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Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the healthcare. It’s the sororities too, the whole ethos. If you took the same girl and sent her to BU or anyplace else not in the South it is much more likely she would be launched on a successful career path.

This poster has no idea. Try to visit, it is eye-opening. The school is impressive and the opportunities amazing. All kinds of kids, with an energetic and happy vibe, not angry or tense like many northern schools.

Curious to know what's eye-opening and about the amazing opportunities. Thanks.

For DD, it was access to labs and research. Alabama is a very wealthy R1 university and undergrads get great experience — DD is running her lab, reporting to the professor and is a TA. Her name will be high up on a publication, she has presented at conferences and has a job offer. Pre med, labs and clinical are easy to get — Alabama placed 100% of its pre med program in med school, many in top programs. The thing is, the Blount and Randall kids support each other and tell each other about labs and opportunities. There’s no elbowing or backstabbing for these jobs like there is at other schools (eg Michigan).

If you are in even considering — visit. I guarantee the naysayers have never been here. I’m down here now for homecoming, and Alabama is not the predominant license plate. I am still in awe at the energy and pride of this place.

It is not a very wealthy college…actually has a minimal endowment compared to other more prominent flagships.

They likely are comfortable borrowing heavily as their $1.2BN endowment isn’t paying for the new facilities.

They aren’t going bust so probably not a great concern.

Wrong. They are an extremely wealthy university and very well-managed. Unlike WVU, Alabama did not take loans. Their endowment is healthy, but they don’t hoard and have a very loyal and generous alumni along with 100s of millions from SEC sports. Look into it.

You are arguing against facts. A $1.2BN endowment pales against UT, UC schools, Michigan, UVA, UNC, etc. and of course nothing against the top private schools.

SEC sports revenue just helps the athletic department break even…again, a verifiable fact that shows inflows and outflows.

Nope. It doesn’t appear you know much about this school. It is very financially healthy. They pay their professors well, are well capitalized and well-managed. UVA had significant financial problems and pay professors poorly. I don’t know about the others, but UMD is known to be poorly managed and Michigan just spent $250 million on DEI. Whereas Alabama has spent wisely and attracts considerable research money, professor talent and labs are well funded.

Nope what? Again…I provided facts and you provided opinion and nonsense.

Michigan’s endowment is nearly 20x Alabama. $250MM spent on DEI over several years is a rounding error. Their professors are doing just fine and their research labs aren’t hurting for funding either.

UVA’s endowment is 14x larger…UT’s 40x larger.

Nobody is saying the school is financially troubled, but it’s not a school with lots of endowment to tap nor is it a “wealthy” school.

To be fair, some of your statements are also opinions. Opinions: appears to be a rounding error, professors are doing fine, research labs aren't hurting.....

Fair point…but endowments, sports revenue (and expenses) and basically all other financial metrics are public.

The school has a niche attracting OOS UMC kids where parents want a free ride. Alabama doesn’t have the luxury that UNC, UVA, UC and UT have that can limit OOS to very low percentages. Clearly they don’t receive enough qualified in-state applications as the overall acceptance rate is very high.

That’s not really true. Auburn is the “Alabama” school, much higher percentage of in-state kids there and they are “qualified”. University of Alabama has a different focus and it’s intentional. They want the R1 money and they have gotten that by being attractive to professors and courting the high stats out of state kids. Not all these kids are there only for the scholarships, although they all receive them. As a PP mentioned, the school caters to these kids in the special programs like Blount and the opportunities and grad placements are amazing.

My quirky creative NMSF applied to Alabama and the Blount Scholars program. Seems like a great option for him.

https://blount.as.ua.edu/

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the healthcare. It’s the sororities too, the whole ethos. If you took the same girl and sent her to BU or anyplace else not in the South it is much more likely she would be launched on a successful career path.

This poster has no idea. Try to visit, it is eye-opening. The school is impressive and the opportunities amazing. All kinds of kids, with an energetic and happy vibe, not angry or tense like many northern schools.

Curious to know what's eye-opening and about the amazing opportunities. Thanks.

For DD, it was access to labs and research. Alabama is a very wealthy R1 university and undergrads get great experience — DD is running her lab, reporting to the professor and is a TA. Her name will be high up on a publication, she has presented at conferences and has a job offer. Pre med, labs and clinical are easy to get — Alabama placed 100% of its pre med program in med school, many in top programs. The thing is, the Blount and Randall kids support each other and tell each other about labs and opportunities. There’s no elbowing or backstabbing for these jobs like there is at other schools (eg Michigan).

If you are in even considering — visit. I guarantee the naysayers have never been here. I’m down here now for homecoming, and Alabama is not the predominant license plate. I am still in awe at the energy and pride of this place.

It is not a very wealthy college…actually has a minimal endowment compared to other more prominent flagships.

They likely are comfortable borrowing heavily as their $1.2BN endowment isn’t paying for the new facilities.

They aren’t going bust so probably not a great concern.

Wrong. They are an extremely wealthy university and very well-managed. Unlike WVU, Alabama did not take loans. Their endowment is healthy, but they don’t hoard and have a very loyal and generous alumni along with 100s of millions from SEC sports. Look into it.

You are arguing against facts. A $1.2BN endowment pales against UT, UC schools, Michigan, UVA, UNC, etc. and of course nothing against the top private schools.

SEC sports revenue just helps the athletic department break even…again, a verifiable fact that shows inflows and outflows.

Nope. It doesn’t appear you know much about this school. It is very financially healthy. They pay their professors well, are well capitalized and well-managed. UVA had significant financial problems and pay professors poorly. I don’t know about the others, but UMD is known to be poorly managed and Michigan just spent $250 million on DEI. Whereas Alabama has spent wisely and attracts considerable research money, professor talent and labs are well funded.

Nope what? Again…I provided facts and you provided opinion and nonsense.

Michigan’s endowment is nearly 20x Alabama. $250MM spent on DEI over several years is a rounding error. Their professors are doing just fine and their research labs aren’t hurting for funding either.

UVA’s endowment is 14x larger…UT’s 40x larger.

Nobody is saying the school is financially troubled, but it’s not a school with lots of endowment to tap nor is it a “wealthy” school.

To be fair, some of your statements are also opinions. Opinions: appears to be a rounding error, professors are doing fine, research labs aren't hurting.....

Fair point…but endowments, sports revenue (and expenses) and basically all other financial metrics are public.

The school has a niche attracting OOS UMC kids where parents want a free ride. Alabama doesn’t have the luxury that UNC, UVA, UC and UT have that can limit OOS to very low percentages. Clearly they don’t receive enough qualified in-state applications as the overall acceptance rate is very high.

That’s not really true. Auburn is the “Alabama” school, much higher percentage of in-state kids there and they are “qualified”. University of Alabama has a different focus and it’s intentional. They want the R1 money and they have gotten that by being attractive to professors and courting the high stats out of state kids. Not all these kids are there only for the scholarships, although they all receive them. As a PP mentioned, the school caters to these kids in the special programs like Blount and the opportunities and grad placements are amazing.

Only problem with that logic is that Auburn is an R1 university as well...as are UT, UNC, Michigan, UVA, and essentially every major university that anyone knows.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the healthcare. It’s the sororities too, the whole ethos. If you took the same girl and sent her to BU or anyplace else not in the South it is much more likely she would be launched on a successful career path.

This poster has no idea. Try to visit, it is eye-opening. The school is impressive and the opportunities amazing. All kinds of kids, with an energetic and happy vibe, not angry or tense like many northern schools.

Curious to know what's eye-opening and about the amazing opportunities. Thanks.

For DD, it was access to labs and research. Alabama is a very wealthy R1 university and undergrads get great experience — DD is running her lab, reporting to the professor and is a TA. Her name will be high up on a publication, she has presented at conferences and has a job offer. Pre med, labs and clinical are easy to get — Alabama placed 100% of its pre med program in med school, many in top programs. The thing is, the Blount and Randall kids support each other and tell each other about labs and opportunities. There’s no elbowing or backstabbing for these jobs like there is at other schools (eg Michigan).

If you are in even considering — visit. I guarantee the naysayers have never been here. I’m down here now for homecoming, and Alabama is not the predominant license plate. I am still in awe at the energy and pride of this place.

It is not a very wealthy college…actually has a minimal endowment compared to other more prominent flagships.

They likely are comfortable borrowing heavily as their $1.2BN endowment isn’t paying for the new facilities.

They aren’t going bust so probably not a great concern.

Wrong. They are an extremely wealthy university and very well-managed. Unlike WVU, Alabama did not take loans. Their endowment is healthy, but they don’t hoard and have a very loyal and generous alumni along with 100s of millions from SEC sports. Look into it.

You are arguing against facts. A $1.2BN endowment pales against UT, UC schools, Michigan, UVA, UNC, etc. and of course nothing against the top private schools.

SEC sports revenue just helps the athletic department break even…again, a verifiable fact that shows inflows and outflows.

Nope. It doesn’t appear you know much about this school. It is very financially healthy. They pay their professors well, are well capitalized and well-managed. UVA had significant financial problems and pay professors poorly. I don’t know about the others, but UMD is known to be poorly managed and Michigan just spent $250 million on DEI. Whereas Alabama has spent wisely and attracts considerable research money, professor talent and labs are well funded.

Nope what? Again…I provided facts and you provided opinion and nonsense.

Michigan’s endowment is nearly 20x Alabama. $250MM spent on DEI over several years is a rounding error. Their professors are doing just fine and their research labs aren’t hurting for funding either.

UVA’s endowment is 14x larger…UT’s 40x larger.

Nobody is saying the school is financially troubled, but it’s not a school with lots of endowment to tap nor is it a “wealthy” school.

To be fair, some of your statements are also opinions. Opinions: appears to be a rounding error, professors are doing fine, research labs aren't hurting.....

Fair point…but endowments, sports revenue (and expenses) and basically all other financial metrics are public.

The school has a niche attracting OOS UMC kids where parents want a free ride. Alabama doesn’t have the luxury that UNC, UVA, UC and UT have that can limit OOS to very low percentages. Clearly they don’t receive enough qualified in-state applications as the overall acceptance rate is very high.

That’s not really true. Auburn is the “Alabama” school, much higher percentage of in-state kids there and they are “qualified”. University of Alabama has a different focus and it’s intentional. They want the R1 money and they have gotten that by being attractive to professors and courting the high stats out of state kids. Not all these kids are there only for the scholarships, although they all receive them. As a PP mentioned, the school caters to these kids in the special programs like Blount and the opportunities and grad placements are amazing.

Everyone I know from this area at Alabama is there for either the money or they were intentionally seeking southern greek life. Everyone falls into one of those two categories. Not a single person went because "it’s such a great school."

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Anonymous wrote:But then you have to live in Alabama. Alabama.

I know someone who sent their kid there. No debt and in med school.
They also have had the happiest experience with nice kids. The southern kids are happy. I don’t know if it is the sun or they have parents who are not all about politics all day but you do you. No way I would want to send a kid to NYC now so hate away.

As a Southerner, it's always weird to see people on DCUM treat us like we're the simple, happy island folk of some place they went on vacation. Some kids in the South are happy, some aren't, the same as anywhere else. We're just people, and we don't need either your fetishization or for you to send your kids here on some kind of field trip to see how the other half lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m interested in hearing more (not op) and appreciate the actual experience feedback. How is recruiting reaching/after graduation? Is this a school/program companies are considering (even) more due to the dedication to attracting the NMS kids? It seems like possibly a great opportunity. Thanks

NO. Alabama is not well represented at top companies nor top grad/professional programs.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is a NMSF with 1580 SAT interested in Univ of Alabama. CS major. Any feedback is appreciated. It will be out of state for us, we are from MD. Her other choice is Pitt. How long do they take to communicate decisions.

Yes you ate stupid to pay OOS for that.

Really just throwing your money in the trash.

Oh dear Oroject 2025 won’t impact your kid no sir eeeee dummy

No one with your literacy issues should be commenting on college admissions.

Anonymous wrote:I’m interested in hearing more (not op) and appreciate the actual experience feedback. How is recruiting reaching/after graduation? Is this a school/program companies are considering (even) more due to the dedication to attracting the NMS kids? It seems like possibly a great opportunity. Thanks

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare aside, I'd never send DD to Alabama out of fear she'd fall in love with and marry someone from...Alabama. Being completely serious.

60% of Alabama is out of state. Graduates don’t stay in Alabama and the University doesn’t want them to. That is the business model. They do want the high stats kids and R1 research money to attract industry to the state and there has been some success in this.

Not going to take the chance. Plus we’d need to visit her there, move in/out, etc. Educarion, healthcare, etc are ranked horribly there.

This is the state that elected George Wallace (“Segregation now. Segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!”) THREE times, most recently in 1983.

Ah, 1983, like last decade, right?

Do you hear yourself? They reelected an open segregationist IN OUR LIFETIME. Can you even imagine? These are the same people who decided that frozen embryos have personhood status.

If you follow this line of reasoning, all
Universities in any red state are unacceptable? You do understand that the popular vote of the state does not determine what is taught or thought at the school right? No one is bringing up Jesse helms when they talk about UNC or Duke.

It is In Florida. Just sayin’ …

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare aside, I'd never send DD to Alabama out of fear she'd fall in love with and marry someone from...Alabama. Being completely serious.

60% of Alabama is out of state. Graduates don’t stay in Alabama and the University doesn’t want them to. That is the business model. They do want the high stats kids and R1 research money to attract industry to the state and there has been some success in this.

Not going to take the chance. Plus we’d need to visit her there, move in/out, etc. Educarion, healthcare, etc are ranked horribly there.

This is the state that elected George Wallace (“Segregation now. Segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!”) THREE times, most recently in 1983.

Ah, 1983, like last decade, right?

Do you hear yourself? They reelected an open segregationist IN OUR LIFETIME. Can you even imagine? These are the same people who decided that frozen embryos have personhood status.

If you follow this line of reasoning, all
Universities in any red state are unacceptable? You do understand that the popular vote of the state does not determine what is taught or thought at the school right? No one is bringing up Jesse helms when they talk about UNC or Duke.