Anonymous
12/12/2024 17:05
Subject: Andover matriculation
A lot of posters here don't seem to grasp that $300k or $400k is not that much money to a lot of people. A Jeep Wrangler Rubicon is $100,000. "Normal" houses in upscale neighboorhoods are $3million or more. Bonus packages at a lot of companies with $250k a year salaried employee are more than $150k. This isn't even top level employees.
Factor in the rich Asians and other internationals. There is much more demand for a $90k private school than supply.
UChicago has had a lot written about it concerning its structural deficit so taking a lot of private school students is smart. Not all will be wealthy but some will be.
Factor in the rich Asians and other internationals. There is much more demand for a $90k private school than supply.
UChicago has had a lot written about it concerning its structural deficit so taking a lot of private school students is smart. Not all will be wealthy but some will be.
Anonymous
12/12/2024 16:46
Subject: Andover matriculation
My son is at u Chicago from DMV, lots of his classmates are super smart kids from NYC private schools, lots of kids from boarding schools.
Anonymous
12/12/2024 16:03
Subject: Andover matriculation
Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth is very insecure about being the "safety Ivy". They care a lot about fit - I imagine it would be hard to convince them without an ED if you're from an Ivy feeder like AndoverAnonymous wrote:Interesting that they send 10 or more to each of Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Brown, and Chicago but only 3 to Dartmouth. I would have expected more there.
I guess you could call Dartmouth a "safety ivy" but you could say the same thing about Cornell, Brown, and Penn. All those schools have about 50% non-ED yield compared to 70%-85% HYP.
Agree that Dartmouth cares about fit a lot. Probably makes sense because it is different being small and remote. They want students to want that.
Anonymous
12/12/2024 14:45
Subject: Andover matriculation
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Schools with 3 or more matriculations:
University of Chicago 21
Harvard University 12
Yale University 12
Stanford University 11
Boston University 10
Brown University 10
Northeastern University 10
Columbia University 8
Georgetown University 8
New York University 8
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 7
Northwestern University 7
University of Pennsylvania 7
University of Virginia 7
Cornell University 6
University of Massachusetts, Amherst 6
Boston College 5
Carnegie Mellon University 5
Villanova University 5
Williams College 5
Emory University 4
Tufts University 4
Tulane University 4
The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 4
University of St. Andrews 4
Wellesley College 4
Wesleyan University 4
Amherst College 3
Babson College 3
Bates College 3
Bowdoin College 3
Colby College 3
Colgate University 3
College of the Holy Cross 3
Colorado College 3
Dartmouth College 3
McGill University 3
Middlebury College 3
Princeton University 3
Rutgers University 3
Skidmore College 3
Southern Methodist University 3
The University of Texas at Austin 3
United States Naval Academy 3
University of California, San Diego 3
University of Michigan 3
University of Southern California 3
University of Wisconsin, Madison 3
Vanderbilt University 3
Washington University, St. Louis 3
What does a higher number of Martriculates say about the school, popularity? Or easy admissions? UChicago is suspect to me.
Someone posted that the average SAT at Andover is something like 1450. Since they have so many high achieving students on scholarship (not wealthy) it is easy for the top schools to select students. It's not like Andover has only been around for a few years. Admissions officers know the quality of the curriculum and how Andover students perform. So that and a combination of very wealthy/legacy/donor/ high achievers provides a perfect recipe to accept so many of its graduates.
That's lower than expected. There's quite a few public magnet high school with similar SATS, and expected Andover to be in the 1500s.
Andover has a student body with more of an academic range than you would think. A public magnet is going to take kids on scores alone.
Anonymous
12/12/2024 14:21
Subject: Andover matriculation
Anonymous wrote:They aren't top schools - if you're willing to pay OOS COA, you might as well go to a cushier private.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://d2e3a5v56wj8r4.cloudfront.net/files/SchoolProfile2023-2024.pdf
Was surprised Virginia Tech wasn't anywhere and that SMU and Tulane were on the 3 year list.
Only 1 to Cal Tech and none to Harvey Mudd is more disappointing than none to Virginia Tech. The students looking at STEM aren’t focused on SMU or Tulane …Virgina Tech is likely a safety for the 7 going to MIT
There are geographic reasons at play. There is a definite bias towards east coast schools, except for Stanford and UChicago. Very few to Berkeley, UCLA, etc.
So why no Virginia Tech & UMD?
UMD is a top school for computer science. Maybe there aren't that many Andover graduates who are interested in computer science or they would rather go to a more "prestigious" named university.
Anonymous
12/12/2024 14:20
Subject: Andover matriculation
UChicago is need blind. Andover basically collects bright students from across the US - if anything the numbers are a bit low given that fact.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Schools with 3 or more matriculations:
University of Chicago 21
Harvard University 12
Yale University 12
Stanford University 11
Boston University 10
Brown University 10
Northeastern University 10
Columbia University 8
Georgetown University 8
New York University 8
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 7
Northwestern University 7
University of Pennsylvania 7
University of Virginia 7
Cornell University 6
University of Massachusetts, Amherst 6
Boston College 5
Carnegie Mellon University 5
Villanova University 5
Williams College 5
Emory University 4
Tufts University 4
Tulane University 4
The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 4
University of St. Andrews 4
Wellesley College 4
Wesleyan University 4
Amherst College 3
Babson College 3
Bates College 3
Bowdoin College 3
Colby College 3
Colgate University 3
College of the Holy Cross 3
Colorado College 3
Dartmouth College 3
McGill University 3
Middlebury College 3
Princeton University 3
Rutgers University 3
Skidmore College 3
Southern Methodist University 3
The University of Texas at Austin 3
United States Naval Academy 3
University of California, San Diego 3
University of Michigan 3
University of Southern California 3
University of Wisconsin, Madison 3
Vanderbilt University 3
Washington University, St. Louis 3
Chicago seems to be going all in on wealthy private schools kids. It's a definite change from their historical norm, which is bright students from all backgrounds. And if you're going to spend $300,000 on high school, it seems a little pathetic to spend another $400,000 on BU, NYU, or Northeastern. It's an impressive list of college destinations regardless, but still... This is money talking, not talent.
Anonymous
12/12/2024 14:19
Subject: Andover matriculation
Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're more generous with merit aidAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots to UVA. LOTS. None to Maryland.
Lol
This is interesting. I wonder why literally zero. Not even one.
Because UVA is nationally recognized as a prestigious university and Maryland isn’t, no matter what the naysayers on the board have to say.
But why are there people going to Penn State, FSU, Rutgers, Purdue? Surely UMD College Park is on par with these?
One tier: UMD College Park, Purdue, FSU
A second tier: Rutgers
A third tier: Penn State
Anonymous
12/12/2024 14:18
Subject: Andover matriculation
They aren't top schools - if you're willing to pay OOS COA, you might as well go to a cushier private.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://d2e3a5v56wj8r4.cloudfront.net/files/SchoolProfile2023-2024.pdf
Was surprised Virginia Tech wasn't anywhere and that SMU and Tulane were on the 3 year list.
Only 1 to Cal Tech and none to Harvey Mudd is more disappointing than none to Virginia Tech. The students looking at STEM aren’t focused on SMU or Tulane …Virgina Tech is likely a safety for the 7 going to MIT
There are geographic reasons at play. There is a definite bias towards east coast schools, except for Stanford and UChicago. Very few to Berkeley, UCLA, etc.
So why no Virginia Tech & UMD?
Anonymous
12/12/2024 14:17
Subject: Andover matriculation
Maybe they're more generous with merit aidAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots to UVA. LOTS. None to Maryland.
Lol
This is interesting. I wonder why literally zero. Not even one.
Because UVA is nationally recognized as a prestigious university and Maryland isn’t, no matter what the naysayers on the board have to say.
But why are there people going to Penn State, FSU, Rutgers, Purdue? Surely UMD College Park is on par with these?
Anonymous
12/12/2024 14:15
Subject: Andover matriculation
Dartmouth is very insecure about being the "safety Ivy". They care a lot about fit - I imagine it would be hard to convince them without an ED if you're from an Ivy feeder like AndoverAnonymous wrote:Interesting that they send 10 or more to each of Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Brown, and Chicago but only 3 to Dartmouth. I would have expected more there.