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Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.

Leagues ahead? I don't know about that.
Brown is sort of having a moment right now. This gen Z crowd seems to really like what brown has to offer.
I don't know if it will accelerate, or die off, but right now brown is very popular among the same crowd that might have been attracted to yale a generation ago.

I thought requiring test scores would hurt brown among that crowd but it doesn't seem to have hurt them.

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Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.

Leagues ahead? I don't know about that.
Brown is sort of having a moment right now. This gen Z crowd seems to really like what brown has to offer.
I don't know if it will accelerate, or die off, but right now brown is very popular among the same crowd that might have been attracted to yale a generation ago.

I thought requiring test scores would hurt brown among that crowd but it doesn't seem to have hurt them.

Brown is seen as a bit of an off-ramp compared to the more overt competitiveness of some other Ivies, but Brown parents are the ultimate try-hards.

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Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.

Leagues ahead? I don't know about that.
Brown is sort of having a moment right now. This gen Z crowd seems to really like what brown has to offer.
I don't know if it will accelerate, or die off, but right now brown is very popular among the same crowd that might have been attracted to yale a generation ago.

I thought requiring test scores would hurt brown among that crowd but it doesn't seem to have hurt them.

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Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.

NP. Mine chose Brown over Yale.

Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.

Anonymous wrote:Any thoughts on Brown engineering, both the program[s] and outcomes?

Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.

Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown is having a moment, and I honestly think it's moving up. Rankings will take a long time to indicate this (things move very slowly on that front), but perception is trending upward now, and that is the predictor. Their choice to eliminate TO first among the Ivies will only help that, because it hurts the old "easy Ivy" reputation. While I know lots of kids shotgun the Ivies, the kid that truly wants and will succeed at Brown is different than those who want and will succeed at the others, and the AOs do look for it.

I don’t know about “moving up,” but Brown is the only Ivy either of my kids was/is interested in. Both found the open curriculum, high-achieving-but-non-competitive culture, and location unique/appealing. I really think the location piece is underrated—a true campus in the middle of a charming city is pretty unusual.

Agree with all of this. Top notch academics with collaborative culture, friendly atmosphere, STEM+arts. I also love Providence, and that the campus is a campus. Wish the Blue Room was open in afternoon or there was a coffee place with comfy seating, but that's about it. Amazing experiences with professors and students. Great FA. Very happy.

Great FA? Then your kid definitely did not get accepted to HPSM. Brown's financial aid is horrible compared to other peer schools. They say they don't consider home equity, but they must use a very different formula than the more generous schools (that also don't consider home equity). My DC really loved Brown, but couldn't turn down HYP. Financial aid at Brown was also terrible. Would've had to pay nearly 20k more.

They don't consider home equity. FA is different for different folks. Brown was same COA as another Ivy and less than another T10. Oddly, Wesleyan gave us phenomenal aid.

Friend's kid got into Yale and Columbia, and Yale was significantly more. That kid wanted Brown but did not get accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown just seems cooler than most of the other Ivies (my unhooked kid was accepted ED). Penn is huge, full of strivers, and at the admissions visit they described the school as a "mid-sized Ivy League school" 15x. Harvard and Princeton are ultra-elitist, and really play that up; Yale to a lesser extent. Dartmouth is a rural LAC with a huge Greek system, and Cornell is as big as a state school and very pre-professional. Of course half of HYP kids end up at soul-killing lucrative jobs in finance and consulting; there's a ton of peer pressure to do that sort of thing. Brown seems elite but not elitist, and far fewer students feel forced into finance, cs, consulting and so on. Above all, it just seems like a school that knows what it is and is comfortable being what it is: it is not trying to be Harvard or Princeton, and it doesn't play up its status as an Ivy league institution. The kids seem happy and love being there. Only Yale seems to have a little bit of the same feel, though it is more exclusive and elitist.

My DD chose Brown over Yale last year for these reasons. She loves it and knows she made the right choice.

Sounds awfully self-serving since the “reasons” are neither compelling nor well articulated. Few students would turn down Yale for Brown.

Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.