Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 21:14     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone from a DHS agency heard anything yet?


My cousin returns to in person work tomorrow at DHS. 2 days a week with a 3rd day every other week due to office space limitations.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 20:30     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Anonymous wrote:FEMA doing away with regularly scheduled telework. Only situational telework is allowed or if you have a reasonable accommodation. I was told we're RTO mid Feb but it was a moving target. Expect messaging Monday.


I am allergic to cockroaches (not deathly though) and my fed office frequently gets them as visitors. I’m truly considering asking if that’s a reason for more frequent telework.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 20:14     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Buttt why
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 20:11     Subject: Re:DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Nothing still, pretty much…
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 12:33     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Anonymous wrote:FEMA doing away with regularly scheduled telework. Only situational telework is allowed or if you have a reasonable accommodation. I was told we're RTO mid Feb but it was a moving target. Expect messaging Monday.


Thanks for sharing, and I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Did you hear if BU employees are going to have the same rough RTO? Remote workers in February too?
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 08:50     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
FEMA doing away with regularly scheduled telework. Only situational telework is allowed or if you have a reasonable accommodation. I was told we're RTO mid Feb but it was a moving target. Expect messaging Monday.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 21:36     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
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Anonymous wrote:This is all bluster for headlines.


I don't think so. At this point if you wanted to actively harm the US, you wouldn't have done much differently.


The point is for you to quit. And eventually for DOGE designed AI to do your job.


People aren't going to quit. People will retire, but retirees cost the government 80 percent of what an employed fed costs so there is no gain.


They don’t care about saving money. Federal salaries and pensions are 3-4% of the budget. They want people to leave so they can say the government is broken and then swoop in to “fix it.” Just like venture capital has “fixed” everything else in the US to give crappy service and funnel money straight to the top. If they cared about saving money they would be doing many other actual useful actions. These people are not trying to help anyone but themselves.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 21:29     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
DH hasn't mentioned anything about FEMA yet, and I'm going crazy…
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 19:12     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is all bluster for headlines.


I don't think so. At this point if you wanted to actively harm the US, you wouldn't have done much differently.


The point is for you to quit. And eventually for DOGE designed AI to do your job.


People aren't going to quit. People will retire, but retirees cost the government 80 percent of what an employed fed costs so there is no gain.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 18:08     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Anonymous wrote:why do they keep inter changing remote and telework?? They're two very different things.


Because they are stupid and incompetent, obviously.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 18:04     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
USCIS intends to fully comply with the Presidential Memorandum and said to expect more information in the coming days.

Core telework (4 days/wk) has been the norm in my work unit since the late 90s.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 17:57     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Has anyone from a DHS agency heard anything yet?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 06:22     Subject: Re:DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
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Anonymous wrote:These headline grabbing articles are just that. There are exemptions for lack of physical space or employee’s inability to return. Let’s see how this plays out with actual DHS employees.


+1, the loopholes are actually huge.

They are using RTO as stealth layoffs, just like the private sector has the last few years. It's also a way to clear out older workers who probably should retire but have stuck around because their jobs are very easy for them at this stage and if they can do them at home with a flexible schedule, why not.

Managers are going to come back with exemptions for most of their other workers though. A lot of these jobs have no permanent offices to go back to. Some are highly skilled workers who are very hard to replace (and most replacements would also expect WFH allowances).

If you have an empty office somewhere that you never go to, are relatively easy to replace, and are a poor performer, you should either ready yourself to return to the office or look for another job.

I can't stand Trump but I support this specific policy. I've managed people a long time and there are lots of appropriate uses for RTO but there are also a lot of people who just abuse it to avoid working and you need mechanisms for rooting those people out.


I think agency heads are going to set policies for exemptions that will be too narrow for individual managers to circumvent. That's been my experience in my career to date.


This!
An administration that doesn’t believe in remote work and telework will make sure that many people don’t use exemptions to work around the EO.
They have a goal and will make sure they achieve.




True. The goal is to have people on the roads so that they buy gas and cars, then they spend 2-3 hrs in commute and are so tired that they end up eating out a lot, then when they are fat and unhealthy the pharmaceutical companies can make mind off of them.

This is no coincidence, billionaires want the plebes constantly working and tired, that’s how they make money. From fast foods to gas stations to big pharma to clothes retailers, we are supposed to enrich all of them off our backs. The tragedy is that billionaires exploit people by using them against each other, a tale as old as time.

Otherwise, what difference does it make to Trump whether Federal workers have a hybrid schedule or not, to him and his donors these people are the cogs in their money making process.


Teachers, doctors, nurses and so many other professionals have to go into work every day. Why should you all get to ‘work from home’ for years?


My doctor DH works from home a couple days a week.



+1 my sister is a nurse and works part time from home 3 days a week. It’s called telemedicine
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 04:16     Subject: Re:DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
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Anonymous wrote:Help me follow the logic of anti-telework folks.
If a small number of people are abusing the system, is the argument everyone should lose the benefit? Or is the argument, my private sector job doesn’t allow telework, so your job shouldn’t either? I’m really trying to understand.


1: they want fed workers to quit
2: they want fed workers to quit
3: they want fed workers to quit
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 04:13     Subject: DHS ends teleworking, requires employees to work in person
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is all bluster for headlines.


I don't think so. At this point if you wanted to actively harm the US, you wouldn't have done much differently.


The point is for you to quit. And eventually for DOGE designed AI to do your job.