Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 09:33     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not entirely opposed to return to work, but there needs to be some limit on how far you have to travel. Our office moved way out to Maryland, so via public transportation it would take 1.5 to 2 hours to get there.


Your proposal would just incentivize everyone to live far away.


You can grandfather people in. You're not incentivizing it if it's a move someone made a year ago -- or in this case, if they didn't even move, the agency did.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 09:30     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:I'm not entirely opposed to return to work, but there needs to be some limit on how far you have to travel. Our office moved way out to Maryland, so via public transportation it would take 1.5 to 2 hours to get there.


Your proposal would just incentivize everyone to live far away.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 09:26     Subject: Re:RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OPM tomorrow:

"We trust that the Executive Branch knows the difference between remote work and telework, and also that they know that remote workers' duty stations are their homes. As such we interpret this EO to refer to just remote workers, and it requires remote workers to maintain their home duty stations."


My favorite comment


**Don't forget the "full time". Maintain those home duty stations FULL TIME please and thank you.


I don't think home is going to count as this is implemented, and I'm a little worried about how full time will be construed too. Like will situational telework for appointments disappear? What about schedule flexibility? Already got the "hurry up and wait" email from my SES, we just don't know yet.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 09:08     Subject: RTO EO is up
We are already at 5 office days per PP and just went through extensive remodeling to install hoteling workstations and an elaborate ticketing system to use them. A third of our staff are IPAs in any case. No idea how this will all play out.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 09:04     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone have any insight on what’s going to happen at FDA?


Which center? Nothing from CDER but we are already in the office 2x per PP.


We don’t even have an acting commissioner yet so who knows.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 09:03     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:Anyone have any insight on what’s going to happen at FDA?

FDA doesn’t even have an acting commissioner yet, as far as anyone knows.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 08:54     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:Anyone have any insight on what’s going to happen at FDA?


Which center? Nothing from CDER but we are already in the office 2x per PP.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 08:38     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anyone have any insight on what’s going to happen at FDA?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 08:33     Subject: RTO EO is up
I've got nothing in my inbox. Given my office is gone, they're going to have to give instructions.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 08:33     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:I'm not entirely opposed to return to work, but there needs to be some limit on how far you have to travel. Our office moved way out to Maryland, so via public transportation it would take 1.5 to 2 hours to get there.


So…
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 08:30     Subject: RTO EO is up
I'm not entirely opposed to return to work, but there needs to be some limit on how far you have to travel. Our office moved way out to Maryland, so via public transportation it would take 1.5 to 2 hours to get there.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 08:27     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:Could it be that Trump does understand this EO is toothless and nothing willl change for federal employees? Could it be that Trump isn’t as monstrous as some say? He’s obviously a terrible human being but maybe not a terrible president. We can hope…


I mean he could always rewrite another one if this one doesn’t accomplish what was intended.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 08:16     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It clearly also applies to telework. How else do you interpret "employees to return to work in-person at their respective duty stations on a full-time basis"?


Does it? It seems like they got the wording wrong and half-assed this one.


I don't think they got the wording wrong. I think "remote work" has a a more negative connotation with the MAGA base, and it was used deliberately. What that means for teleworkers, who knows. Based on this wording, I don't see my preferred flexibility - situational telework - going away. I'll go in five days no problem as long as I have the flexibility on either end of the day to telework for an hour or so.


It seems the EO was written for the MAGA base but does not actually use the terminology that the federal government uses.

This is both probably true, and definitely irrelevant.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 08:10     Subject: Re:RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think GSA has the bandwidth to get all the additional office space needed and most agencies can’t get their own leases.


And if they need to lease space, they have to go through competitive bidding, which takes a while.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 07:21     Subject: Re:RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OPM tomorrow:

"We trust that the Executive Branch knows the difference between remote work and telework, and also that they know that remote workers' duty stations are their homes. As such we interpret this EO to refer to just remote workers, and it requires remote workers to maintain their home duty stations."


My favorite comment


**Don't forget the "full time". Maintain those home duty stations FULL TIME please and thank you.