Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 11:21     Subject: Re:Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Per that NYT article on DOGE, Joni Ernst who is working with them is thinking that to save money the government should just allow WFH and to end the government leases. This actually sounds like something that would save the government money while retaining efficiency.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 10:13     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:DOGE has no authority or even any experience in government. They literally know sh*t about it.


Its true - but that doesn't mean they won't come in like a bull in a china shop. The question is - will Trump do what they recommend? We've heard a lot from Musk but I don't see much from Trump on this issue unless I've missed it.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 10:11     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:RTO is over for gov employees.

And it WILL be used as pressure so get ready to be in the office, or looking for new employment.


RTO is over? You mean telework is over?

Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 10:06     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
DOGE has no authority or even any experience in government. They literally know sh*t about it.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 09:58     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
RTO is over for gov employees.

And it WILL be used as pressure so get ready to be in the office, or looking for new employment.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 08:53     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:I think the cat is out of the bag and it will be difficult to get employees back.

Management doesn’t want to return and I don’t think people will comply. It’s already acceptable at my agency to leave early to finish up work at home. Almost everyone does this. It’s about badge swipes which tells you it isn’t necessary to work from the office.


Every bldg is different though. We swipe in and out so an audit could determine whether we are in the office for the hours we are expected to be there. Our managers might think it’s dumb if it’s a total RTO but I don’t think they could prevent an audit which would be an easy way to get rid of people.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 06:07     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
I think the cat is out of the bag and it will be difficult to get employees back.

Management doesn’t want to return and I don’t think people will comply. It’s already acceptable at my agency to leave early to finish up work at home. Almost everyone does this. It’s about badge swipes which tells you it isn’t necessary to work from the office.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 04:07     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
We still have people under CSRS at my office. Really, it’s time to go.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 00:45     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just focus on senior folks that are barely performing and push them out of the door. They are the most expensive and least productive.


Yes, but they're always quick to scream age discrimination. They know they won't be able to get a different job.


I mean after a while they should be judged on their performance. Every agency has more than 1/3rd folks as seniors that shouldn't be there and it looks like a welfare to me.


You're right, but who are those seniors' bosses? Other old people.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 23:20     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just focus on senior folks that are barely performing and push them out of the door. They are the most expensive and least productive.


Yes, but they're always quick to scream age discrimination. They know they won't be able to get a different job.


I mean after a while they should be judged on their performance. Every agency has more than 1/3rd folks as seniors that shouldn't be there and it looks like a welfare to me.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 23:04     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am fully remote but fully expect that to change. Yes, I understand that some of us work the entire 8 hours or more, but realistically, most people work less when they work from home. I think it’s disingenuous not to concede that point. I’m not looking forward to RTO but I can concede that if I was in management, I’d want people in the office. We had a longer run post pandemic than most and I’m grateful that I had this brief period in life of remote but it’s a privilege that I never expected to go on indefinitely.


I disagree that most people work less when they are home. I don’t think that js true at all - for some yes, but not most.


I disagree also. People either have stuff to do or they don’t - in or out of the office and are accountable to get it done. If they have a ton of time to goof off at home they were probably twiddling thumbs in the office also.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 22:27     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is that low performers are also very effective at seeking and obtaining exceptions and special accommodations to everything, and they’ll do so with RTO too. And the best employees will be stuck playing by the rules.

Ironic, isn’t it?


Yes. I will come to work and follow the rules. I won’t be happy and highly doubt my productivity will go up. I don’t live near metro so have to drive. Parking costs alone will kill me. Ugh.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 22:17     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:I am fully remote but fully expect that to change. Yes, I understand that some of us work the entire 8 hours or more, but realistically, most people work less when they work from home. I think it’s disingenuous not to concede that point. I’m not looking forward to RTO but I can concede that if I was in management, I’d want people in the office. We had a longer run post pandemic than most and I’m grateful that I had this brief period in life of remote but it’s a privilege that I never expected to go on indefinitely.


I disagree that most people work less when they are home. I don’t think that js true at all - for some yes, but not most.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 22:15     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just focus on senior folks that are barely performing and push them out of the door. They are the most expensive and least productive.


Yes, but they're always quick to scream age discrimination. They know they won't be able to get a different job.


I like my current job just fine. Thank you.


I'm sure you do, just as I'm sure your manager is hoping you retire.


Funny. I AM the manager. Try again kid.


Old managers end up being the worst. In theory it's easy to remove them from management, but some will scream bloody murder. And the people you want in management are rarely the ones lining up for the position.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 18:10     Subject: Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just focus on senior folks that are barely performing and push them out of the door. They are the most expensive and least productive.


Yes, but they're always quick to scream age discrimination. They know they won't be able to get a different job.


I like my current job just fine. Thank you.


I'm sure you do, just as I'm sure your manager is hoping you retire.


Funny. I AM the manager. Try again kid.