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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.

College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.

So NWSL academies starting any day now?

Avg NWSL salary is about $65k and avg MLS salary is about $500k.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy

Yeah, so US Soccer just quit on the idea of funding an NWSL and threw a small fake bone at a second tier league to pretend to partner with MLSN.

Women are an afterthought for US Soccer and girls don't exist to US Soccer. Just look at the DA fiasco.

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.

College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.

So NWSL academies starting any day now?

Avg NWSL salary is about $65k and avg MLS salary is about $500k.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/mls-next-announces-strategic-alliance-with-girls-academy

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Anonymous wrote:I think the point shes making is that when your recruiting for 1st year college players it might be bennificial to see those kids play agaist kids that are competing for the same spots. Those older players may look OK vs younger players but dont last 12 months vs 5 years older players they will face the first year in college.

They're not competing for college roster spots against players their same age or biological size.

Other countries are catching up and even on the girls side top college teams have a large number of international Academy players. This will only increase over time.

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.

College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.

So NWSL academies starting any day now?

Avg NWSL salary is about $65k and avg MLS salary is about $500k.

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.

College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

You have no clue.

I just cant.

Anonymous wrote:I think the point shes making is that when your recruiting for 1st year college players it might be bennificial to see those kids play agaist kids that are competing for the same spots. Those older players may look OK vs younger players but dont last 12 months vs 5 years older players they will face the first year in college.

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.

College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.

College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

RAE lines up with college grades?

Tell us how you don't know the meaning of RAE

Anonymous wrote:GA has now pinned the announcement on their announcement with MLS Next. That’s pretty significant. They didn’t even pin their US Soccer sanction.

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Anonymous wrote:what does this all mean?

It’s all speculation right now.
Possibilities:

1 - GA can become the pathway to the pros like MLS Next is to MLS

2 - MLS Next tells clubs with ecnl girls/mls next boys to switch the girls to GA if they want to keep mls next

3 - GA/MLS Next combined showcases where recruiters can watch both in one place.

On any given girls ECNL team, how many families do you think are aiming for the pros vs aiming for college? I'd be shocked if it was more than a fraction of 1% aiming to skip college for pros

If a GA team with a path to pro has 15 of the best players in the state, 1 goes pro….where do you think the others go??? Ding ding ding….college.

It’s not just a pathway to the pros. Think a little

Yes but is the program focused on the pros or college? If not focused on college then those girls go ECNL. College cannot be the afterthought.

So how do you explain mls next? There focus is not college but yet still putting more kids in D1 programs then ECNL.

MLSN has many more going pro than ECNL. The pro path on the girls side isn't big enough for coattails.

Think about it this way...

If you were a college coach would you want a player that's on an Academy team playing with pro pipeline players. Or would you want players from another league.

Most college coaches would choose Academy / pro pipeline players over those from XYZ league.

This is what's happening on the boys side and will soon come to the girls.

College coaches want players from the top league where the RAE lines up with college grades so scouting is more clear (Aug-July). (The main reason US Soccer wanted birth year a decade ago.)

NWSL Next is a myth until someone ponies up $5 or 10 or 15 million a year or the players can be sold to recover costs like MLSN. So not soon.

Bigger chance of MLSN going belly up than NWSL starting.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put things into perspective here.

Let’s look at SD Surf. Great ECNL program on the boys and girls side. Dominant.

New MLS club down the road, SD FC. Surely they will have a SD FC academy that plays in MLS Next. Guess where SD Surfs best boys will go?

Now, what if MLS Next says hey SD Surf..you can keep all your kids if you go MLS Next/GA.
Oh and by the way, If the girls go GA, that will be the feeder team to SD Wave.

See how that works

Except is does not because most of the girls on Surf are not going to want to go to SD Wave or pro anywhere. SD Surf has a Sophie's choice. Lose the boys or lose the girls. Same as Arlington. They can't go MLSN. Hurts their boys program. They made the choice to stay top on the girls' side. That is the same choice 90% of clubs would make.

Pathway to the pros is not a selling point on the girls side. It is college placement. In your example you would be offering nothing because their top girls that want to go pro already have a pathway.

Because it hasn’t been an option in the past. When DA was around they had it all wrong.

Why would one turn down
a chance to play on a pro academy
A chance to play against top teams and international academies
A chance to go pro
A chance to still go to college if you don’t want to go pro
You still get to play high school

Women’s soccer is growing at a fast rate.

Because they do not want to play pro --- sure if they were at the top but you are talking about a handful of girls each year. Not enough for a team. Your best point (for me) is -- a chance to still go to college if you don't want to go pro -- they do not want a chance to still go. They want to go. Almost every ECNL girl gets recruited. There is no still a chance involved.

I believe 100% of an NWSL academy team would go pro or go to college.

You are talking about potentially the best girls in each state playing for a singular team. The pathway to college is still there. Not sure what you are getting at.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what I've learned today: if I'm associated with in10sity or Valor or Achilles or Revolution or Bethesda the Samba Boyz or any other maligned club on here, the next time I see a negative thread start up I'm starting one re: MLS Next v. ECNL, or ECNL v. GA. You all eat that up. For what it's worth (not much), my son plays in MLS Next and its not because anybody thinks he's going to be a pro. It's because it's the league with the highest competition. There doesn't have to be an endgame. And I'm sure the same will be true of the girls. Once the competition level in another league is higher than ECNL, the kids and coaches will follow.

How is another league going to pass ECNL?