secret (grave danger) or god forbid SCI then something is seriously off course there. No reason they would have anything above secret- and not sure why they would have that other than for potentially working with DLA or military for something.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 22:34     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Claiming he was trying to get access to classified information. What classified information does USAID have?



None of your business.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 22:33     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
What kind of money are we talking, OP?

Which countries no longer have starving children as a result of all this funneled cash?





Wow. I often wonder how people could have voted for Trump. Then I read a response like this and see there really are awful, cold hearted people out there!


NP. Our own kids are hungry


You are not this dumb. Read between the lines. These agencies are US life lines into the world. That’s what musk doesn’t know which is crazy that he access to anything.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 22:32     Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Claiming he was trying to get access to classified information. What classified information does USAID have?


Elon's goons tried to enter a SKIF without the required level of clearance. The head of security intervened and stopped them, as required by law. The next day, the head of security (John Voorhees) was placed on leave.

I hope you're happy. You've handed over our country to an impulsive and delusional billionaire who was neither elected nor appointed to any post in the government. He's "modernizing" our payment infrastructure as we speak--and likely installing (intentionally or unintentionally) all kinds of backdoors and security vulnerabilities.


Let's not forget that he's a drug addict