Anonymous wrote:You sound exhausting.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not a troll

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Anonymous wrote:He prob agreed to split the bill bc he realized he didn’t want a second date.

this.

man who goes on many many dates

coz i'm hot and rich

when i want to get in her panties, i always pay 101% even if she insists to split

when i'm feeling ugh, i'm like sure you wanna split it? go right ahead

OP here: yes, I know how men think (assign mental "hotness scores" to women). Your post above confirms I should use the test to figure early on where I stand for him, and not waste my time for being someone's temporary pillow talk

so are you hot or not?

i'm guessing NOT

non-hotties do not do shit tests. it always backfires on them. as the many respondents on this thread have pointed out to you+

rofl

The prior two dates said I was 10 on your stupid redpill grading system. Both paid. This one also appeared drooling. His exW was ugly relative me. I’m a solid “you are pretty attractive “ 8.5 without any makeup on online facial tests; average height and slim. It’s not as much about hotness of a woman but the man himself. Plenty of hot women end up with deadbeat boyfriends and husbands paying for everything and pulling all weight in relationships

DP. So...dates, two of them no less, actually said a number rating to you out loud?

Now we're in "things that never happened" territory as someone above noted.

Leave this material, especially the "drooling," out of the novel or script version of this fiction, OP.

I know it’s hard to believe but both were very vocal at 1st date about this ranking. Presented their theories. I didn’t see them again obviously

Yet you say you used online apps to rate your own face? LOL

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Anonymous wrote:He prob agreed to split the bill bc he realized he didn’t want a second date.

this.

man who goes on many many dates

coz i'm hot and rich

when i want to get in her panties, i always pay 101% even if she insists to split

when i'm feeling ugh, i'm like sure you wanna split it? go right ahead

OP here: yes, I know how men think (assign mental "hotness scores" to women). Your post above confirms I should use the test to figure early on where I stand for him, and not waste my time for being someone's temporary pillow talk

so are you hot or not?

i'm guessing NOT

non-hotties do not do shit tests. it always backfires on them. as the many respondents on this thread have pointed out to you+

rofl

The prior two dates said I was 10 on your stupid redpill grading system. Both paid. This one also appeared drooling. His exW was ugly relative me. I’m a solid “you are pretty attractive “ 8.5 without any makeup on online facial tests; average height and slim. It’s not as much about hotness of a woman but the man himself. Plenty of hot women end up with deadbeat boyfriends and husbands paying for everything and pulling all weight in relationships

DP. So...dates, two of them no less, actually said a number rating to you out loud?

Now we're in "things that never happened" territory as someone above noted.

Leave this material, especially the "drooling," out of the novel or script version of this fiction, OP.

I know it’s hard to believe but both were very vocal at 1st date about this ranking. Presented their theories. I didn’t see them again obviously

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Anonymous wrote:He prob agreed to split the bill bc he realized he didn’t want a second date.

this.

man who goes on many many dates

coz i'm hot and rich

when i want to get in her panties, i always pay 101% even if she insists to split

when i'm feeling ugh, i'm like sure you wanna split it? go right ahead

OP here: yes, I know how men think (assign mental "hotness scores" to women). Your post above confirms I should use the test to figure early on where I stand for him, and not waste my time for being someone's temporary pillow talk

so are you hot or not?

i'm guessing NOT

non-hotties do not do shit tests. it always backfires on them. as the many respondents on this thread have pointed out to you+

rofl

The prior two dates said I was 10 on your stupid redpill grading system. Both paid. This one also appeared drooling. His exW was ugly relative me. I’m a solid “you are pretty attractive “ 8.5 without any makeup on online facial tests; average height and slim. It’s not as much about hotness of a woman but the man himself. Plenty of hot women end up with deadbeat boyfriends and husbands paying for everything and pulling all weight in relationships

DP. So...dates, two of them no less, actually said a number rating to you out loud?

Now we're in "things that never happened" territory as someone above noted.

Leave this material, especially the "drooling," out of the novel or script version of this fiction, OP.

I know it’s hard to believe but both were very vocal at 1st date about this ranking. Presented their theories. I didn’t see them again obviously

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Anonymous wrote:He prob agreed to split the bill bc he realized he didn’t want a second date.

this.

man who goes on many many dates

coz i'm hot and rich

when i want to get in her panties, i always pay 101% even if she insists to split

when i'm feeling ugh, i'm like sure you wanna split it? go right ahead

OP here: yes, I know how men think (assign mental "hotness scores" to women). Your post above confirms I should use the test to figure early on where I stand for him, and not waste my time for being someone's temporary pillow talk

so are you hot or not?

i'm guessing NOT

non-hotties do not do shit tests. it always backfires on them. as the many respondents on this thread have pointed out to you+

rofl

The prior two dates said I was 10 on your stupid redpill grading system. Both paid. This one also appeared drooling. His exW was ugly relative me. I’m a solid “you are pretty attractive “ 8.5 without any makeup on online facial tests; average height and slim. It’s not as much about hotness of a woman but the man himself. Plenty of hot women end up with deadbeat boyfriends and husbands paying for everything and pulling all weight in relationships

DP. So...dates, two of them no less, actually said a number rating to you out loud?

Now we're in "things that never happened" territory as someone above noted.

Leave this material, especially the "drooling," out of the novel or script version of this fiction, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, gold digger "testing" her dates is single - SHOCKER!

Maybe you should be more generous with your expectations. Testing dates is immature and shows a real lack of kindness.

So true about how "tests" are immature. People who create tests in their heads are really are people who have no idea how mature adults communicate.

I don't know that OP is a gold digger since she insists she's got plenty of money. But that accusation is one reason why, years ago, I started a relationship with a man and from the very first minute told him we would split everything. Since we were blunt about the relationship being for sex and fun and nothing more, I didn't want to owe him anything material or monetary. Even if only the two of us knew about it. And the only "testing" we did was STI testing.

No games, no trad "etiquette" like OP wants, and no mind-reading expected!

OP isn’t looking for a boy toy just for sex: don’t you see the difference ?

Oh, I definitely see the difference, PP. I'm saying that our morally "bad" relationship for, gasp, sex, at least was more honest, up front and actually equitable than OP's attempt at finding a "good" relationship with Mr. Traditional. At least we were always honest with each other about what we expected....

OP here: I met a few men who were not up to pulling off their weight in relationship. And I did offer them FWB arrangements: men always declined claiming it would be "immoral" or "self destructing for them". Men want to have cake and eat it, too, by having a woman take care of everything. When a woman goes "I just want you for sex" they quickly call her immoral.

Men who would turn down FWB as immoral should be the upstanding men you claim you're seeking....shouldn't they? Oh, right they "were not up to pulling off their weight in relationship." Whatever that means. Maybe it only means "They won't pay for the first date like I telepathically told them to do."

You're a contradictory hoot, for sure.

And since you're so into proper etiquette, what does Miss Manners say is the correct way to offer FWB? Do share.

They didn’t pull weight in maintaining proper continuous communication, listening, planing dates ahead of time etc. Yes one would also run up the bill and expect to pay.
On FWB I didn’t call it that way specifically but just said I wouldn’t mind seeing them only for sex if they don’t have bandwidth to build a relationship. Both thought there were amazing and more than worthy of my time, and got really mad when I offered to meet once a week instead of a few times. I don’t have time for mediocre dates. It doesn’t need to be eating out or Ritz at all but rather thoughtful planning. Jazz events, interesting hikes, exhibits etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, gold digger "testing" her dates is single - SHOCKER!

Maybe you should be more generous with your expectations. Testing dates is immature and shows a real lack of kindness.

So true about how "tests" are immature. People who create tests in their heads are really are people who have no idea how mature adults communicate.

I don't know that OP is a gold digger since she insists she's got plenty of money. But that accusation is one reason why, years ago, I started a relationship with a man and from the very first minute told him we would split everything. Since we were blunt about the relationship being for sex and fun and nothing more, I didn't want to owe him anything material or monetary. Even if only the two of us knew about it. And the only "testing" we did was STI testing.

No games, no trad "etiquette" like OP wants, and no mind-reading expected!

OP isn’t looking for a boy toy just for sex: don’t you see the difference ?

Oh, I definitely see the difference, PP. I'm saying that our morally "bad" relationship for, gasp, sex, at least was more honest, up front and actually equitable than OP's attempt at finding a "good" relationship with Mr. Traditional. At least we were always honest with each other about what we expected....

OP here: I met a few men who were not up to pulling off their weight in relationship. And I did offer them FWB arrangements: men always declined claiming it would be "immoral" or "self destructing for them". Men want to have cake and eat it, too, by having a woman take care of everything. When a woman goes "I just want you for sex" they quickly call her immoral.

Men who would turn down FWB as immoral should be the upstanding men you claim you're seeking....shouldn't they? Oh, right they "were not up to pulling off their weight in relationship." Whatever that means. Maybe it only means "They won't pay for the first date like I telepathically told them to do."

You're a contradictory hoot, for sure.

And since you're so into proper etiquette, what does Miss Manners say is the correct way to offer FWB? Do share.

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Anonymous wrote:He prob agreed to split the bill bc he realized he didn’t want a second date.

this.

man who goes on many many dates

coz i'm hot and rich

when i want to get in her panties, i always pay 101% even if she insists to split

when i'm feeling ugh, i'm like sure you wanna split it? go right ahead

OP here: yes, I know how men think (assign mental "hotness scores" to women). Your post above confirms I should use the test to figure early on where I stand for him, and not waste my time for being someone's temporary pillow talk

so are you hot or not?

i'm guessing NOT

non-hotties do not do shit tests. it always backfires on them. as the many respondents on this thread have pointed out to you+

rofl

The prior two dates said I was 10 on your stupid redpill grading system. Both paid. This one also appeared drooling. His exW was ugly relative me. I’m a solid “you are pretty attractive “ 8.5 without any makeup on online facial tests; average height and slim. It’s not as much about hotness of a woman but the man himself. Plenty of hot women end up with deadbeat boyfriends and husbands paying for everything and pulling all weight in relationships

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Anonymous wrote:You sound exhausting.

+1

This “test “ fails to consider that he is also a person trying to find a good match while making a good first impression.
In todays dating climate, bring a gentleman and following traditional gender norms is not always seen as a plus to women, …and men find themselves forced to navigate this unfamiliar terrain. Does he “insist” and pass your test? Or does he “insist” and look like a Dick?
Or does he just go with the flow and try to read your preference based on your behaviors?
Looks like he chose the latter in good faith, and probably assumed you would t offer if you didn’t want to help pay.

Next time, don’t offer.